The Instigator
DylanFromSC
Con (against)
Losing
14 Points
The Contender
EnlightenedEntity
Pro (for)
Winning
19 Points

Marijuana is bad.

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EnlightenedEntity
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/6/2010 Category: Politics
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,611 times Debate No: 13286
Debate Rounds (3)
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DylanFromSC

Con

I hope for a good, clean debate - My opponent is extremely 'Con' when it comes to anything involving marijuana. He does not agree that marijuana is useful in any manner, so I took it upon myself to post a debate topic outlining the most generic statement that would successfully describe his views on the 'drug'.

I will start by outlining a few definitions:

Bad - not good in any manner or degree.

Good - satisfactory in quality, quantity, or degree.

Satisfactory - giving or affording satisfaction.

Satisfaction - the act of satisfying; fulfillment; gratification;

Since my opponent will be debating the Pro side, I will let him start the debate.

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EnlightenedEntity

Pro

I would first like to thank my opponent for inviting me to this debate.

Now, if I may change usage of the word "bad" as there are several definitions and I do not want this debate to be won through simple wordplay.

Bad; Having a wicked or evil character; morally reprehensible
Causing or liable to cause sickness or ill health; injurious or harmful
Disobedient, naughty, or misbehaving
Not in keeping with standard or conduct

Since I have the burden of proof I will start with a few small contentions.

Contention 1) Smoking Marijuana is detrimental to the users health.
Marijuana is harmful when smoked, you are inhaling a foreign substance that contains tar and irritates the lungs, not to mention the effects on the brain, and other health issues stemming from Marijuana use.

Some health risk to the lungs include:
1) Coughing and phlegm problems, shortness of breath, and frequent wheezing,
2)Burning and stinging of the mouth and throat
3)Promotion of cancer in the respiratory tract
4)Chronic bronchitis
5)Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease

In fact, some of the short term effects can even cause death! When you smoke Marijuana the users risk of heart attack quadruples within the first hour of smoking, so why risk death just to get "high"?

There are many more negative effects, risk, and reasons as to how Marijuana is bad, though I'll save them for the next round.

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Debate Round No. 1
DylanFromSC

Con

I'd like to thank my opponent for accepting this debate.

Since I started the debate and get to set the parameters, I'd still like to use the original definition of bad:

Bad - not good in any manner or degree.

The object of this debate is for you to prove that Marijuana is not good in any manner or degree. Since you have failed to release any information on how Marijuana is not good in any manner or degree, I'll let you have the next round to do so. However, I will say that Marijuana is good on several accounts:

1) Studies in HIV patients have yielded that those who smoked pot had a greater increase in lymphocytes, the cells which combat disease. <---This is good, yes?
2) Scientists have found that the active ingredient in marijuana can prevent the progression of Alzheimer's disease. <---Good without a doubt..

There are MANY more things that make Marijuana good; however, I would like to see you disprove these before I post any more reasons.

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EnlightenedEntity

Pro

I'd like to thank my opponent for his response,

Now while my opponent may say I have failed to prove that Marijuana is not good in any matter or degree, he has not refuted any of the claims that it is, infact, harmful to users. Now, if something is harmful for you, I hardly see how that is favourable, or 'good', my opponent is simply trying to use wordplay to win this debate.

As I can list several more things that Marijuana negatively impact, I will do so now.
1) The use of Marijuana distorts your perception, reduces coordination, and causes relaxation of the muscles, which would highly impair driving ability, a higher risk of a car accident is in no way, good.
2) It impairs ones ability to learn, and to form new memories, which is in no way good.
3)It destroys tumour-suppressant genes, which help fight cancer.
4)It contains carcinogens, which CAUSE cancer.
5) Users may become lazy, unmotivated, or "burnouts"

Not only has my opponent not provided any evidence to his HIV claim, but my opponent also seems to misunderstand what HIV is, and what Marijuana does.

HIV is short for "Human immunodeficiency virus", meaning their immune system isn't functioning properly. Now, studies have shown that Marijuana is actually an "immunosuppressant"; Regular smoking has been shown to materially affect the overall ability of the smoker's body to defend itself against infection by weakening various natural immune mechanisms, including macrophages (a.k.a. "killer cells") and the all-important T-cells. How harming your immune system while having HIV/AIDs would be beneficial is beyond me.

As for the Alzheimers theory, the study my opponent linked is nearly four years old, while newer research shows no benefits from smoking Marijuana in relation to Alzheimers. Furthermore, it has infact been proven to be the OPPOSITE, instead actually causing harm instead of health!

