The Instigator
Donlatt
Pro (for)
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The Contender
FunkeeMonk91
Con (against)
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30 Points

Liberty is more important than the security of a state

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/6/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Donlatt

Pro

First of all, thank you for accepting this debate.

I will keep the opening argument brief. The topic says it all. I believe liberty is more important than the security of the state.

The debate is set for four rounds, and I wish you the best of luck.
FunkeeMonk91

Con

Hi Donlatt! Let me just say, I agree with your contention, but am playing devil's advocate.

Security needs to be the first priority in any nation. What good is liberty if you aren't safe to enjoy it? People need to be protected by both foreign and domestic threats. Otherwise, we would literally be living in anarchy.
Debate Round No. 1
Donlatt

Pro

Donlatt forfeited this round.
FunkeeMonk91

Con

Oh, cool. Yet another person decides to flake. Seriously probably 20% of all the debates on this website get dumped on because people ditch.
Debate Round No. 2
Donlatt

Pro

Donlatt forfeited this round.
FunkeeMonk91

Con

I win.

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Debate Round No. 3
Donlatt

Pro

Donlatt forfeited this round.
FunkeeMonk91

Con

Donlatt, why did you even start this topic? You ruined a great debate.

Wow, I wish I had 100 characters right now.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by HandsOff 9 years ago
HandsOff
That's a relief. You really had me going there for a minute.
Posted by FunkeeMonk91 9 years ago
FunkeeMonk91
I do not agree with the contention I posted. I was merely debating for the sake of debating.
Posted by HandsOff 9 years ago
HandsOff
FM,
So you do not agree with Ben Franklin that "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Probably just the ramblings of a madman.
Posted by rock022 9 years ago
rock022
Freedom is not free. Howqever to live free by the barrel of a gun... is call slavery.
Posted by FunkeeMonk91 9 years ago
FunkeeMonk91
Yeah, that'd be great. Send me the challenge whenever you are ready.
Posted by mrmatt505 9 years ago
mrmatt505
I will start one like this within the next week or so. I really like the topic. FunkeeMonk91, would you like me to challenge you specifically?
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