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Many gays are delusional

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BlackHomophobicAtheists

Pro

Round 1
Pro states claims
Con challenges pro's claims

Round 2
Pro disputes con's challenge from round 1
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Round 3
Conclusions

Rules
No new claims in rounds 2 and 3.

Argument

Delusion - a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact:

The following are delusions of LGBT people

1. Gays think they belong in the category with racial minorities.

In reality, gays belong in the category with sexual minorities. Gays become offended when someone compares them to other sexual minorities such as incest and bestiality. That's because the truth offends them. Gays are happy when they are grouped with racial minorities. That's because feeding their delusion satisfies them

Polygamists, incestuous people, pedophiles and gays experienced stigma and civil rights issues

Gays pretend that gays are the only sexual minority who experienced civil rights issues as an excuse to compare themselves with blacks. Gays don't even want anyone to mention other sexual minorities who had issues with civil rights

Polygamists, incestuous people, pedophiles, peoplw who have sex with animals and homosexuals are all defined by a special desire that prompts a specific sexual behavior

Regardless of the similarities of gays and other sexual minorities, gays refuse to group themselves with other sexual minorities

2. If a man thinks he's a woman even though he's clearly a man, gays will really believe he's really a woman and even address him as a woman.

If a man thinks he's a unicorn even though he's clearly a man, would anyone thinks he's a unicorn? Gay people are delusional.

3. Gay people think allowing gay marriage is" marriage equality" even though other types of marriages are not allowed. Not allowing polygamous marriage and incestuous marriage violates marriage equality. Equality by definition means equality for everyone involved, not just one particular group.

4. Gay people think homosexuality is just as significant as heterosexuality. Heterosexuality is the reason humans exist. Nothing can match that. Better yet, homosexuality is the reason why the HIV epidemic exist in america. Homosexuality is also the reason why syphilis wasn't eliminated in America. Homosexuality is not even close to being as significant as heterosexuality

5. Gay people think homophobia has to do with irrational fear.
First of all, homophobia is a misnomer. Not even one person has been diagnosed with homophobia using the basic diagnostic criteria for all phobias. Not even one person has ever ran from a gay just because the gay appeared. Not even one person has showed any kind of fear when gays are present. In reality, people are disgusted by gays, not afraid of them. Gays are offended by the truth. They hate the thought that people are simply disgusted by them. They are happy with the irrational fear explanation because it feeds their delusion

Study shows homophobia is rooted in disgust, not fear (olutanji et al 2001)

6. Gay people think homophobes are secretly gay. Most people in the 1950s were homophobes. That means gay people think 90% of the population were all gay in the 1950s. That means close to 100% were gay in the 1950's. This is clearly of delusion.

How do gays explain ex-homophobes who are heterosexual? According to gays, they were secretly gay when they were homophobic but they must have turned straight when they started like gays. This is clearly a delusion

Homophobia rooted and unwanted sexual advances (Angeles pilott 2011)

Unlike gay propaganda studies, this study actually Researched men and women
Antonio8877

Con

lets get to it shall we.

1. "Gays think they belong in the category with racial minorities.

In reality, gays belong in the category with sexual minorities. Gays become offended when someone compares them to other sexual minorities such as incest and bestiality. That's because the truth offends them. Gays are happy when they are grouped with racial minorities. That's because feeding their delusion satisfies them

Polygamists, incestuous people, pedophiles and gays experienced stigma and civil rights issues

Gays pretend that gays are the only sexual minority who experienced civil rights issues as an excuse to compare themselves with blacks. Gays don't even want anyone to mention other sexual minorities who had issues with civil rights

Polygamists, incestuous people, pedophiles, peoplw who have sex with animals and homosexuals are all defined by a special desire that prompts a specific sexual behavior

Regardless of the similarities of gays and other sexual minorities, gays refuse to group themselves with other sexual minorities"

Premise 1
A lot of arguments put forth are inadequate and are based more on common assumption than on evidence. Homosexuals are no more likely to commit incest, or bestiality than heterosexuals are; laws against incest, bestiality pedophilia are put to protect civil society, and civil interests. Governments have only three options when it comes to maintaining a healthy society. It can allow, permit or prohibit certain actions. Just as how it allows police work, permits some professions and prohibits drug dealing. Why? Because drug dealing harms society while police work benefits it. One cannot give civil rights to individuals that harm society like the "sexual minorities" pro mentioned. Pro has failed to give "similarities of gays and other sexual minorities" citation needed.

