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"Limitless": 100% Brain Use?

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Started: 9/17/2015 Category: People
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lahunken61

Pro

LSD, and vagal stimulation, increases the percentage of brain use. From 50% brain use and higher every though manifests as reality. Who can control every thought. All Hell breaks loose. Soon one wishes one was someone else, and "zap", one body switches into that someone else, whose body probably only has the normal 10% brain use. But, it not being one's own body one body switches to another body when that body sleeps or dies. One then body switches into everyone one has seen, backward and forward in time, for about a hundred years duration. This phenomena was taken advantage of by the Clockwork Orange treatment. The victim was given enough LSD, or waterboarding, to cause more than 50% brain use, as the victim is forced to watch horrible films, like films of Auschwitz, and the victim suffers the torments of everyone the victim has seen. Since this "supreme grand secret" has got out and around there has been lying propaganda, like the new TV show "Limitless", the movie "Lucy", and, other efforts to confuse the issue and keep the people in ignorance.
Tarath

Con

I accept this challenge mainly because it is a nice topic and for the fun. Nonetheless I will take this debate seriously, just as my opponent.
That being said I would like to clarify as to what being the pro and con means in this debate. Pro is arguing that we are not currently using 100% of our brain and via drugs and other modifications it is possible for humans to unlock their complete "potential" (super powers like in Lucy being a possibility). Con is arguing that we are already in usage of the whole brain and superpowers would not be possible unless we change the brain itself.
I wish good luck to my opponent.
Debate Round No. 1
lahunken61

Pro

Normal people are only using 10% brain use. The MRI's show it. Clouds of light, indicating brain use, float around in the brain indicating temporary regions used, but, the total volume of these clouds is directly proportional to percentage of brain use. People with 50% to 100% brain use are catatonic, body switching backward and forward in time. Virtually secretly the psychiatric profession defines more than 10% brain use "psychotic". Back in the twentieth century psychiatry locked up anyone they caught "psychotic" in their mental hospital gulags. LSD can wake up the brain all the way to 100% brain use. People can't handle anything above 50% brain use, for every thought manifests as reality: and 20% to 50% brain usually terrifies most people. It is what has always been called "the underworld". Vagal stimulation is as effective as LSD is the modern medical way of exposing the biggest secret there ever was. The "supreme grand secret" of energy mystical secret society, and the ancient "sacred mysteries".
Tarath

Con

In round one you speak about body switching if using above 50%. The story you describe seems unlikely and sounds like conspiracy. Of course if you are so kind as to give links to a credible source of prove I will accept them as true. Until then I will count them as a rumor.

Now what you say about LSD and vagal stimulation from what I've read:
https://en.wikipedia.org...
https://en.wikipedia.org...
(if you have more reliable sources, I would be happy to read them)

is not true.

Next you speak about humans using only 10% of the brain and that MRI tests show this. That is true. Humans do use only roughly 10% at a time and it is visible as 'clouds' on an MRI. The reason this happens comes from our way of evolving. Using 100% of our brain all the time would be inefficient energy wise and also because of our biological structure and environment would lead to overheating of the brain.
We use 10% because our environment shows our brains that we don't need to work at higher capacity to find food. And until recently (+-12 000 years since the dawn of agriculture (and 12 000 years is a short time for evolution)) we had to worry only about survival of the species and food (energy) is the main thing for that to happen, hence the low use of brain power. It is true also that humans have been getting smarter and smarter in recent years (half a millennium).
As to the overheating of the brain, it is what happens if one makes the mistake to stay on the sun for too long unprotected.
You mentioned "The "supreme grand secret" of energy mystical secret society, and the ancient "sacred mysteries". This is the first time I've heard of this and again request some sort of prove.
After your first mentioning of this "supreme grand secret" you mentioned the TV series "Limitless" and "Lucy".
I made sure to watch both and the movie "Limitless" that precedes the TV series. The smart pill in the "Limitless" universe may have some truth in it. Using more of our brain at the same time, but unless we are able to control the flow of thoughts (something that happens when overexcited and stimulated (LSD)) it is useless. Yet this representation of us using less than our full potential may have a small dose of truth. Being able to understand your body better can be explained by past experience and perfect memory. As to the "getting smarter" part, that can be explained by our brain's speed of impulses to increase therefore increase the computations the brain can do for a second. Increasing that would lead to shorter time between connection creation, such as in multiplying great number witch is a series of connections ( will not explain the process, I think its clear).
What we see in Lucy is pure fantasy, no sci-fi. The brain hasn't got the capacity to have such a huge impact on the outside world. Although I enjoyed the movie, based on my current knowledge that seems impossible. Of course to my primitive brain anything advanced would seem impossible or like magic. But I dare say that the possibility is too slim to take under consideration, yet.
I would like to finish with we do use 100% of our brain but not at the same time. We may be able to use the whole brain at the same time but it is not yet proved to look anything remotely to "Limitless" or "Lucy". That being said I believe I've given all the necessary arguments to prove my position and disprove yours.
Debate Round No. 2
lahunken61

