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Hayd
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ScarlettPrecious
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May Beginner's Tournament Round 1: Should Alcohol Be Banned?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/11/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Hayd

Con




ScarlettPrecious and I have decided to debate whether or not alcohol should be banned in the United States. We would be referring to the beverage state of alcohol (E.g. Wine, Beer, etc.) opposed to rubbing alcohol and other uses.



I as Con, will be arguing that no, alcohol should not be banned, and ScarlettPrecious will be arguing that yes, there should be a ban on alcohol.



Specifically the ban would be on the possession of alcohol, and the purchasing of alcohol. To make this debate orderly, I have included a round structure to be followed.



Round Structure:



Round 1: Acceptance only



Round 2: Arguments only



Round 3: Rebuttals



Round 4: Counter-Rebuttals



Let the debating begin!






ScarlettPrecious

Pro

I accept this debate. I look forward to debating with Hayd. I agree to all the structures of rounds and just to confirm, I do believe that alcohol should be banned.
I wish good luck to you, Hayd and all other participants in this May Beginner's Debate Competition!
Debate Round No. 1
Hayd

Con

As this is Round 2, I will be presenting my arguments that will be the foundation of my side of the debate.

A1:

“Moderate drinking seems to be good for the heart and circulatory system, and probably protects against type 2 diabetes and gallstones… More than 100 prospective studies show an inverse association between moderate drinking and risk of heart attack, ischemic (clot-caused) stroke, peripheral vascular disease, sudden cardiac death, and death from all cardiovascular causes. The effect is fairly consistent, corresponding to a 25 percent to 40 percent reduction in risk.”(1)

Consuming alcohol at a moderate rate has numerous health benefits. Of course abusing alcohol can lead to problems but so can anything else. Drinking too much water can kill you, eating too much will make you fat which is very unhealthy. Anything abused can turn bad, this does not exclude alcohol. Banning alcohol would lead to a decrease in health among American citizens.

A2:

The ratification of the 18th Amendment to the Constitution outlawed the making, selling, and transportation of liquor in the United States. This period is known as the Prohibition, the Amendment lasted for 13 years, 1920-1933, see (2) for more information. The passing of this amendment led to major increase in violence and crime. As you can see in the graph, the years that there was Prohibition (1920-1933) there is a substantial increase in homicidal rates. (3)

If we can learn anything from the past, we can assume that banning alcohol again would lead to similar results. Therefore we can conclude that a ban on alcohol will most likely lead to an increase in murders, an increase in crime, an increase in violence, will create organized crime, and other nasty affects.

A3:

In this argument I will demonstrate how a ban on alcoholic beverages would violate our rights.

In the Declaration of Independence it reads,

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness(4)

By creating a ban on alcohol, you would then be violating people’s pursuit of happiness.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” (5)

By creating a ban on alcohol, you would be violating the rights of Christian churches to exercise their right to perform communion (eating wine and bread).

Conclusion:

I conclude that we should not have a ban on alcohol because of health benefits, correlation to crime, and violation of rights. I look forward to my opponent’s arguments and would like to wish her the best of luck in the tournament. To my opponent and anyone reading this thank you!

I will end this response with a quote from Thomas Jefferson,

"If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."

Citations:

(1) http://www.hsph.harvard.edu...

(2) http://www.history.com...

(3) http://www.nber.org...

(4) http://www.archives.gov...

(5) https://www.law.cornell.edu...

ScarlettPrecious

Pro

It is my strong belief that alcohol should be banned.

Contention 1: Health of the consumer

Alcohol contains a systematic chemical termed ethanol. Ethanol is a colourless, volatile, flammable liquid that is the intoxicating agent in liquors. This chemical is found in every alcoholic beverage. By consuming alcohol, it can disturb any part of the human body thinkable. In this first contention, I will be examining the effects on the brain, the heart and the pancreas.
Firstly, when one consumes alcohol, it causes interference in the brain"s pathways. This leads to the brain having problems or working slow. For example, the brain would give certain glitches such as hallucinations and would eventually lead to changes in normal moods and behaviours.
Secondly, the heart is impaired from short-term excessive drinking or from long-term drinking. Some complications are arrhythmia, high blood pressure and cardiomyopathy. Arrhythmias are caused because alcohol damages the heart beat as it decreases the rate of intellectual ability and causes irregular heart beats as blood flowing through the heart either slows down or speeds up. Ingesting alcohol also leads to many strokes. "In the United States, each year about 795,000 people suffer from strokes." According to this people in America are those who consume alcohol and they agonize.
Thirdly, alcohol can cause the pancreas to react differently and strangely because it is not aware and accustomed to the chemicals found in the beverage. This can lead to an infection called pancreatitis, which affects the blood vessels located in the pancreas so much so that they swell. Eventually, this can lead to indigestion. Please click on the number 1 link in the "photographs" section at the bottom to see what it looks like.
Lastly, not only does alcohol have a turning effect on these vital parts of the body but it also can cause cancer in the mouth, oesophagus, throat, liver, breast and immune system. Additionally, if the liver and pancreas does not work properly, the consumer is more reliable to develop hypoglycaemia. Hypoglycaemia occurs when the pancreas is damaged and the body is unable to use sugar due to a lack of insulin allowing the body to function at its normal rate and conditions.