2. "If a man thinks he's a woman even though he's clearly a man, gays will really believe he's really a woman and even address him as a woman.

If a man thinks he's a unicorn even though he's clearly a man, would anyone thinks he's a unicorn? Gay people are delusional."

This is illogical, and serves has a stereotype than point out "delusions". Again citation is needed to show that this is actually what happens.

3." Gay people think allowing gay marriage is" marriage equality" even though other types of marriages are not allowed. Not allowing polygamous marriage and incestuous marriage violates marriage equality. Equality by definition means equality for everyone involved, not just one particular group."

Polygamous marriage or incest offers no benefits to society as whole, monogamous marriages are institutional to raising children and contributing to civil society while polygamy and incent fail to do so. Children raised under heterosexual or homosexual households show similarities in psychological, emotional and physical wellbeing, and don"t violate the civil institution of marriage.
https://www.washingtonpost.com...

4." Gay people think homosexuality is just as significant as heterosexuality. Heterosexuality is the reason humans exist. Nothing can match that. Better yet, homosexuality is the reason why the HIV epidemic exist in america. Homosexuality is also the reason why syphilis wasn't eliminated in America. Homosexuality is not even close to being as significant as heterosexuality"

While true that homosexuals cannot reproduce, homosexual couples are adopting abandoned children after being reproduced by heterosexuals. Homosexuality has been observed in the animal kingdom and is biologically and evolutionary beneficial. http://www.bbc.com... citation is needed to prove "homosexuality is the reason why the HIV epidemic exist in america. Homosexuality is also the reason why syphilis wasn't eliminated in America. Homosexuality is not even close to being as significant as heterosexuality"

5. "Gay people think homophobia has to do with irrational fear.
First of all, homophobia is a misnomer. Not even one person has been diagnosed with homophobia using the basic diagnostic criteria for all phobias. Not even one person has ever ran from a gay just because the gay appeared. Not even one person has showed any kind of fear when gays are present. In reality, people are disgusted by gays, not afraid of them. Gays are offended by the truth. They hate the thought that people are simply disgusted by them. They are happy with the irrational fear explanation because it feeds their delusion

Study shows homophobia is rooted in disgust, not fear (olutanji et al 2001)"

Exercising hatred and disgust is not what a civil, moral society is founded upon now is it? If treating people different and discriminating against them is "delusional" then perhaps Martin Luther King Jr was delusional in thinking African Americans were being discriminated against.

6. "Gay people think homophobes are secretly gay. Most people in the 1950s were homophobes. That means gay people think 90% of the population were all gay in the 1950s. That means close to 100% were gay in the 1950's. This is clearly of delusion.
How do gays explain ex-homophobes who are heterosexual? According to gays, they were secretly gay when they were homophobic but they must have turned straight when they started like gays. This is clearly a delusion
Homophobia rooted and unwanted sexual advances (Angeles pilott 2011)
Unlike gay propaganda studies, this study actually Researched men and women"

http://www.livescience.com...
https://youreadygrandma.wordpress.com...
That does not mean that every homophobe is gay, though homophobia was deeply driven by cultural religious elements in the 1950s. Ideology can be used to drive society to a specific conclusion on many things including racism, sexism, and yes homophobia. Though these studies look at psychological responses, not culturally driven hysteria.
Debate Round No. 1
BlackHomophobicAtheists

Pro

1." Homosexuals are no more likely to commit incest, or bestiality than heterosexuals are; laws against incest, bestiality pedophilia are put to protect civil society, and civil interests"

STRAW MAN FALLACY. You are arguing against a claim that I never stated.