Pro

Normal people are only using 10% brain use. The MRI's show it. Clouds of light, indicating brain use, float around in the brain indicating temporary regions used, but, the total volume of these clouds is directly proportional to percentage of brain use. People with 50% to 100% brain use are catatonic, body switching backward and forward in time. Virtually secretly the psychiatric profession defines more than 10% brain use "psychotic". Back in the twentieth century psychiatry locked up anyone they caught "psychotic" in their mental hospital gulags. LSD can wake up the brain all the way to 100% brain use. People can't handle anything above 50% brain use, for every thought manifests as reality: and 20% to 50% brain usually terrifies most people. It is what has always been called "the underworld". Vagal stimulation is as effective as LSD is the modern medical way of exposing the biggest secret there ever was. The "supreme grand secret" of every mystical secret society, and the ancient "sacred mysteries".
They are also ruining the economy to trigger an elimination of the America
as we know it, so they can round up, and exterminate everyone who knows too
much. They caught me once. In 1959 my buddy and I met a homeless banished
ex-lodge member. He told us all the big secrets. In 1962 I wrote them in a
high school term paper, got a 98% for it, graduated with honors, and joined the
Army.
Meanwhile, the instructor of that class sold my term paper in the term paper
black market, the wrong people read it, they hired detectives to hunt me down,
and they zeroed in on me in the Army. They gave me Hell, the Clockwork Orange
treatment, by large doses of LSD, while being forced to watch horrible films of
human torment.
But before doing that, they bragged to me how powerful they were: the modern
"conspiracy theory". Before the modern conspiracy theory, the "conspiracy
theory" was that rich Jews controlled the world's economy. I wrote a twenty page
report and mailed it to the John Birch society, in 1972. Then the John Birch
society published what I sent them which became the modern conspiracy theory.
The Clockwork Orange treatment I was given, by large doses of LSD, went
much further than they expected. Not only did I live the torments of all the
people in the films they showed me, I lived the times, when I saw them, of every
person and animal I had seen, even in the movies and on TV. After that life I
found myself back in time, back in Valley Forge Army Hospital where it happened
again, but, I also body switched into the bodies of all I had seen in that life,
for the periods of time I had seen them. Then the life after that, I was able to
remember some of the mistakes I made the last time around.
On September 17, 1970 I got stung by a bumble bee, while I was deep in the
forest. I am allergic to bees, and soon I passed out, waking up, what seemed
instantly, six hours later. This turned out to be a great blessing, for the next
time around, after another life time, I woke up back where I had passed out from
the allergic reaction. But, I had great mind power there and used it to defend
myself, but later, got so much mind power that my every thought manifested as my
reality, and I couldn't handle it. I ended up body switching again, and found
myself back in Valley Forge Army Hospital, and started again from there.
This series of pairs happened 36 times, giving me an existence as who I
am, for over 5000 years, by going backward and forward in time so many times.
This was done to me for printing in a term paper what a banished lodge ex-member
told me, which can be put in medical terms today in one sentence,
"VAGAL STIMULATION IS AS EFFECTIVE AS LSD".
So, even though I was threatened to be put in Hell permanently, each time,
I have done everything in my power to spread these secrets. Here is another
example: We are drawn to the probability timeline resonant to our thought, by the
attractive force of inductive resonance. Vagal stimulation wakes up the brain to
more than the normal 10% brain use. This means 10% brain use at any one time,
like, an MRI shows the most used parts of the brain by patches of colored light,
but, these move around, so that we average 10% brain use, if we are "normal".
But, with 10% brain use or less we must earn what we get; 20% to 29%, an
appropriate ritual will get us what we want; 30% to 39%, writing down what we
want will get it; 40% to 49%, saying what we want will get what we want: "If you
have the faith of a mustard seed and SAY to this mountain move, it shall be
moved", you go to the timeline where the mountain is elsewhere. But, 50% is the
tipping point to every thought manifesting as your reality.
Dr. Hugh Everett found these probability timelines, sideways in time, but,
he failed to call this direction a dimension. Dr. Albert Einstein defined time
to be the fourth dimension, for science. Dr. Hugh Everett could have defined
