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Marvel would beat DC in a fight

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Started: 5/1/2016 Category: Movies
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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kennykenkenken

Pro

My argument is that in a fight where every single marvel being against every single DC being, each respective side working together, marvel will win. The format is:

1. Format and my basic argument
1. Acceptance and basic argument (with no proof)
2. My argument
2. Rebuttal and counterargument
3. Rebuttal and counterargument
3. Rebuttal and counterargument
4. Final arguments
4. Final arguments
Overhead

Con

I accept this debate.

The basic argument that I will make in the following rounds is that both universes contain characters who are omnipotent. While not main characters, they still are characters which count as per PRO R1 which references "beings" rather than just superheroes (as many of these are cosmic entities or forces who don't go around in tights fighting crime).

Thus arguments revolving around whether Hulk could beat Superman or Batman could beat Captain America and the like are therefore irrelevant and inconsequential and the only thing that really matters is these omnipotent cosmic beings seeing as it is their actions that are decisive. As they are omnipotent and therefore by definition one can't be overpowered or beaten, it would therefore be a draw and Marvel would NOT beat DC in a fight.
Debate Round No. 1
kennykenkenken

Pro

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Overhead

Con

Omnipotence

DC contains ombipotent beings. Notably in one of its series, Lucifer (as well as other religious themed series like Spectre), has had God appear, by which I mean the omnipotent and omniscient judeo-Christian Yaweh[1].

By definition nothing can overpower an omnipotent being, so it is impossible for the DC universe to be beaten in a fight.

On a more meta take on omnipotence, DC has also featured its writers as characters on occasion, see for instance Grant Morrison appearing to speak to his character in the finale of his lauded Animal Man run - where he literally controls everything (because he of course is the writer who has total control over what happens).

Superhero power levels

If that argument doesn't float your boat for whatever reason, i would still argue that the superheroes and supervillains themselves are more powerful in DC than Marvel.

Superman generally holds back. When he doesn't he can do things like destroy moons in a split second.[3] Marvel is a universe where the power scales are more along "lift a car" for the weaker superheroes to "lift a large building" for the stronger ones.

Even with other powers, like speed, DC does better. Marvel's resident speedster, Quicksilver, tends to run at multiples of the speed of sound which will change depending on the writer. Here's him being mentioned as running at Mach 5. [4] Flash on the other hand can push light speed [5].

Put simply, when a villain in Marvel (like Dark Phoenix or Galactus) has the power to destroy worlds, that's big news. In DC that's tuesday and to get them to worry you need to bring out the characters who destroy entire universes.

I'd also note that I actually prefer Marvel to DC, but the quality of the writing has no bearing on how powerful the characters on.

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Debate Round No. 2
kennykenkenken

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Overhead

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
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