I never said gays are more likely to commit those acts. My point is, Polygamists, incestuous people, pedophiles, people who have sex with animals AND homosexuals are all defined by a taboo desire that prompts a specific taboo sexual behavior in which means they all belong in the same category.

Even if you weren't spewing a straw man fallacy,
gays triggered the hiv epidemic at least in America, prevented the chance of syphilis being eliminated, and triggered another syphilis epidemic. Incest and bestiality never caused that much damage.

"This is illogical, and serves has a stereotype than point out "delusions". Again citation is needed to show that this is actually what happens"

All I need to show is gays honor the MALE 'caitlin Jenner' as a FEMALE even though he's clearly a MALE to show that gays believe any man who thinks hes a female is really a female. HE didn't even have a sex change. He's a male who wears female clothing and makeup.

Google
"The City of Tel Aviv on Thursday invited Caitlyn Jenner to be a guest of honor at its LGBT Pride Week celebration"

"Polygamous marriage or incest offers no benefits to society as whole"

Marriage equality is marriage equality. Drawing a line to exclude other marriages violates marriage equality. People who oppose gay marriage drew a line to exclude gay marriages but gays called that violating "marriage equality". Gays are delusional for believing allowing gay marriage is marriage equality when other marriages are excluded. Again, Excluding other types of marriages violates marriage equality in which means allowing gay marriage but not other types of marriages is NOT marriage equality. It can only be RATIONALLY called 'marriage equality' when ALL types of marriages are legal according to the definition of 'equality'

"homosexual couples are adopting abandoned children after being reproduced by heterosexuals"

Your claim does not change the fact that heterosexuality is the reason why humans exist including gays. If gays did not exist, human existence will continue with no problem. The only major difference is, we probably would have never had an HIV epidemic. If heterosexuals didn't exist, none of us would even be here now.

"Homosexuality has been observed in the animal kingdom and is biologically and evolutionary beneficial"

Cannibalism, incest, pedophilia, mental disorders, eating their own dead infants, etc have all been observed in the animal kingdom.

like homosexuality, mental disorders are common occurrences. Using your logic, mental disorders and pedophilia have
evolutionary benefits because evolution didn't select against them to wipe them out.

"Exercising hatred and disgust is not what a civil, moral society is founded upon now is it?"

Not one study shows homophobia is rooted in 'hatred'

Unlike homosexuality, scientific studies show disgust has evolutionary benefits.

Study
Disgust is" a disease avoidance emotion (graham c.l." davey)

Published31 October 2011"doi: 10.1098/rstb.2011.0039"Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B"12 December 2011"vol. 366 no.1583 3453-3465

Study
Disgust is an adaptive disease avoidance behavior (Valerie Curtis" et AL 2011)

Published"3 January 2011"doi: 10.1098/rstb.2010.0117"Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B"12 February 2011"vol. 366 no.1563 389-401

Study
Homophobia is rooted in unwanted sexual advances (Angela Pirlott 2011)

"That does not mean that every homophobe is gay, though homophobia was deeply driven by cultural religious elements in the 1950s"

Your claim does not change the fact that it is a delusion to believe that most people who hate gays are gay themselves considering homophobia in the 1950s.

Again, study shows homophobic your is rooted in disgust in which applies to the homophobes in the 1950s also because times change but human behavior pretty much stays the same

Study shows homophobia is a misnomer and the popular definition does not apply to the people who are labeled 'homophobes'.

Study
Homophobia is rooted in disgust, not fear (olantunji et al 2001)

Study
Disgust is" a disease avoidance emotion (graham c.l." davey)

Published31 October 2011"doi: 10.1098/rstb.2011.0039"Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B"12 December 2011"vol. 366 no.1583 3453-3465

Study
Disgust is an adaptive disease avoidance behavior (Valerie Curtis" et AL 2011)

Published"3 January 2011"doi: 10.1098/rstb.2010.0117"Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B"12 February 2011"vol. 366 no.1563 389-401

Study
Homophobia is rooted in unwanted sexual advances (Angela Pirlott 2011)
Antonio8877

Con

"I never said gays are more likely to commit those acts. My point is, Polygamists, incestuous people, pedophiles, people who have sex with animals AND homosexuals are all defined by a taboo desire that prompts a specific taboo sexual behavior in which means they all belong in the same category."

