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MTV show Teen Mom Should Be Banned Because It Promotes Teen Pregnancy.

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Started: 7/8/2012 Category: Society
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samantha0331

Pro

MTV's show Teen Mom, promotes teen pregnancy all around the world. This show allows young girls to think that if they become pregnant, they too can end up with a TV show deal and become famous. This show has been on for many years now, and I feel as if the teen pregnancy ratings have largely increased. This show glamorizes the fact that these young girls are getting pregnant and it is okay to be sexually active at such a young age.

While some may think that "Teen Mom" shows the hardships of being a teenager and dealing with a newborn, it is merely a show that attracts attention where it is not needed. I think many of these shows are very dramatic and do not show the real true person. Many of these girls that are on Teen Mom, are "famous" now, and would easily be recognized if they were walking down the street. I do not think this is the type of show that should be promoted on a highly watch channel these days.

By keeping this show on TV, it simply shows a young girl, who has little or no structure in their lives, that if they go out and get pregnant that they will be able to be a TV star and will gain money from being on that TV show. I do not think this is right and I think it should be taken off the air. There are too many young girls, who don't even know how to take care of themselves and they are bringing another innocent human being into the world. This is wrong and should be stopped before this problem becomes even worse than it already is.
123chess456

Con



Section A (Effects lower teen pregnancy rates) 
1. This show, in reality, showcases that having a baby is a tough experience for a teenager due to the fact that
i. Responsibilities are showcased
ii. The pain of childbirth is referenced
iii. The awkward conversations with her parents is shown
2. In the show, the teen moms are faced with tough situations that scare teenagers into not having children such as
i. Maci, the stereotypical popular girl, is faced with losing her boyfriend. She also has to take online courses from the local state college due to her baby.
ii. Farrah, after proving to her baby's father's family through a paternity test that her ex-boyfriend is the father of her child, is faced with having her ex-boyfriend's parents butting into her baby's life
iii. Catelynn places her baby up for adoption, showing there are other choices for teen moms then raising the child themselves
iv. Amber has to deal with having little to no free time after having her baby and dealing with the consequences of her abusing her spouse, showing that not all domestic abuse is perpetrated by the man
Section B (Positive role models)
1. Teen mom shows positive role models such as how the mothers care about their children in many ways
2. The show also shows that Catelynn's baby's stepparents care about her, unlike how stepparents are portrayed in many fairy tales as abusive and psychopathic
Section C (Why they will keep it on the air)
1. MTV is allowed to broadcast this as it is not obscenity or adult scenes
2. Petitions won't work as they are a private corporation
3. The show is too profitable for them
Debate Round No. 1
samantha0331

Pro

ii. The pain of childbirth is referenced
Teens are not going to not have sex and become pregnant simply because they see how painful childbirth can be. If they can see the rewards after the child birth, then they will not think twice about the pain bearing a child can have.

i. Maci, the stereotypical popular girl, is faced with losing her boyfriend. She also has to take online courses from the local state college due to her baby.


There are many "popular" girls who are faced with possibly losing their boyfriend and also having to take online classes because of having a baby. This does not need to be televised to add drama where it is not needed. There are older women who are married and are faced with losing their spouse. It happens everyday. It does not need to be put on television for other young girls to see and make examples of.

ii. Farrah, after proving to her baby's father's family through a paternity test that her ex-boyfriend is the father of her child, is faced with having her ex-boyfriend's parents butting into her baby's life.

Her boyfriend had passed away due to a car accident. People deal with paternity tests and grandparent's wanting to see their grandchildren all the time, this is not going to be a decision that makes or breaks a girls decision to want to become pregnant.


As far as "having little or no free time" that is all part of having children no matter what age you are. That child becomes the top priority over everything else. This isn't just merely the case of teens having children, this is the case when any woman, younger or older, have children.

2. The show also shows that Catelynn's baby's stepparents care about her, unlike how stepparents are portrayed in many fairy tales as abusive and psychopathic

I am not exactly sure who you are referring to when you say "Catelynn's baby's step-parents" If you are referring to the adoptive parents, they keep Catelynn and Tyler very much in the baby's life, or as much as they can through their adoption policy. They show love and support where it is needed and that is very important. I am not saying that all teens should put their babies up for adoption, but what Catelynn and Tyler did for their newborn was a very brave and powerful thing that many people can not do.


