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benko12345678
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mashi
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Marxist Dialectic Materialism is in complete opposition of Hegelian dialectic idealism

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Started: 10/9/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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benko12345678

Pro

In this debate I establish that:
Karl Marx's concept of Dialectical materialism is loosely based on Hegel's dialectic idealism.

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Round 2:Opening argument
Round 3:Rebuttals
Round 4:Closing remarks and final rebuttals
mashi

Con

I wish to prove Pro wrong.
Debate Round No. 1
benko12345678

Pro

1. In 'Capital' Marx says he intends to use Hegelian dialectics but in revised form. He defends Hegel against those who view him as a "dead dog" and then says, "I openly avowed myself as the pupil of that mighty thinker." Marx credits Hegel with "being the first to present dialectic's form of working in a comprehensive and conscious manner". [1]

2. Dialectical Materialism is entirely based on the material world. A study of inter-social interactions. For example, what constitutes a king? The crown? The scepter?
Dialectical Materialism states that the process of dialectics is fluid, not a middle point or ending point. A study of the material world. The material world effects the mind, not vice-versa.[2]

3. For Marx, human history cannot be fitted into any neat a priori schema. He explicitly rejects the idea of Hegel's followers that history can be understood as a person apart, a metaphysical subject of which real human individuals are but the bearers.[3]

4. Dialectical Idealism is based entirely on the study of the world of ideas. Hegel states that someone's mind influences the material world. According to Hegel, if humans believed they could fly, they could. [4]

5. By definition alone, these two terms are opposite. It's a simple argument. I hope you will refute it.

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[2]https://www.marxists.org...
[3]http://www.britannica.com...
[4]http://www.crossroad.to...
mashi

Con

mashi forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
mashi

Con

mashi forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
mashi

Con

mashi forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by benko12345678 2 years ago
benko12345678
lol
Posted by benko12345678 2 years ago
benko12345678
Woo, nother win for the B-man
Posted by benko12345678 2 years ago
benko12345678
Well then I win by default :P
Posted by mashi 2 years ago
mashi
Why did I even click on this? I resign. I cannot debate against something that is true. I cannot even fathom the amount of misery I would have put myself through by trying to debate this.
Posted by benko12345678 2 years ago
benko12345678
Since the resolution is obviously true, my argument was sort.
Posted by mashi 2 years ago
mashi
Good luck
Posted by benko12345678 2 years ago
benko12345678
True, the resolution was awkwardly worded. I will explain what I mean in the actual debate
Posted by Jonbonbon 2 years ago
Jonbonbon
Your resolution and actual topic mean different things. Opposition is opposed to (so in other words conflicting or against), and complete implies that they are conflicting in every manner. You're actually arguing that one is loosely based on the other. I mean, it's an interesting topic. You just had awkward wording.
Posted by benko12345678 2 years ago
benko12345678
Thank you :P
Posted by kasmic 2 years ago
kasmic
Interesting topic.
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Vote Placed by lannan13 2 years ago
lannan13
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