Pro is classifying homosexuality with unrelated taboo behaviours that lay outside the realm of sexual orientation, it is not a straw man given the fact that is what pro is implying. Again, pro is classifying homosexuality as a taboo sexual behaviour when it is clearly found in nature as I said in the previous round. Homophobes might claim that acceptance of homosexuality might be a gateway to acceptance of"pedophilia,"zoophilia,"incest"or other perversions, in the same manner as public acceptance of Earl Grey tea is a gateway to public acceptance of"heroin. That is a"slippery slopefallacious argument; in other words, nonsense. In the past, pederasty was a major form of homosexuality in Western culture, especially ancient Greece and Rome (and likely fueled some of the early Christians' animus against it), but today's gay communities are openly and tely unrelated to those of ancient times, and overwhelmingly condemn pederasty and other such acts.

"Even if you weren't spewing a straw man fallacy,gays triggered the hiv epidemic at least in America, prevented the chance of syphilis being eliminated, and triggered another syphilis epidemic."

Again evidence to show this is true and not based on personal emotions.

"All I need to show is gays honor the MALE 'caitlin Jenner' as a FEMALE even though he's clearly a MALE to show that gays believe any man who thinks hes a female is really a female. HE didn't even have a sex change. He's a male who wears female clothing and makeup."

Wrong. Caitlin Jenner is a trangender female, who under went a sex change. It's a She now not a He.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org... " wiki " Caitly...

"Marriage equality is marriage equality. Drawing a line to exclude other marriages violates marriage equality. People who oppose gay marriage drew a line to exclude gay marriages but gays called that violating "marriage equality". Gays are delusional for believing allowing gay marriage is marriage equality when other marriages are excluded. Again, Excluding other types of marriages violates marriage equality in which means allowing gay marriage but not other types of marriages is NOT marriage equality. It can only be RATIONALLY called 'marriage equality' when ALL types of marriages are legal according to the definition of 'equality'"

No wrong again, not all marriages are equal before the law based upon the civil institution of what marriage is. Equality cannot be given to harmful elements that show to be harmful to society. Marriage is to be conducted between two human beings. That's the definition. As I said, homosexuality and same sex marriage does not prove disadvantages to greater social order. Monogamy greats the best environment to raise future generations, that applies to both homo and hetro marriages. Under pros logic, we should resolve the right to live since its not fair that some people kill with others don't. That's not equality because murder is harmful to society.

"Your claim does not change the fact that heterosexuality is the reason why humans exist including gays. If gays did not exist, human existence will continue with no problem. The only major difference is, we probably would have never had an HIV epidemic. If heterosexuals didn't exist, none of us would even be here now."

It's not a claim it's a fact. Yes it's true reproduction can only take place between male and female. That however does not make it the natural state of a species. Homosexuality can be demonstrated to show evolutionary benefits in all organism including humans. Pro must show evidence that HIV epidemic was caused by homosexuals.

"Cannibalism, incest, pedophilia, mental disorders, eating their own dead infants, etc have all been observed in the animal kingdom.like homosexuality, mental disorders are common occurrences. Using your logic, mental disorders and pedophilia haveevolutionary benefits because evolution didn't select against them to wipe them out."

homosexuality occurs in nature; biologists have extensively documented same-sex behavior in over 500 species of animals and observed it in a total of 1,500 species of animals. Bonobos, for example, are known for indulging in almost any "perversion" humanity has thought of " and perhaps some we've missed out on. Mammals aren't the only kind of animal that do this either. Humans are the most evolved organism on the planet with the largest brain to body ratio. Pedophilia, incest are not occurrences in the animal kingdom. It appears pro is making up his own science. Cannibalism is indeed found in the animal kingdom but humans as I said, have developed far beyond are animal counterparts to develop morality and we are morally obliged to frown upon cannibalism in our species. It's also be demonstrated that it is biologically disadvantages.
http://www.healthmap.org...
I have found no empirical evidence pointing to homosexuality being disadvantages to a species in anyway. I use logic in combination with empirical evidence, pro still lags behind in such fashion.