this direction sideways in time to be the fifth dimension, but, he didn't,
probably pressured not to due to this being the secret of sorcery, probability
manipulation.
Dr. Lisa Randall defined that direction through the variously bent
timespaces to be the fifth dimension, for science, leaving the direction
sideways in time to be the sixth dimension, but, it hasn't been officially
established in formal science.
Waking up the brain to higher percentages of brain use accesses globally
bent timespace. It puts a field of globally bent timespace around us and in us,
but fortunately, without the gravitational component. It does this by virtue of
will times imagination being the power of the mind, just as force times velocity
is power in mechanics, voltage times current is power in electricity, and
temperature times entropy production rate is power in thermodynamics.
Psychiatrists will admit to each other that this power of the mind is caused
by entropy production rate, EPR, because more than 10% brain use is called
"psychosis". The psychiatric establishment in the Western world is a secret
society, and have also signed a contract of secrecy for the cartel of secret
lodges.
It is a mathematical fact that the more links there are between the neurons
of the brain, the higher the percentage of brain use. Real schizophrenia, is
caused by the gene DISC1,
causing the growth of more axons and dendrites between the
neurons of the brain. If every neuron were linked to every other neuron, there
would be 100% brain use. There are some schizophrenics with over 50% brain use,
catatonic, but who's entity is body switching in perinatal matrix three, Hell.
But, anyone can cause the growth of extra axons and dendrites by memorizing
tables of correspondences, like in Crowley's "Book 777", and in Barrett's
"Magus". The first thing that magical secret societies have their neophytes do is
to memorize such tables of correspondences. Later they have them do rigorous
pranayama, without telling them how it works. Finally the supreme secret is
revealed, that can be put in dignified medical terms today: "VAGAL STIMULATION
IS A EFFECTIVE AS LSD ".
The entropy of the universe being the proportion of photons to nucleons
(Nucleons of exact opposite polarity cancel out into photons, when brought
together), reveals that entropy production rate, EPR, is polarity cancellation
rate.
By promoting the fast cancellation of opposite polarities, like by putting
opposite polarities in a conductive electrolyte, like copper dissolved into
copper acetate in salt and white vinegar, (The iron in the cytochromes of
every cell is magnetically polarized counterclockwise in males, and clockwise in
females), the field of globally bent timespace around it, when entered, will
cause higher percentages of brain use.
Such a device, called a "shekinah", has been known to "freak out" a whole
building of people just by being hid in a closet. This is the alchemical secret, for,
by putting base metals in this solution, when, with a high EPR is called "the
medicine of metals", will change the metal into gold and other metals,
that will be fluid in that solution
so that they can be separated by gravity or inertia while still fluid, yet you
can safely put your hand in this solution, that is, I did, and there is nothing
wrong with me.
Finally, I figured out how to get out of this Hellish cycle. I must have
been in perinatal matrix three when I died to go back to Valley Forge Army
Hospital. I must have been in perinatal matrix two to go back to September 17,
1970. Next time, I must die in perinatal matrix one or in no perinatal matrix
whatsoever. To understand these terms, you may go to http://www.holotropic.com...
and buy "The Adventure of self Discovery" by Dr. Stanislav Grof. I read on the
internet that Dr. Grof took a little ketamine and thereby relived the torments
of all the prisoners of Auschwitz. You know what happened to him? He had put
people through the Clockwork Orange treatment in communist Czechoslovakia, and
now his evil karma came back to him.
What did I do for such evil to come upon me, when I was a teen ager. The
Bible says, "The sins of the fathers are visited upon the sons". In the one
substance motion can only be in closed circuitry, that there be something to
move out of the way and fill in behind. That is how karma comes back to us, even
the karma associated with our genetics. The best thing to do is to find a way
out of it. To become nonexistent.
There are two things in the universe: energy; and, information, which is
the conformation of energy. Energy is God. Being only information we can become
nonexistent. Nothing in the Bible says we are immortal, rather, Satan in Eden
did say "You shall never die". The immortality of the soul dogma is Satanic. The
Bible also says,
"The soul that sinneth shall die", "No man can keep his soul alive", and, "Only
He (God) is immortal".
Tarath

