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Meat, dairy, and eggs should be banned worldwide.

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Started: 11/26/2015 Category: Society
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Stupidape

Pro

Resolution: Meat, dairy, and eggs should be banned worldwide.

This is a normative resolution.

I Pro will contend for the resolution.
Con will contend against the resolution.

Meat " the flesh of an animal used as food" [1]

Dairy "Full Definition of DAIRY
1
: a room, building, or establishment where milk is kept and butter or cheese is made
2
a : the department of farming or of a farm that is concerned with the production of milk, butter, and cheese
b : a farm devoted to such production
3
: an establishment for the sale or distribution chiefly of milk and milk products "[2]

Eggs " the egg of a bird (especially a chicken) eaten as food"[3]

Ban "

: to forbid people from using (something) : to say that something cannot be used or done

: to forbid (someone) from doing or being part of something
"[4]

Some have fear of a one world government. This doesn't have to be the case. Individual nations and states could ban meat, eggs, and dairy. Similar to every state seems to have traffic ordinances. Thank you for taking the time to read this debate.

Links
1. http://www.merriam-webster.com...
2. http://www.merriam-webster.com...
3. http://www.merriam-webster.com...
4. http://www.merriam-webster.com...
Forever23

Con

Hello, ladies, gentlemen, judges my name is Forever 23 and I am here to bring forth the premise which is that we should not ban all meat, dairy and eggs.

So my roadmap will include divulging 3 of my own points since the pro has introduces none.

My first assertion is that meat, eggs and dairy are required to maintain a healthy diet. What kind of diet if without meat, eggs and dairy? A diet that will cause life long health and eating problems. Without eggs, meat and dairy, people will suffer due to mal nutrition. http://authoritynutrition.com... quality, unprocessed meat is among the most nutritious foods in the world.
A 100 gram portion (3.5 ounces) of raw ground beef contains large amounts of Vitamin B12, B3 (Niacin), B6, Iron, Zinc, Selenium and plenty of other vitamins and minerals (5).
Vitamin B12 is particularly important because it can not be gotten in ANY amount from plants. Studies show that out of vegans who don"t supplement with B12, 92% are deficient in this critical nutrient (6).
Unprocessed meat is also loaded with healthy fats, but meat from grass-fed animals contains up to 5 times as much Omega-3 as meat from grain-fed animals (7, 8, 9). Milk and dairy products contain many nutrients and provide a quick and easy way of supplying these nutrients to the diet within relatively few calories. Creatine forms an energy reserve in the muscles and brain and is found only in animal foods. Vegetarians are deficient in creatine, leading to reduced physical and mental performance (10, 11, 12, 13).
"Carnosine functions as a powerful anti-oxidant and provides protection against many degenerative processes. Carnosine is only found in animal foods (14, 15, 16).
"DHA and EPA are the active forms of Omega-3 in the human body and found primarily in animal foods. The body is inefficient at converting ALA (the plant form of Omega-3) to the active forms (17, 18, 19).
This is really just the tip of the iceberg. There is an immense amount of important trace nutrients in both plants and animals, some of which science has yet to uncover.
http://www.milk.co.uk...
Milk, cheese and yogurt all provide the following beneficial nutrients in varying quantities.
"Calcium - for healthy bones and teeth
"Phosphorous - for energy release
"Magnesium - for muscle function
"Protein - for growth and repair
"Vitamin B12 - for production of healthy cells
"Vitamin A - for good eyesight and immune function
"Zinc - for immune function
"Riboflavin - for healthy skin
"Folate - for production of healthy cells
"Vitamin C - for formation of healthy connective tissues.
"Iodine - for regulation of the body's rate of metabolism (how quickly the body burns energy and the rate.
http://authoritynutrition.com... single large boiled egg contains (1):
"Vitamin A: 6% of the RDA.
"Folate: 5% of the RDA.
"Vitamin B5: 7% of the RDA.
"Vitamin B12: 9% of the RDA.
"Vitamin B2: 15% of the RDA.
"Phosphorus: 9% of the RDA.
"Selenium: 22% of the RDA.
"Eggs also contain decent amounts of Vitamin D, Vitamin E, Vitamin K, Vitamin B6, Calcium and Zinc.
All of these are extremely important in order to sustain a healthy life style. Without these, people may develop eating disorders and a ban on eggs, milk and meat worldwide could lead to other consequences.