"Not one study shows homophobia is rooted in 'hatred'Unlike homosexuality, scientific studies show disgust has evolutionary benefits."

I typed homophobia on Google and this definition pop up:
Homophobia"is the hatred or fear of homosexuals - that is, lesbians and gay men - sometimes leading to acts of violence and expressions of hostility. Homophobia"is not confined to any one segment of society, and can be found in people from all walks of life.
Evidence shows the contrary to pros definition.
https://www.psychologytoday.com... " blog
www.skeptictank.org " gayhate3
www.sciencedaily.com " 2012/04
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov " pubmed
http://m.medicalxpress.com...
Debate Round No. 2
BlackHomophobicAtheists

Pro

In conclusion,

Con's argument is infested with false information. A combination of biased views, wishful thinking, lack of education, and gay propaganda has led con into a pool of ignorance.

"Pro is classifying homosexuality with unrelated taboo behaviours that lay outside the realm of sexual orientation"

Like pedophilia, incest and bestiality," homosexuality is illegal in many countries. It's been this way for THOUSANDS of years."" Some countries have legalized homosexuality but its only been within the past 50 years." Even among the places where homosexuality is legal, homosexuals are still being violently attacked and in some cases murdered.

People aren't naturally more tolerant of homosexuality." Millions of dollars have been spent just on ads to promote homosexuality. Psychology is being used to gain sympathy for gays. Celebrities are being paid to make homosexuality seem cool. Songs are being promoted on a mass level to gain sympathy for gays. LIES are being told to the masses to trick people into accepting homosexuality."" The truth about Gays such as super high std rates are being swept under the rug. Even the women who claim to embrace homosexuality will not date a bisexual man based on his bisexuality alone.

Being legal for 50 years compared to being illegal for thousands of years is not even a comparison." There is no guarantee that homosexuality will still be legal within the next 100 years.

"Again, pro is classifying homosexuality as a taboo sexual behaviour when it is clearly found in nature"

1. Many species also practice cannibalism, pedophilia and incest. Using your logic, we should embrace incest, pedophilia and cannibalism among humans because animals do it.

2. The human anatomy SPECIFICALLY does not sit well with homosexual behavior. UNLIKE homosexual non-human species, homosexual humans are far more likely to trigger deadly std epidemics, spread deadly STDS and have much higher rates of deadly stds.

"Again evidence to show this is true and not based on personal emotions"

Here's proof that gays literally stopped syphilis from being eliminated and triggered a syphilis epidemic

"Dr. Gail Bolan, director of Centers for Disease Control's Division of STD Prevention, spoke at an event hosted by the National Coalition of STD Directors on April 23, 2015 on Capitol Hill. (CNSNews.com/Penny Starr)"

"We actually had some areas of the country that hadn"t seen a case of syphilis back to the late "90s and early 2000"s, and we thought we had a chance to eliminate this infection but we"re now challenged with this current epidemic," Bolan said.

"That epidemic is also spreading to the larger population, Bolan said, citing data that "reflects men who have sex with both men and women and that clearly has been slowly increasing since 2008."

"In California, Bolan said, there has been an increase in cases of ocular syphilis, which infects the eyes and can cause blindness"

Now, here is proof that gays triggered the HIV epidemic at least in the USA. If not worldwide

timeline of Aids - aids.org
https://www.aids.gov.........