http://www.cdc.gov...
The above link is a table showing all the different ways alcohol can affect someone based on the quantity the person has induced. Please view it before moving on to the next contention.

Contention 2- Accidents caused through drunk driving

Drunk driving or drinking and driving is termed as "one is driving under the influence of alcohol." This had been a major cause in accidents that have occurred in the past.

According to the Centre of Disease Control and Prevention, "in 2012, 10,322 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (31%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States," this shows how much of the American population have gotten into accidents due to drunk driving.

Also, alcohol mainly targets teenagers between the ages of 13 to 17 years of age. Predominantly, when teenagers get drunk, whatever party or wherever they are dies down, they try to go somewhere else, which will result (85% of the times) in accidents. The probability that a minor gets into an accident is much greater than that of an adult.

Contention 3- Family Consequences
According to the National Institute of Alcohol, Abuse and Alcoholism, more than 10% of children in United States live with abusive parents.

Contention 4- Influence on College or High School Students

Alcohol is quite intoxicating. It can be used under stressful conditions or even for recreational reasons.
The following points are information that was recently researched by the National Institute of Alcohol and Abuse.

Consequences: Researchers estimate in 2014:
"1,825 college students between the ages of 18 and 24 die from alcohol-related unintentional injuries, including motor-vehicle crashes.

"696,000 students between the ages of 18 and 24 are assaulted by another student who has been drinking.

"97,000 students between the ages of 18 and 24 report experiencing alcohol-related sexual assault or date rape.

"Roughly 20 percent of college students meet the criteria for an AUD.

"About 1 in 4 college students report academic consequences from drinking, including missing class, falling behind in class, doing poorly on exams or papers, and receiving lower grades overall.

Photographs:
1.http://www.physio-pedia.com... - This is what a swollen pancreas looks like.

2.http://oceanbreezerecovery.org... - This is a photograph giving some statistics on drunk or impaired driving.

Sources:
"https://www.nichd.nih.gov...
"http://www.niaaa.nih.gov...
"https://www.drinkaware.co.uk...
"http://www.cdc.gov...
"http://www.cdc.gov...
"http://www.cdc.gov...

Term sources:
"http://www.merriam-webster.com...
"http://us.reachout.com...
Debate Round No. 2
Hayd

Con

Thank you for your arguments @ScarlettPrecious. Now that it is Round 3, it is time to post our rebuttals.

Contention 1 Rebuttal:

In this argument, Pro presents various health concerns regarding the intake of alcohol. She breaks it up into three different parts; therefore I will focus on each individually.

  1. “Firstly, when one consumes alcohol, it causes interference in the brain"s pathways. This leads to the brain having problems or working slow. For example, the brain would give certain glitches such as hallucinations and would eventually lead to changes in normal moods and behaviours.”

ScarlettPrecious failed to mention that these minor health effects are only temporary and disappear a day or so later. As I mentioned in Round 2, everything has a bad side; eating too much food will lead to obesity or diabetes, which is fatal to your health, too much sunshine can lead to skin cancer. Alcohol is not exempt from this, it is not a surprise that is has a dark side too, but that does not mean we should ban it.

  1. Secondly, the heart is impaired from short-term excessive drinking or from long-term drinking. Some complications are arrhythmia, high blood pressure and cardiomyopathy. Arrhythmias are caused because alcohol damages the heart beat as it decreases the rate of intellectual ability and causes irregular heart beats as blood flowing through the heart either slows down or speeds up. Ingesting alcohol also leads to many strokes. ‘In the United States, each year about 795,000 people suffer from strokes.’ According to this people in America are those who consume alcohol and they agonize.”

These symptoms only apply to “excessive drinking” or “long-term drinking.” As I have pointed out in my argument; moderate drinking is actually very good for your health. It is only when you start abusing alcohol that it becomes bad.

Even in your link where you got the statistics, it only mentioned alcohol once. And it read, “Additional Risk Factors Include: Drinking too much alcohol” (https://www.nichd.nih.gov...)