Con

Tarath forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
lahunken61

Pro

lahunken61 forfeited this round.
Tarath

Con

Tarath forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
lahunken61

Pro

Gheorghe Rakoczy, better known as
St. Germain, used a Cartesian coordinate system to illustrate what is
"in", and what is "formless".
The X axis represents polarities separated. The Y axis represents
polarities united and cancelled out.
At the arch defined by the diameter from the origin, 0, X to Y =
3.14159265... you have flat timespace. Within this arch going in toward
the origin you have timespaces with values less than 3.14159265...
By leaving the rigid (ting) orthogonality (chen) of flat timespace
matter gets more more tenuous, a tenuousity indistinguishable from that
which is called spirit.
Also, along that vector, the mind gets more and more powerful to
materialize its visualizations.
In flat timespace you have to earn what you get.
In, toward the origin a little, a ritual will get you what you want. In
further, a symbol will get you what you want. In still further, just
writing what you want will get it. In further than that, saying what you
want will get it. "If you have the faith of a mustard seed and say to
this mountain move, it shall be moved". You go to the timeline where the
mountain is elsewhere.
So, you can see that going in along the fifth dimension, defined by Dr.
Lisa Randall, professor of quantum physics at Harvard University,
defined for the gravitational analogue, you get your power by having it
easier to move to the resonant timeline of your ideation, along the
sixth dimension, defined by the quantum physicist, Dr. Hugh Everett.
In a little more and your visualizations will all manifest. And, in
still more, and every thought will manifest as your reality. I don't
know about you, but, I cannot control all my thoughts. And I can be
pessimistic. I don't like to use the word "negative". Many scientific
negatives are very good, and visa versa, many scientific positives are
very bad.
The power of the mind is will times imagination, just as sure as, power
in mechanics is force times velocity, power in electricity is voltage
times current, and power in thermodynamics is temperature times entropy
production rate, EPR.
We get "in" the easiest by EPR. In Dr. Stanislav Grof's holotropic
breathing sessions (see http://www.holotropic.com... ) assistants are
absolutely required to have experienced and safely handled holotropic
breathing themselves.
Why? When a client goes "in" by holotropic breathing, or any other
method of vagal stimulation, he brings all those near him in with him.
This is the secret of sacrifice.
Originally, sacrifice wasn't giving up something you like. It was more
like "Eight Millimeter", but, watch your Karma, it's unethical.
Soviet anthropologists defined this vagal stimulation to be the real
witchcraft. Wiccans doing rituals isn't real witchcraft.
Soviet anthropologists defined sorcery to be probability manipulations.
Rituals can be sorcery.
If we create our own fast EPR situation it will create the same field as
the person deep into holotropic breathing. EPR is identical with
polarity cancellation rate.
Take a good conductive electrolyte, to allow opposite polarities to
cancel out fast. Salt & vinegar in which copper has been dissolved to
produce a highly conductive copper acetate solution is easiest. A
lantern battery, used as like electroplating set up, will dissolve the
copper fast.
Sex magick. Mix your opposite polarities in the solution. And, it is
absolutely antiseptic. Authoritarians complained that the sex magick as
describes in Frater Achad's (Stanfield Jone's) "The Secrets of the
G.'.B.'.G.'." was a public health hazard.
I haven't even been able to find anything about the book on the
internet. I bought the book from Llewellyn in 1969. Even that Llewellyn
is gone. Chester-Kent took it over, and Isaac Bonawitz was fired for
publishing my material.
Such a brew is alchemy. It is harmful if taken internally. Bottle it,
and it will work for you, even if you are a thousand miles away from it.
Don't worry, the polarities wont be used up. The polarities are
continually teleported to the bottle by probability transduction
teleportation.
Once you pass within the pi value of two, all quantumly entangled is
transduced into probability, which ranges from lightspeed to instant at
