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Abrant
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vi_spex
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Life is meaningless

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/5/2016 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 8 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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Abrant

Pro

Life is meaningless, because meanings for things is a human construct and life was around before the human race. This means that life existed before meaning. Meaning would have to exist before life which it would not. Thus life is a random occurance in the universe born of no meaning.
vi_spex

Con

humans dont experience things before they exist.. what meaning does a rock with holes on a beach you have never been to have to you?

meaning is emotional understanding, and life is true

a sunrise can be a joyfull sight, and a light to bright can hurt my eyes
Debate Round No. 1
Abrant

Pro

A rock has no meaning, because it never needed one or had one. Life in general has just as much purpose as a rock and the human race was the effect of probability. That is why we can never find a real meaning behind life. It is because there never was one. Self awareness made humans scramble for a purpose and reason in life and have tried to imagine an afterlife in which we could still exist. When the rock is destroyed, it is done and life in no different.
vi_spex

Con

a rock dosnt experience anything

look directly into the sun for 10 minutes, you might find meaning in that
Debate Round No. 2
Abrant

Pro

Well from your standpoint the "meaning" behind your recent argument is from lashing out from defeat. One does this because to argue someone's beliefs triggers the same chemical reaction in the brain that makes you fight for survival. The fight for survival is the same reason why we create meaning. It is in hopes for a prolonged life cycle in an afterlife which you may as well now know that there is none. Meaning would make the existence of God real which has not been proven to exist with hard evidence.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by vi_spex 7 months ago
vi_spex
apple=real=concept?
Posted by skipsaweirdo 7 months ago
skipsaweirdo
You can't pick an apple from an orange tree....concepts are not real is a fallacy of ambiguity because the word real isn't a concise adjective.
Posted by vi_spex 7 months ago
vi_spex
you can pick an apple from a tree, or leave it there
Posted by vi_spex 7 months ago
vi_spex
concepts are not real
Posted by Abrant 7 months ago
Abrant
If the human race was made for greater things, let's achieve something is greater than meaning itself.
Posted by Abrant 7 months ago
Abrant
Who would willingly admit there is a destiny yet? Nobody.
Posted by Abrant 7 months ago
Abrant
Thus meaning would have to prove a destiny of some sort.
Posted by Abrant 7 months ago
Abrant
Life is a transformation ONLY if life can be proved not to be predetermined. We are always meant to do what we do until proven otherwise.
Posted by Abrant 7 months ago
Abrant
Sorry, if life has no concept. Then it has no meaning. Meanings is an idea and a concept is very much an idea.
Posted by Abrant 7 months ago
Abrant
Sorry, if life has no concept. Then it has no meaning. Meanings is an idea and a concept is very much an idea.
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Vote Placed by ssadi 8 months ago
ssadi
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Reasons for voting decision: The resolution is a fact claim: "Life IS meaningless".. Therefore, Pro has full BOP to prove this fact claim. Pro argues that it is humans that have constructed meanings.. before humans there was no meaning, but there still was life. So, since life was once without meaning, then it is still meaningless. Firstly, it assumes that something that is humans' construction doesn't exist which is not true. Since when something is constructed, then it exists. Secondly, for example, as Con pointed out, when you look at the sun for about 10 minutes, your eyes will be hurt.. In other words, keeping something weak like your eyes under sun's illumination means that it will be harmed. This characteristic of sun existed even before humans, humans only discovered it. Since the resolution was a fact claim and hence the BOP was fully on Pro and since Pro didn't sufficiently and convincingly affirm the resolution, then the points for arguments go to Con by default..