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Malala Yousafzai issue: is it right to punish for freedom of speech?

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Started: 11/14/2012 Category: Society
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Malala Yousafzai is a school student from the town of Mingora in the Swat District of Pakistan. In 2009 Yousafzai wrote a blog under a pseudonym for BBC detaling her life under Taliban rule, their attempts to take control of the valley,and her views on promoting education for girls. The following summer, a New Yourk Times documentary was filmed about her life as the Pakistani military intervened in the region,culminating in the Second Battle of Swat. On 9 October 2012, Yousafzai was shot in the head and neck in an assassination attempt by Taliban gunmen while returning home on a school bus. So, is it right to punish school student for freedom of speech? There are 4 Rounds, voting period is 1 week, time to argue 72 hours, 8,000 characters allowed.


I've spoken with Captain Obvious, and the "Lamest Question a Human Could Ask" magazine, agree that you may be delusional.

The delusion you are experiencing is expecting someone to say its right to punish someone for freedom of speech, by kidnapping and raping them for 24 yrs.

My diagnosis, is that you may be intellectually malnurished due to suckling information, guidance and knowledge from childish, and divisive religious dogma.

Do you suckle a holy binky of any kind?

I only ask because only someone deluded enough to think the reason for all the stars and galaxies is admittingly jealous, would be suseptible to such pointless questions as yours :)

Now back to big kids stuff :)

Delusional 7:56--Is it really logical and likely in your mind 100%, that with the thousands of different sects, thousands of different interpretations of each, you have the absolute certainty, that your sect, and interpretation of that sect and the holy book or writings it subscribes too, describes the reason for everything, you are seriously delusional. Please refrain from breeding until youre cured. The poisonious effects of the doctrine you infected your brain with, has caused serious malnutrition in your brain, which has led to the atrophy of your intuition, intellect and instinct. Breeding these weak characteristics of three really important parts of our conciousness into each generation is retarding our growth, we wont be able to evolve concioussly very fast dragging a ball and chain of outdated childish and ultimitely divisive beliefs :)

BigKids 9:47--I am NOT ONLY A-THEIST to zeus, romulos, mithra, krishna, osiris, horus jesus, allah and all the other "gods", but also a-unicornist, a-hobgoblinist, and a-leprechaunist, even at the end of rainbows :)

DevientGenie 9:26--Contrary to popular belief, the Genie understands the trinity. The trinity of Intuition, Intellect and Instinct, there you will always have the answer, even if the answer is "I dont know" thats ok, big kids arent young enough to know everything :)
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CaptainObvious 2:2--Every genius could be wrong every minute of everyday, these wrong events will never justify the alternative is a sexist homophobic bully who was born of a virgin to be crucified in order to bless and save us. Science has found ways to bless and save us without feeling the need for ritualistic human torture and crucifiction. As stated on this day, as it has been stated on days prior, and days to come, Science Wins :)

DevientGenie 4:43--There will come a time when a man with the intuition and wit of a million men times a trillion men minus fourteen divided by three times twenty five trillion comes along with his faithful sponsors. This is the man that carries the ideal amount of seriously duh interpretation. As some guy said to another guy about a story he heard from these fisherman who were listening to stories about everything with a group of people :)

DevientGenie 2:22--The most interesting man hath been in your grace. The joy that follows you will forever imprint itself in your being. The Genie is not deviant in any evil way, hence the second "E" in his name, yet he is the fairy tale believers splashing glass of ice water :)

EVOLUTION 6:6---Thou life will consist of many hurdles, especially those in the 110m highs, and over these hurdles you shall glide, for evolution has blessed you with the ability to stride :)
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Debate Round No. 3


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The reason scientists say nothing is really something, is because when we remove everything from an area of space, including the radiation and all particles, protons, etc etc, even gravity is removed from that space, everything is taken out. There is still an unindentifiable weight in that so called "nothing". The "nothing" is what scientists call unstable :)

Check out Lawrence Krauss Something from Nothing

Now the nothing left, is just that, nothingness. However, we JUST add back the gravity, nothing else. It creates a positive charge and a negative charge and two particles form, a positive and a negative. If the gravitational pull is strong enough, it pulls those two particles together, hence something out of nothing.

Experiments like this have been done countless times to get these conclusions. Science is done by brilliant minded scientists, not idiots or members of a conspiracy.

The earth was estimated to be here for approx 2 million years before there was even simple bacteria that came about. Then about another 2 billion years there was nothing, then the single celled organism of the simplest form came about and the rest is history.

There are many species of monkey and ape. Todays living Monkeys are simply our ancestors, we are not direct decendants of todays monkey, we are decendants of another type of creature in the monkey category. Get it?The Monkeys of today are simply like cousins to the monkey type we evolved from.

We can trace the evolutiontionary trail extremely clearly, all the way back to the begininng in the water.

This is 2012, and we are in fact that smart. There is no conspiracy, there is no cover up and there is no need for speculation.

The geniuses of this planet have solved the riddle of evolution unequivically and believing that or not will not change the fact of evolution anymore than a non belief in the rotation of the earth will change its validity!

You cant see sub atomic particles, but they are right in front of your face until the day you pass on.

Beliefs, your inspiration, what makes you feel good, what makes you happy, or what makes you sleep at night, is not the concern of the rotation of the earth, whether it rains or not, the evolution of our species, or the creation of something from nothing.

These processes will always happen, even if we believe the earth is flat, it will still be a sphere.

The dispicable part is when that naive ignorance takes such a stronghold on society, that our freedoms are compromised in the name of religious tales, that we believe to make us feel better.