the origin, the core, the heart. Notice, the 61st Kang Xi radical is
heart, the Cantonese for heart is "sin".
The 160th radical, which is crime, and criminal, is "sin" in Cantonese.
The name Cain in Hebrew is Qop Yod Nun = 160. The Kang Xi radicals and
the Hebrew kaballah dove tail.
The participants of this mixture (called a "shekina") are quantumly
entangled with the shekina and with each other. It is said there is a
birth here, the Magickal Child. It is a group spirit, demon in Greek,
whose nature is determined by the thoughts at its conception. Make a
wish.
But, it tends to get more and more powerful as its "polarities", come
together, and also, its conductivity increases. I have seen the thing
rotate inside by itself, like in the movie "Prince of Darkness", were
the phenomena was implemented by a big shekina in the basement of a
church. That guy who played the part of Eg Chen in "Big Trouble in
Little China" starred in the movie.
It was also the bluish green liquid that levitated out of the bottle in
"Bram Stoker's Dracula". It was also levitating out of that big jar,
dripping up to the ceiling, in "Prince of Darkness" also.
When it reaches that degree you will find it easy to manifest your mind.
The subconscious mind gets the greatest power first. When my shekina
reached that degree, every enemy I ever had was dead in a week. I didn't
even think of them. My subconscious mind did it.
Monsters from the subconscious mind, called the "id" in "The Forbidden
Planet". I used to teach my students with videos. I used to fashion my
spirit guides after movie characters. Watch out, they incarnate fallen
angels. When I became a Christian I had them all spiritually washed out
by "deliverence" sessions.
Certainly, the legends of magick lamps with geniis in them were
references to these shekinas. Fire is a fast polarity cancellation rate.
Fire is love. There is no light without polarity cancellation.
The polarities that cancel in light bulbs and candles have been
conspicuously ignored by the "system", just like there was no blueberry
candy commonly sold before this century.
To discover secrets, take universal sets, compare them, and see what's
missing. There are so many ways to get in trouble beyond written laws.
Gomory is not written in the Bible. It must be alright.
In the Goetia there are 72 demons. They are real group spirits. Raum is
the group spirit of Nazi Germany. Notice I said is. Watch out he's still
around. Vassago is the group spirit of the Mafia.
But, Gomory is the only "female" spirit in the Goetia. Stimulating the
vishuddha chakra tends to produce estrogen production. But, a Double Y
is a Double Y.
All Cro Magnon males were found to be Double Y's. They were called
Anakim by their proclivity to profane the sacred mysteries.
Initiation is Hannaka in Hebrew, related to Qanak, Enoch, and the Anak
in Anakim. Homo Sapien orders of knighthood were able to identify Cro
Magnon men by their proclivities. Now the DNA can be easily read, and
female Cro Magnons are now found.
It has been complained that these writings are too complicated. Just
Google what you don't understand. There are somethings that are even
censored from Google. And, the technicalities are to prove the facts.
Tarath

Con

Tarath forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Jonbonbon 1 year ago
Jonbonbon
Yeah, pro might want to start substantiating claims pretty soon. I mean, I'm pretty sure I don't fall asleep and start floating back and forth in time. You don't just throw out that claim and not offer any support.
Posted by Berend 1 year ago
Berend
Limitless (and Lucy) say we do not use 100% of the brain, thus plot device for a drug to use the rest to then become majorly smart. We use 100% of the brain, else that part would not be there. That part evolved for a reason. Most of it is functions and memory. That statement of "10-20%" was a mockery statement to a bunch of peers not paying attention.
Posted by Blade0886 1 year ago
Blade0886
it has been scientifically proved that the average human uses 100% of his brain everyday, and the only time it powers down is during your sleep. I don't see the point in debating a myth that has been disproved for a long time now :/
Posted by Unitomic 1 year ago
Unitomic
Idk what you're using, but it sure as hell ain't no LSD
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