Conclusion:
I still feel as if keeping this show on the air it will allow young girls with no structure in their lives to simply think that getting pregnant is a good idea. There have been many seasons of "16 and Pregnant" as well as "Teen Mom" and "Teen Mom 2". There has been 47 girls on 16 and Pregnant!
http://theashleysrealityroundup.com...
This show is not making teen parenting look hard. All of these girls get a nice check from MTV, they all have nice cars and live in good homes. I do not think this show shows how hard it can be to be a teen parent. It simply shows a young girl who does not have a good family life that this is an outlet because it could make them famous. Thank you.
123chess456

Con


Rebuttal A
Section A shows a combination of different experiences that make teens not want to get pregnant. You also seem to underestimate the importance of a teen's free time. A teen will want to still have friends but she can't because of her baby. Adults can deal with this by becoming friends with adults that have children but since there isn't that many teens in schools that have children a teenager will lose her friends.
Rebuttal B
Having to take online courses from a local state college is an important issue as Maci cannot get into a real college/university. Online courses are usually inferior in quality to real college education as you cannot ask the "professor" any questions. They have little to no interactivity causing less learning overall. Losing her boyfriend is important for her as she has a child that will one day want to see his/her father. The child will also grow up without his/her father in the home. Maci will also only be able to live on one income when she gets older, causing less comfortable living arrangements for her child.
Rebuttal C
Farrah has to deal with the fact that her ex-boyfriend's parents want to go into the baby's life. The baby hasn't had the grandparents in his/her life before. A girl may not want to have a child due to this exact reason, the grandparents might be abusive. You wouldn't want some people you didn't know to go into your child's life. Free time is still very important in a teen's life, you don't have peer pressure or homework to do. Teens also need to go to parties and such.
Rebuttal D
Giving up your baby is a very brave thing to do, especially considering that the parent feels a very maternal bond to the child. Catelynn and Tyler, however, have not given up their baby, they still visit him/her. That makes them stuck between the worst of both worlds because on one hand, they still visit their child, which takes away free time. On the other hand, the baby is still adopted so they can't be involved in the baby's life.
Rebuttal to your conclusion
"Young girls with no structure in their lives think that getting pregnant is a good idea" is a very misguided sentence. Teenagers probably will only think that getting pregnant is a good idea if it actually is. For example, if a teenager gets pregnant so she can get child support, is that really such a bad idea in the (selfish) teenager's mind? Teenagers learn many lessons from this show, including that raising children is a hard experience. They learn from that and their own minds that getting pregnant is a hard experience. The girls in fact probably get a very small check from MTV that barely allows them to pay the bills for their children. Remember, they aren't professional child actors, only professional child actors get competitive rates.
Debate Round No. 2
samantha0331

Pro

In your Section A, I do not underestimate the importance of teens having free time. That is something that is very much important, as I too was once a teenager. I think we can agree that having a child, no matter what age you are is difficult work. The way I see it; When you are young and "in love" with your boyfriend or girlfriend, you are not thinking a few steps ahead. Most young girls can not even take care of themselves, let alone another human being.

As for Maci having to take online courses, I don't find anything wrong with online classes. Yes, it is a very different environment and you do not have the ability to walk up to your professor when you are having trouble, but there are still other ways to be successful in an online course. Even if Maci were to not be with her boyfriend, which she is not, her son is still able to see his father and has a very good relationship with his father. Again, I don't think girls think situations through before going through with the actions.

Conclusion:
There are too many young girls not thinking before they go through with many situations. Teenagers are not fully mature enough to handle the responsibilities of having a child. This is not the situation in all cases, but many teens like to experience different things and like to experiment with different things as well, such as drugs and/or alcohol. By experimenting with all of these things and then experimenting being sexually active, it can really harm your unborn child. Overall, I look at the show Teen Mom with more negative then positive aspects.
123chess456