My second assertion is that most of the population consumes these products. Most of the people in the world (if they have money and resources) consume meat one way or another. And as long as the majority buys meat, we can by no means ban it. In addition, there are workers and farmers relying on the meat, dairy and eggs industry. The meat and poultry industry is the largest segment of U.S. agriculture. Total meat and poultry production in 2012 reached more than 93 billion pounds. https://www.meatinstitute.org...
In 2013, the meat and poultry industry processed:8.6 billion chickens 33.2 million cattle 239.4 million turkeys 2.3 million sheep and lambs 112 million hogs. In 2013, American meat companies produced:25.8 billion pounds of beef23.2 billion pounds of pork5.8 billion pounds of turkey286 million pounds of veal, lamb and mutton 38.4 billion pounds of chicken.
In 2013, more than 482,100 workers were employed in the meat and poultry packing and processing industries. Their combined salaries total more than $19 billion.
Through its production and distribution linkages, the meat and poultry industry impacts firms in all 509 sectors of the U.S. economy, in every state and every congressional district in the country.
In all, companies involved in meat production, along with their suppliers, distributors, retailers and ancillary industries employ 6.2 million people in the U.S. with jobs that total $200 billion in wages.
Through direct taxes paid, these companies and their employees provide $81.2 billion in revenues to federal, state and local governments. The consumption of meat and poultry generates $2.4 billion in state sales taxes.
The meat and poultry industry's economic ripple effect generates $864.2 billion annually to the U.S. economy, or roughly 6% of the entire GDP.
In 2014, meat and poultry industry sales totaled $186 billion.
Stopping the meat egg and dairy industry would take the jobs of millions.

Now, this is my most prominent assertion and is based on the feasibility of this topic. It is impossible to issue a world wide ban. Every single country will not agree to ban meat, dairy and eggs. Even if we are trying to reach the peak of morality here, no other nation will agree to this. According to https://www.meatinstitute.org..., there have been only 4 or 5 worldwide bans. And all of those were very detrimental to the economy and the people. Meat, dairy and eggs will never be issued.

As the conclusion of each of my speeches, I will talk about the benefits of each of the foods mention. I will start with meat. In my second speech- dairy. In my third speech- eggs,

So I quote directly from http://healthyeating.sfgate.com...,

Protein

The protein you consume each day supplies your body with a pool of amino acids, which are the building blocks of protein molecules. Your cells use these amino acids to synthesize new proteins as you need them " for example, to build muscle tissue, manufacture antibodies or replace red blood cells. Of the 20 amino acids in proteins, your body can make 11 of them. The other nine, known as essential amino acids, must be included in the foods you eat to avoid a protein deficiency. Meat is important in your diet because it is a protein-rich food that supplies you with all the essential amino acids you need for good health.

Minerals

In addition to offering significant protein, meat provides a wide variety of minerals to support the optimal functioning of your cells and tissues. For instance, it is an important source of both iron and zinc. Iron helps carry oxygen to and throughout your tissues, while zinc is required for a strong immune system, wound healing and enzyme activity within your cells. The phosphorus content of meat helps keep your bones strong, the sulfur it contains can be incorporated into new amino acids and the chromium found in meat assists in metabolizing your dietary sugars.

Vitamins

A number of B vitamins are available from the meat you consume. Thiamine, riboflavin, niacin, pantothenic acid and biotin help your cells extract energy from the foods you eat each day. Vitamin B-6 keeps your nervous and circulatory systems healthy, and it functions in both protein synthesis and protein metabolism. This vitamin also assists in the absorption of vitamin B-12, another vitamin essential for circulatory and nerve health, as well as energy production. Meat is an especially important source of vitamin B-12, because, unlike other B vitamins, B-12 is not found in any plant-based foods.

Fats

Although you need a limited supply of fats in your diet for good health, the saturated fats found in meat can be detrimental to your well-being. Consuming high levels of saturated fats can increase your risk of atherosclerosis, a condition in which plaque deposits form on the walls of your arteries, and can lead to heart disease. Taking in too many dietary fats, such as from fatty cuts of meat, can result in accumulation of fat stores in and around your organs, causing eventual organ damage. High fat intake can also lead to an increased risk of obesity and diabetes. Selecting lean cuts of meat and trimming off excess fat help minimize the harmful effects of meat while allowing you to benefit from its rich nutrient content.

Dear judges, if you are looking to be healthy and happy, vote pro.

If you do NOT wish to suffer of health diseases. Vote pro.

If you want to stay you. Vote pro.

Thank you.
Debate Round No. 1
Stupidape

Pro

Outline

I. Intro
II. Why meat, eggs, and dairy should be banned worldwide.
III. Rebuttal of Con
IV. Links

I. Intro

First, to reiterate the resolution. Resolution: Meat, dairy, and eggs should be banned worldwide. Con makes the statement below which confuses who is Pro and who is Con. Pro is the person that wants meat, eggs, and dairy to be banned worldwide. Con is the person who rejects the resolution and contends for no change to take place.

