Marxism needs to be retried
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So my opinion about Marxism is a downright no!
Now you"re wondering why it could not work"
Yes, it could work in a perfect world, but face it, it isn"t one, so I will take all you"re your rules in account expect one human greed, because if you left that out then yeah Marxism would work but there is still other things to consider.
So we will imagine there is a group of people (about 10 million, for example) that want to follow a person like Lenin we will call him Artyom for now so we could go 2 ways with this Artyom is a leader of our glorious nation of Arstotzka or he is a party leader.
First scenario party leader:
Artyom would need a considerable time to rise to power like Lenin did, but for that to happen, he would need a big depression or the quality of life
Now about Artyom. There are many ways Artyom can seize power. There is the political party way of course, but that requires many months of hard work and dedication which uses valuable time. However, another way Artyom could gain control is by force. If enough people join together in true comradeship, this oppressive government could be overthrown and reinstated as a Marxist society. This revolution could be backed by other Communist societies.
here it the problem your forgetting human greed and the magnitude of recourses needed to keep every one happy even if you gave every one the same amount of food it would not work if you have 10 fish and 20 people, every one get a half of the fish, but that too little what I mean is that there are simply too little resources for a big pipeline the sustain itself and be happy also some families need more like a family whit Children need more fish so the children can grow, but you can't do that you must still give the same amount to every one see that what I mean to take control Artyom needs to seize power and like you said the issues way is by force they did that already in the soviet revolution by killing hunderde a thousand people you must never forget there are other people who think differently than you
now about the second part: immigration could work but then the living standard need to be higher than in other countries in depends: that would create a very bloody war where most likely the rebels would lose or you must send our troops for our glorious nation of Arstotzka to support them
and as last propaganda yes that could work but again your living standards needs to be better than the other country to have a efect
And immigrants could go anywhere, they could drive to neighboring countries or fly to first world economic powerhouses. Fights and drives could be provided by miners doing their alternative jobs. Of course, it would be miles cheaper and easier to simply persuade the people with propaganda.
Also, if every one joins the fight thenwho will provide food will they go 3 hours to war and then go back to the farm and then again to war your army would starve? also about the teacher treu thy were religious leaders, but remember the education was only for the rich because of the small number of priests also they would influence their believes whit their teaching
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