Con

First paragraph rebuttal
In your first sentences, you say you "do not underestimate the importance of teens having free time". In reality, I think you do. While adults can stay up late so they have free time, teenagers cannot do that. Teenagers also cannot stay up late because they have growing bodies. In your third sentence, you suggest that young people rush "in love with [their] boyfriend or girlfriend". The same is true for adults as well. A great many adults have gone into relationships that are in fact abusive towards them. The difference is, is that teenagers don't struggle with alcohol abuse as much as adults, due in a large part towards their parents. Their parents would punish them severely if they came home drunk. Most teenager's dates have to go through a lengthy review process by their parents, which can severely limit their ability to rush into relationships. That is why, teenagers do have relationships that are respectful and consensual. In your fourth sentence, you fail to mention that the young girls more often then not have someone who helps them with their child, I.E. parents, boyfriend, grandparents.
Second paragraph rebuttal
Maci having to take online courses could affect her future job as in the chronicle of higher education, (http://www.freakonomics.com... is the specific article), one student reported that is was very easy to cheat on online tests. Maci might not get a job because the manager might see that she took online courses, which might have been easy to cheat on. The manager wouldn't hire her as he might think her credentials were cheated into. With your repetitive accusations that teenagers do not think things through before they do them, in my first argument I stated in A2 (section A, second point) that the show, in fact, causes teenagers to think things through before doing anything by showing the long-term consequences of these teenagers actions.
Rebuttal to conclusion
In your opinion, you said that young girls do not think through the long-term consequences of their actions. Since this debate is about whether to take teen mom off the air, I say that teen mom should be kept on the air for precisely your reasons. Teen mom showcases the long-term consequences of teen pregnancy, which is important to lower teen pregnancy rates. Teen mom was released on December 9th, 2008. In the span between 2009 and 2010, (http://tinyurl.com... is the source) you can clearly see that teenage pregnancy rates have declined by a large amount between the year that most of teen mom's first season was aired and the end of it. As well as your statement that teenagers will experiment with drugs, alcohol and sexual activity at the same time, that argument is unsubstantiated.
Debate Round No. 3
samantha0331

Pro

While adults can stay up late so they have free time, teenagers cannot do that. Teenagers also cannot stay up late because they have growing bodies.

Teenagers absolutely can stay up late. Living with two teenagers, I can see and experience first hand just how late they really can stay up. I do not think a teenager will go to bed early simply because they have growing bodies. That is not enough of a reason to go to bed early. As a immature teenager, you will never think in your head that you should go to bed early because you are still growing and you need time to rest your body.


Rebuttal Against falling in love too quickly as a teen:

Teenagers will absolutely think that the boyfriend/girlfriend they have when they are younger will be the person they spend the rest of their life with. I have seen many occasions where this has been proved true, including an experience of my own. When you are young you do not see past the moment that you are in, therefore this leads to not thinking about the future and making decisions that you do not know the full consequences for.

The difference is, is that teenagers don't struggle with alcohol abuse as much as adults, due in a large part towards their parents. Their parents would punish them severely if they came home drunk. Most teenager's dates have to go through a lengthy review process by their parents, which can severely limit their ability to rush into relationships.

Teens may not struggle with alcohol abuse like grown adults do. The world is a completely different place than it was a few years ago. Parents may not always be home, a teen could live in the home of a single parent who is not there to supervise their every move or even have a parent who really doesn't care about what is going on in their child's life. This leads to teens experimenting with drugs and alcohol and possibly having boyfriends/girlfriends over to their house when their parent is working long, late hours or is naive to the fact that these teens could be doing something they should not be doing. This is not uncommon these days and is happening more often than not. I think in some cases it may be very difficult for a teenager to have a boyfriend/girlfriend due to the amount of involvement their parents may have, but then there is also the flip side to that where it may be very easy for a teenager to have a boyfriend/girlfriend without the involvement of their parents.

Maci/online courses Rebuttal:
I do not think a manager for a job will be able to see that she has taken online courses. As long as she has completed the requirements for applying for that job, how she accomplished those tasks should not be an issue. Online courses are very difficult and you have to be very disciplined when you sign up to take them.


Conclusion:
The show will still glorify becoming a teen mom. Stated in this website, http://www.palyvoice.com... ;; it explains that it shows young girls that they have the chance to be on the cover of magazines and also getting paid from being on the show. Like I have stated before, a young girl who does not have a good family and/or friend structure in her life, and who possibly would need money in order to survive, would jump at an opportunity such as this. There would be no one around her to tell her that this is not the way to do things and that she can have so much more for her life. Thank you.
123chess456

Con

123chess456 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
samantha0331

Pro

Please extend all arguments. Thank you.
123chess456

Con

My cable company made me wait three days for internet
Rebuttal to her. Everything she said is unsourced. So is "the paly voice". Make your own arguments.
Conclusion
Everything she said was false.
Debate Round No. 5
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