QUOTES

1981

"five young, previously healthy, gay men in Los Angeles. All the men have other unusual infections as well, indicating that their immune systems are not working; two have already died by the time the report is published. This edition of the MMWR marks the first official reporting of what will become known as the AIDS epidemic"

"In addition to reports of cases of PCP and other opportunistic infections among gay men, CDC also receives reports of a cluster of cases of a rare, and unusually aggressive, cancer, Kaposi"s Sarcoma, among a group of gay men in New York and California"

"Gay mens health Crisis Exit Disclaimer, the first community-based AIDS service provider in the U.S., is founded in New York City"

Search on youtube
"NBC'S earliest reports on aids 1982"
Quote
"The lifestyle of homosexual men have triggered an epidemic of a rare disease"

In the documentary "how we got gay", gays themselves admitted that gay liberation led to the HIV epidemic. The gays in this documentary even complained that the government was doing nothing about it because hiv was only infecting gays at the beginning of the epidemic...

In other words, more gay sex led to a deadly STD epidemic in which had a devastating impact on the entire human species.

YouTube search
"How we got gay" documentary

Since only gays were infected, bisexuals likely spreaded it to heterosexuals. It eventually infected people receiving blood donations and the drug addict population.

Copy, paste and Google
"NYC Women With Bisexual Partners Account for 3 in 4 HIV Diagnoses
A new study reports that in New York City, women are now more likely to contract HIV from a male partner who also has sex with men, than from using IV drugs or having sex with someone who does.
BY Diane Anderson-Minshall"

"Biology leaves gay men Highly vulnerable to HIV"
Quote
"The study authors estimate that if receptive anal intercourse were only as risky as vaginal intercourse, HIV cases would fall by 80 percent to 98 percent among gay and bisexual men over five years. They also estimate that cases would fall by 29 percent to 51 percent if more gay and bisexual men had sex in long-term relationships instead of casual encounters"

SOURCES: Chris Beyrer, M.D., MPH, director, Johns Hopkins Fogarty AIDS International Training and Research Program, Baltimore; Patrick Sullivan, DVM, Ph.D., associate professor, Rollins School of Public Health, Emory University, Atlanta; July 20, 2012, The Lancet, online

"Wrong. Caitlin Jenner is a trangender female, who under went a sex change. It's a She now not a He.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org...... " wiki " Caitly"

HE'S still the man according to the definition of sex
sex (seks),
1. The biologic character or quality that distinguishes male and female from one another as expressed by analysis of the person's gonadal, morphologic (internal and external), chromosomal, and hormonal characteristics. Compare: gender.
2. The physiologic and psychological processes within a person that prompt behavior related to procreation or erotic pleasure.
[L. sexus]
Farlex Partner Medical Dictionary " Farlex 2012

"No wrong again, not all marriages are equal before the law based upon the civil institution of what marriage is. Equality cannot be given to harmful elements that show to be harmful to society"

YOUR GAY BRAIN IS THINKING WRONG

The same argument can be made against gay marriage. You're using the exact same argument that people used against gay marriage.

Homosexuality is in fact harmful to society.

I already proved that gays triggered 2 major STD epidemics of which one led to thousands of deaths

"Pro must show evidence that HIV epidemic was caused by homosexuals"

I already have. Scroll up

"homosexuality occurs in nature"

I already debunked this claim. Scroll up.

"Homophobia"is the hatred or fear of homosexuals - that is, lesbians and gay men - sometimes leading to acts of violence and expressions of hostility"

Not even one study shows that homophobes fear gays. Not one person has been diagnosed with homophobia using the basic diagnostic criteria for all phobias.

The truth is, homophobia is a misnomer.

Homophobia is rooted in disgust, not fear (olantunji 2001)
Antonio8877

Con

In conclusion

I find pros arguments rather amusing seeing that it's mostly based on deep seeded hatred towards homosexuals. I have presented evidence countering pros claims yet this is seen as "biased" and "propaganda". This is not the case since pro is blinded by emotional and most likely insecurities which from personal experience is the result of homophobia.

"Like pedophilia, incest and bestiality," homosexuality is illegal in many countries. It's been this way for THOUSANDS of years."" Some countries have legalized homosexuality but its only been within the past 50 years." Even among the places where homosexuality is legal, homosexuals are still being violently attacked and in some cases murdered."