Even if there is this "god", who was responsible for evolution and the extrordianarily beautiful and complex world of sub atomic particles, even if there were a god who created or started these processes, and made gravity, what makes you so arrogant that you also believe this source or reason for everything is somehow concerned with your daily life on such a personal level that he created a son to be tortured and killed to save you and he monitors your sex life while watching who is naughty or nice?

Science has shown how something comes from nothing, we havent shown that the reason for everything is really a petty sexist motherphucker like the holy binky proclaims :)

Its absurd to think the source of such a brilliant creation of the sub atomic world and evolution could also be so involved in your sex life and if youre naughty or nice.

The brainwashing and manipulation of human emotions such as hope, love and faith, have been the target of relgions for centuries.

Whats it gonna take for mankind to let go off the tit, or crutch, of religious tales to fill the gaps of whatever science cannot prove? In regards to other dimensions, we are now closer to understanding more than just 2D or 3D because of the Higgs Boson discovery on July 4, 2012, the proof is there, the transmission, acceptance and understanding and ultimiley underestimating and disrespecting of the truth, is the whole problem :)

Nature is indifferent. It is not inherintly evil. People are NOT born evil Nature doesnt care if you think the earth is flat, it will form a sphere whether you like it or NOT.

Nature will make the earth revolve around the sun, your belief that the earth is the center and everything revolves around it, will not influence the indifferent approach taken by nature.

Nature will evolve thru cumulative evolution by natural selection over 4 billion yrs. Wrapping your head around 4 billion yrs like a big kid, is a great way to wake up your intuition, intellect and instinct, and allowing those 3 attriburtes to stretch their legs, is the single most corrosive thing to religious beliefs.

You've been told that "evolution is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. I dont need to change peoples minds about evolution, anymore than I need to help them take a piss, if they cant do it for themselves, thats part of the problem.

The Theory of Evolution is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use. That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory.

In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations. It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be.

Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law.

This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain.

Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory.

Evolution is the same. There's the fact of evolution. Evolution,cumulative genetic change over generations, happens, just like gravity does. Don't take my word for it. Ask a serious science teacher, or google it. But that's not the issue we are addressing here. The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is our best explanation for the fact of evolution. It has been tested and scrutinised for over 150 years, and is supported by all the relevant observations.

Evolution is not just a theory, it's triumphantly a theory!

Allowing the poison of religious text to atrophy intuition, intellect and instinct, is the ball and chain mankind drags on its way to a higher standard :)
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by devient.genie 5 years ago
Brainiacs 11:4--Hey religious kids, did you realize that singling out and calling the morons (second 'm' left out for flavor), jehovahs witness, islam, shamans, or any other belief, calling them ridiculous or a cult while youre embracing another religion, is like someone calling charles manson despicable while writing love letters to jerry sandusky :)

BigKids 8:23--Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life that, without theism, affirms our responsibility to lead ethical lives of value to self and humanity because we want to, that doesnt sound too difficult right? :)

Delusions 8:24--If a personal god hears you murmur, or chant, or pray, and you believe that created a positive result on a test at school, or a promotion, or a game winning touchdown, or any sporting athlete who thanks a god, what is your lazy god doing paying attention to your petty wishes but NOT teen girls forced in sex trafficing rings that are praying to get away alive? Grow out of the binky and be strong enough to make it on your own without the holy binky there for you to suckle that ultimitley leads to atrophy of your intuition, intellect and instinct :)

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Posted by devient.genie 5 years ago
FourHorsemen 3:15--Science we are told should NOT tread on the toes of theology. But why should scientists tiptoe respectfully away? Its time for people of reason to stand up, and say enough is enough. Religious FAITH discourages independant thought, its divisive and its dangerous--Richard Dawkins :)

STUDS 7:2--Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science "to support scientific education, critical thinking and evidence-based understanding of the natural world in the quest to overcome religious fundamentalism, superstition, intolerance and suffering." :)

Bummer 6:21--Unfortunately, philosophy as a course of study is disappearing from our nation"s colleges, yet its focus on analytical thinking and problem solving is more vitally important today than ever :)

DevientGenie 8:22--Believers in a god do good for the sake of getting a reward and avoiding punishment after death, non believers in Bronze Aged fiction, do good becasue theyre nice :)

Owyuken 2:6-- The Religous views on Science: Grrrrr, or, thats kinda neat and/or weird....huh, or devil, or conspiracy, or money grubbing lazy stupid scientists, or incomplete or inadequate, or so what?, whats scinece have to do with anything?, or just flat out impossible to be even close to correct. The brilliant mind of a highly educated person in all areas of all industries in society says about science: Wow...Each discovery is INSPIRING, because it gives me HOPE for the future, and I feel the LOVE with a closer connection to the universe, and I have FAITH that science will find a way to BLESS AND SAVE me and make life better, whenever it can, because it is simply the most BEAUTIFUL AND MAGICAL simply becasue we know its real, and because we know how it works. Science is done by brilliant minded individuals who win Nobel Prizes , NOT idiots, or pedophiles" :)

BigKids 14:7--Do not avoid and ignore those who are good without god, pity those that need god to be good :)

Brainiacs 11:4--Hey religious kids, did yo
Posted by TheElderScroll 5 years ago
It is a very sensitive issue. In the United States, the freedom of Speech is protected by the U.S Constitution. But for those Islamic states, it seems that those religious leaders have the final say.
Posted by brian_eggleston 5 years ago
This vile and cowardly attack has been utterly condemned in every part of the world, including Islamic states. Even the Taleban have been reluctant to justify the shooting.

We have some extremists on this site but I can"t think of any member that would seek to defend the shooting of a young girl for committing the religious "crime" of going to school, so I suspect you may have to wait quite a while before this debate is accepted!
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