The Instigator
Chrysippus
Pro (for)
Winning
11 Points
The Contender
Charlie_Danger
Con (against)
Losing
3 Points

Logic Game

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after 5 votes the winner is...
Chrysippus
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/30/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 2,455 times Debate No: 9377
Debate Rounds (5)
Comments (12)
Votes (5)

 

Chrysippus

Pro

Random logic game

Overview: Each player posts four arguments, on any (clean) topic he chooses, and on as many (clean) topics as he chooses; they can be syllogisms, paragraphs, sentences, or symbols; they can be written, in a video linked (with the intended argument pointed out in the post), in a picture or graph linked, or in a news article linked, as long as it does not require a subscription to read the article. At least one of the arguments each round needs to be subtly fallacious.

This is from a purely logical standpoint; neither reliability of the source, verity of the premises, nor real-world application of the conclusion of these arguments are to be taken into account.

In the comments section, both Pro and Con post a comment at the end of each round indicating the fallacy in their opponent's argument(s). After each opponent has done so at the end of the game, Pro and Con each post comments indicating the arguments that contained the fallacies, and how many their opponent indicated correctly.
The winner is the one who got the most correct.
Sources score goes to the winner, as reliability is not an issue here.

This is just supposed to be fun; format is not an issue here. Posting Arguments begins in round Two for fairness sake.

I thank my opponent in advance! :D
Charlie_Danger

Con

Well this sounds like fun. I thank my opponent for the debate.

I have a couple of questions that he could clarify in the comment section:

Do we agree upon the topics beforehand?
If so, does that mean that we stick with them through the whole debate?

Or do we have a grand total of 8 contending arguments per round, with each of us fighting 4 of them in the comment section?
If so, do we only get one comment?

Anyway, thanks a lot for the debate.
Good luck.
Debate Round No. 1
Chrysippus

Pro

I thank my opponent for playing with me!

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Argument one:

All quadrupeds are have paws or hooves
Animals with paws or hooves have hair
All mammals have hair
Therefore all quadrupeds are mammals.

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Argument two:

http://ustherobots.com...

The two center panels.

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Argument three:

All things that exist can be measured
Space cannot be measured
Therefore, Space does not exist

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Argument four:

Chrysippus was a famous Stoic philosopher and logician around 200 BC, 2209 years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org...
The user calling himself Chrysippus claims to be 22 years old
Either the user calling himself Chrysippus is a liar, or he is not Chrysippus.
If he is not Chrysippus, then he is lying when he calls himself Chrysippus.
If he is a liar, then he may be Chrysippus.
Therefore, if Chrysippus is telling the truth, Chrysippus is a liar.

:D

Your turn!
Charlie_Danger

Con

In an attempt to speed up the euthanisation of this debate, I post this argument.
Debate Round No. 2
Chrysippus

Pro

I follow suit with this meaningless argument.
Charlie_Danger

Con

Jesus loves you.
Debate Round No. 3
Chrysippus

Pro

:)

Nice guitar. What do you play?
Charlie_Danger

Con

Instrument-wise? Everything. Literally.

To the voters:
I promise you all get-into-heaven-free cards if you vote for me. I swear on Jesus' grave.
Debate Round No. 4
Chrysippus

Pro

Funny, Charlie think he can influence the voters by offering to bribe them with slips of paper he knows are worthless. What does this say about his opinion of the voter's intelligence? Voters, if you wish to keep any self-respect, I must sadly urge you to vote Pro.
:P

Seriously though, we ought to try this again later when school won't interfere.
My thanks for an enjoyable, if rather unorthodox and inconclusive, "debate!"
Charlie_Danger

Con

Wrong. They are laminated and very nicely made.

If you have any sense, and want to get into heaven, vote for me. Just ask GodSands or DATCMOTO. They'll tell you this is legit.

Again, I do apologize, and appreciate the little fun we had in the remainder of the rounds.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Chrysippus 7 years ago
Chrysippus
I voted in fun, and because you were such a good sport; didn't realize that anyone would vote seriously on this...
Posted by Charlie_Danger 7 years ago
Charlie_Danger
I gave you one, and only one point. I hoped that's how the voting period would end, that would have been great.
Posted by Maikuru 7 years ago
Maikuru
C: Pro - Necessary due to Con's forfeit.
S & G: Tie
A: Pro - Pro provided an argument.
S: Tie
Posted by Chrysippus 7 years ago
Chrysippus
#1 & #4 are also false.

#1 argues the inverse.

All quadrupeds(A) have paws or hooves(B)
Animals with paws or hooves(B) have hair(C)
All mammals(D) have hair(C)
Therefore all quadrupeds(A) are mammals.(D)

The form is:
A=B
B=C
D=C
ergo A=D

For this to be correct, the third set of terms should be reversed.

#4 creates a false dichotomy.
My name could very easily be Chrysippus without my being a long-dead Greek philosopher.
It isn't. And I'm not. Thank goodness...
Posted by MTGandP 7 years ago
MTGandP
They are all valid except for #3. #3 affirms the consequent.
Posted by Chrysippus 7 years ago
Chrysippus
This serious of a topic demands my highest standards of judgment. This vote must be absolutely impartial on my part, and without bias of any kind.

My RFD:
C: tied.
SP/G: tied.
CA: Con. Can I have one of those cards, please?
S: none used.

:D
Posted by Chrysippus 7 years ago
Chrysippus
*chuckles quietly*

Thanks!
Posted by Charlie_Danger 7 years ago
Charlie_Danger
Again, thanks a whole lot.

I feel no pain by giving a free debate to a newbie as cool as you, though. :)
Posted by Chrysippus 7 years ago
Chrysippus
Understood! We'll just let this one die a natural death this time; when school lets out, I look forward to debating you! :D
Hope you do well!
Posted by Charlie_Danger 7 years ago
Charlie_Danger
F*ck.
I thought it was still in the first round.

That sucks. I'm not gonna be able to take care of this debate right now, dude. I'm so sorry, but I have some school stuff going on this week, and this debate style requires an extra amount of time and effort that I can't afford right now.

All apologies, my friend.
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