The only cause of this us due to religious institutions and their influence on government. I've already explained why pediophilia and incest are illegal. Before the arrival of Christianity, homosexuality was a common practise through the not only Europe but many district cultures and regions the world over, excluding the the Jewish settlements.

"People aren't naturally more tolerant of homosexuality." Millions of dollars have been spent just on ads to promote homosexuality. Psychology is being used to gain sympathy for gays. Celebrities are being paid to make homosexuality seem cool. Songs are being promoted on a mass level to gain sympathy for gays. LIES are being told to the masses to trick people into accepting homosexuality."" The truth about Gays such as super high std rates are being swept under the rug. Even the women who claim to embrace homosexuality will not date a bisexual man based on his bisexuality alone."

Again religion and ideology are the root cause of this. Pro is confusing promotion with education. The reason being is mentioned by pro in the last line of the first conclusive paragraph. This is nothing more than a conservative rant which is common when faced with the reality of the modern world. Bisexuality is not the topic of discussion, relevance please.

"Being legal for 50 years compared to being illegal for thousands of years is not even a comparison." There is no guarantee that homosexuality will still be legal within the next 100 years."

Evidence please.

I've already responded to (1)
(2) is not true to homosexuals alone. Heterosexuals are not innocent from this either and are just as likely to contract the same std through unprotected sex. Many measures are taken to educate individuals about protecting themselves from stds. Human anatomy is actually suitable with homosexuality, since homosexuals observe all physical and emotional reactions during sex and beyond it. I speak as a first hand witness.
http://m.livescience.com...

"Here's proof that gays literally stopped syphilis from being eliminated and triggered a syphilis epidemic"

Funny. Nowhere in the research does it say homosexuals are directly responsible. Pro is picking bits and pieces from the study to disguise it as an argument against homosexuality where it clearly is not. It is clear that pro also ignores that sex education only looked at heterosexuality at the exclusion of homosexuality. You have the far right wingers to thank for that. Pro is not presenting arguments but rather challenges to the lgbt community. Stds are a reality but pointing fingers against homosexuals as the cause is not an argument but a provocation that has nothing to do with the concept of homosexuality. Pro makes the assertion that disease is synonymous with homosexuality which is a nonsensical since homosexuals are not the only ones who carry the burden due to poor if not absent sex education. Furthermore it remains clear that stds have been present for centuries and are not originally spread by homosexuals despite pros rants.
http://www.news-medical.net...

"HE'S still the man according to the definition of sex"

Pro does not understand a sex change. By removing sex organs and altering anatomy can indeed change gender
http://www.surgeryencyclopedia.com...

"YOUR GAY BRAIN IS THINKING WRONG"

Ad hominem

"Homosexuality is in fact harmful to society.I already proved that gays triggered 2 major STD epidemics of which one led to thousands of deaths"Pro must show evidence that HIV epidemic was caused by homosexuals"I already have. Scroll up"

If pro bothered to read my arguments I gave proper evidence why this is not true and I've already shown why these epidemics are not only bore by the lgbt community nor the cause if it.

"homosexuality occurs in nature"I already debunked this claim. Scrollup."

Pro hasn't debunked this clearly observed fact. Pro only showed other factors observed in the animal kingdom and gave a non sequitur (which I showed).

"Not even one study shows that homophobes fear gays. Not one person has been diagnosed with homophobia using the basic diagnostic criteria for all phobias. The truth is, homophobia is a misnomer.Homophobia is rooted in disgust, not fear (olantunji 2001)"

Perhaps that is why homophobia is not a psychological stimulated phobia but rather a broad social term of deep seeded hatred and discrimination against homosexuality. Examples include biphobia and transphobia.
I've given evidence that disproved the above study, five sources to be exact.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by GoOrDin 1 year ago
GoOrDin
theya re fawked
Posted by Berend 1 year ago
Berend
Nein, he will not.
Posted by 1harderthanyouthink 1 year ago
1harderthanyouthink
I guess you will never learn. Pity.
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