Unless my opponent can refute the claims of it having no good effect on the lungs, brain, heart, etcetera, then I shall assume he concedes to my points that it is 'bad' by his very narrow definition.I eagerly wait for my opponents response, and I urge a vote on the Pro side of this argument, thank you.

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Debate Round No. 2
DylanFromSC

Con

DylanFromSC forfeited this round.
EnlightenedEntity

Pro

My opponent was last online 7 hours ago, and has forfeited this debate for the second time. He has in no way proven Marijuana to be 'good' or beneficial in any manner or degree, and lacks supporting evidence on many of his arguments. I therefore assume he concedes that Marijuana is 'bad'. Vote pro, and thank you for following this debate.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by DylanFromSC 6 years ago
DylanFromSC
I don't scream. You were asserting that I basically know nothing. So we'll put it to the test. I KNOW I could've won this by definition. That's why I totally changed the topic. Marijuana related. 5 rounds. It'll serve me better in the end.
Posted by EnlightenedEntity 6 years ago
EnlightenedEntity
You have three days in between each post, we copied and pasted all our arguments, all you ahd to do is write ONE for round three. In between work, studying, college, and friends, I STILL find time to atleast check the status on this site. I'll accept your invite as soon as I have the time, and respond to your arguments when I find time aswell. The thing is knowing how much time you have left and not letting it run out. Are you sure the debate you challenged me to is the one you want? You don't want to narrow it down to an economical argument to where you can win? I never said THC/Marijuana was good for nothing, yet you tried to force me to say it in this debate. All you even had to say is that it helped re leave pain/increase appetite and you could have won with your limited definition. I'm not taking these seriously either, but I think it's stupid that you let your rounds go to waste and such when I see you on Facebook for hours on end. I think it's funny how you're so sure that you can win, there are great arguments on BOTH sides, it's whoever screams the loudest and makes it sound the prettiest that wins, and I personally think that my arguments will be more appealing by societies standards.
Posted by DylanFromSC 6 years ago
DylanFromSC
COLE, I didn't have a week to write a response. I had 3 days.. And those three days started close to the weekend. I'm not gonna post ONE round of a debate that would prove nothing, the final round, for nothing.. If you SERIOUSLY think that you can beat me in a debate about Marijuana, I'll write you up a SERIOUS debate. I've been taking these very lightly. I think it's funny how you accuse me of having nothing to say, but if you're gonna be an a*shole about it, I'll REALLY debate you. Here comes in the invite.

Sorry for having things to do on the weekend. (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) Considering it WAS homecoming week last week, and there WAS a homecoming game on Friday, and I WAS with my girlfriend and family all weekend, and my dad DID visit whom I haven't seen since last year because he works so much. Also, when I'm at my girlfriends house, I can't get the internet... Sorry.. Sorry I couldn't squeeze some time for pure statistic on this site.. My bad. Don't worry though, your debate is coming. This time though, don't expect me to let you win. If I have to, I'll go to Starbucks or something this weekend. I'm inviting you to a 7 or so round debate.
Posted by EnlightenedEntity 6 years ago
EnlightenedEntity
TheCalmOne - This is the SECOND chance he has had at this exact same debate, and has had the duration of all three of his arguments to write ONE response (round three). I believe you misrepresent this 'mishap' - I told him not to let his timer run out for a second time since we copied and pasted all our arguments form our last debate when he has 20 hours on the clock. He got on, obviously has nothing to say, and got off. I know you two are friends, looking at Dylan's debate record I can see you vote in his favour on most all of his debate, but don't let favouritism blind you, least you think that this was all an accident.

Dylan - You had a whole WEEK to write ONE response, it's obvious you had nothing to say. You can sit there and surf Facebook for hours, but you can't put ten minutes into a response? No, we do this here. I've argued with EVERYONE on Facebook about this, and have to restrain myself when you post status's about it, just so I don't get into an argument. You couldn't prove it beneficial in any manner, and hell, with your limited definition, it couldn't have been that hard to do.
Posted by TheCalmOne 6 years ago
TheCalmOne
I think that this young man is a VERY well informed debater, however, he has a life and can't reply every second of the day. I say that he knows what he's talking about and should be given another chance. Look at his record.. It should not be ruined because of such a.. Mishap.
Posted by DylanFromSC 6 years ago
DylanFromSC
I never have enough time for these debates. :/ I'll have to debate on Facebook messaging or something. This time limit is killing me.
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