  1. “Thirdly, alcohol can cause the pancreas to react differently and strangely because it is not aware and accustomed to the chemicals found in the beverage. This can lead to an infection called pancreatitis, which affects the blood vessels located in the pancreas so much so that they swell. Eventually, this can lead to indigestion.”

Again this only applies to heavy drinking, in the link where ScarlettPrecious got here information, it reads,

Drinking too much – on a single occasion or over time – can take a serious toll on your health. Here’s how alcohol can affect your body:”(goes on to list pancreatitis)

http://www.niaaa.nih.gov...

  1. “Lastly, not only does alcohol have a turning effect on these vital parts of the body but it also can cause cancer in the mouth, oesophagus, throat, liver, breast and immune system. Additionally, if the liver and pancreas does not work properly, the consumer is more reliable to develop hypoglycaemia. Hypoglycaemia occurs when the pancreas is damaged and the body is unable to use sugar due to a lack of insulin allowing the body to function at its normal rate and conditions.”

Again, where ScarlettPrecious got her information it read,

Drinking too much alcohol can increase your risk of developing certain cancers, including cancers of the: Mouth, Esophagus, Throat, Liver, Breast.”http://www.niaaa.nih.gov...

These symptoms only occur when heavy drinking is done.

Almost all of the health diagnoses that ScarlettPrecious presented only occur when extreme heavy drinking is done. Yet as I have proven in my arguments; moderate drinking is actually very good for your health.

Contention 2:

In this argument, ScarlettPrecious brings up drunk driving. It basically runs like this;

  1. Alcohol makes it dangerous to drive.

  2. This leads to more car crashes.

  3. This would not happen if there wasn’t alcohol.

  4. C: Alcohol should be banned.

This is a logical fallacy called, False Dichotomy (also referred to as False Dilemma). This is brought up in an argument to give the illusion that there are only two possibilities. (E.g. “If you want better public schools, you have to raise taxes. If you don’t want to raise taxes you can’t have better public schools.” (to learn more go tohttp://c2.com...)

ScarlettPrecious is stating that, “There would be less car crashes if alcohol was banned. If you don’t want to ban alcohol more people will die.” ScarlettPrecious gives the illusion that banning alcohol is the only way to prevent further deaths (via under the influence car crashes.) This is not the case.

ScarlettPrecious ignores the fact that we can educate teens and adults about the dangers of driving under the influence. New technologies could prevent the driver from driving without passing an intoxication test. Automatic cars (self-driven) could be made which would not depend on whether or not the passenger is intoxicated. There are millions of other solutions that could solve this problem; ScarlettPrecious is wrong in the conclusion to ban alcohol because of drunk driving.

Contention 3:

In this argument, ScarlettPrecious writes one sentence, and it is about the statistics of abuse in the US. ScarlettPrecious does not actually state how this relates to alcohol, or why this means that alcohol should be banned, but I assume that she meant that alcohol is the cause of abuse.

So we should really think; would the parents still abuse their child if they didn’t have alcohol? Are parents only abusing their children only because of alcohol, or just because they are bad parents?

This is also a false dichotomy because there are other solutions to this problem other than banning alcohol. There are many programs out there that take the children away from their parents and are becoming very successful at it.

Contention 4:

In this argument, ScarlettPrecious brings up a whole bunch of statistics about alcohol and issues in teenagers.

Why should responsible users of alcohol be punished because of the other few people that use it irresponsibly? If it is because other it brings harm to other people, Prohibition brought about a lot more crime, and even more people would get hurt.

As long as alcohol is used responsibly and in moderation, it is not a problem.

Conclusion:

I have done a rebuttal on all of ScarlettPrecious’s arguments, and it is now time for her to do rebuttals of my arguments. I look forward to what ScarlettPrecious will bring to the table and look forward to the rest of the debate. To my opponent and anybody reading this, thank you!






ScarlettPrecious

Pro

ScarlettPrecious forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
Hayd

Con

Sadly, things sometimes get in the way of debates. ScarlettPrecious was studying for exams and taking exams this entire week and did not have time to do her rebuttals. I am therefore excusing this forfeit. Scarlett Precious will post her rebuttals in Round 4, we will be removing the "counter-rebuttlals" part of the debate. Good luck!
ScarlettPrecious

Pro

ScarlettPrecious forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by ScarlettPrecious 1 year ago
ScarlettPrecious
I would like to apologize to anyone reading this debate and also to my opponent. These past few days have been very busy ones for myself. I would have loved to argue with Hayd, however, I was time-constrained with exams and school activities.
I would like to thank Hayd however for trying his best to accommodate me in the rebuttal round, at least. I would also like to wish him good luck in the remaining tournament.
I once again apologize.

~ScarlettPrecious
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