"Dear judges, if you are looking to be healthy and happy, vote pro.

If you do NOT wish to suffer of health diseases. Vote pro.

If you want to stay you. Vote pro.

Thank you."

Con has an identity crisis. I am Pro and Con is Con.

II. Why meat, eggs, and dairy should be banned worldwide.

Meat, eggs, and dairy should be banned worldwide because they are unhealthy to consume, production causes excessive environmental damage, production causes animal cruelty, and production agitates world hunger.

Claim 1: Meat, eggs, and dairy are unhealthy to consume.

Warrant 1: These products contain excess amounts of fat, saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein. While lacking antioxidants, fiber, and phytonutrients. Eating animal products displaces healthy food.

Impact: Meat, eggs, and dairy are unhealthy and displace healthy food and should be banned.

Claim 2: Production of animal products causes excessive environmental damage.

Warrant 2: "Many fishing practices are extremely destructive to delicate habitats - particularly vital fish breeding grounds like coral reefs and seagrass meadows."[5]. "The cattle sector in the Brazilian Amazon is the largest driver of deforestation in the world, responsible for one in every eight hectares destroyed globally. Efforts to halt global deforestation emissions must tackle this sector. "[6].

Impact 2: Production of meat, eggs, and dairy causes excessive environmental damage and should be banned.

Claim 3: production causes animal cruelty

Warrant 3: "At 18 months of age, a fraction of a chicken's life span, these hens were considered spent, unable to produce eggs at a fast enough rate, and they were scheduled for slaughter. All 100 of them bore the physical and psychological scars of an entire young life spent in the crowded confines of a sunless, windowless, ammonia-filled cement shed. Even after weeks of sanctuary life, many are still in a state of constant terror, still panicking at the drop of a leaf, still cowering at the smallest noise, as if hit by a physical blow to the body. " [7].

Impact 3: If free range chickens are treated this way, cage-free and battery cage chickens must suffer even more. Deliberately and intentionally causing animal suffering is immoral.

Claim 4: production agitates world hunger

Warrant 4: "Meat is less efficient because we eat the animal that eats the grain instead of eating the grain ourselves. It takes about 15 pounds of feed to make 1 pound of beef, 6 pounds of feed for 1 pound of pork and 5 pounds of feed for 1 pound of chicken, the Department of Agriculture estimates. For catfish, it's about 2 pounds of feed per pound of fish." [8].

"The environmental comparison of cheese varieties made from cow milk and directly from lupine and the evaluation of energy inputs in fish protein and vegetable protein also suggest an environmental advantage for vegetarian food. " [9]

"It"s increasingly evident, however, that a part-time vegan diet " one that emphasizes minimally processed plant food at the expense of everything else " is the direction that will do the most to benefit human health, increase animal welfare and reduce environmental impact." [10]

Impact 4: It takes at least twice as much pounds of grain to produce one pound of meat as opposed to eating the grain directly. This grain fed to livestock could be fed to hungry humans thus mitigating world hunger. The same is true of dairy as seen in link [9]. Meat, dairy, and egg production agitate world hunger and should be banned worldwide. Its unjust for 1st world countries to continue to consume large quantities of animal products.

Pro has now established why meat, eggs, and dairy should be banned. Now why not just ban these animal products in Rhode Island? Why the entire world? The environment and world hunger are global problems. It would be unjust to ban these products in one nation or state and instead should be banned worldwide.

III. Rebuttal of Con

"My first assertion is that meat, eggs and dairy are required to maintain a healthy diet. What kind of diet if without meat, eggs and dairy? A diet that will cause life long health and eating problems. Without eggs, meat and dairy, people will suffer due to mal nutrition. " Con

This would be an effective argument is Con provided evidence to back up this claim. In fact Con's first link supports Pro's side. "Fruit are whole foods, with plenty of fiber, nutrients and antioxidants. It is very difficult to overeat fructose if you"re only getting it from whole fruit." [11].

"A 100 gram portion (3.5 ounces) of raw ground beef contains large amounts of Vitamin B12, B3 (Niacin), B6, Iron, Zinc, Selenium and plenty of other vitamins and minerals (5)." Con

It seems Con ran out of characters and did not post links to all sources used by Con. Pro contends its unfair for Con not to link the original source. Pro needs to see the quotes in their original context.

"Vitamin B12 is particularly important because it can not be gotten in ANY amount from plants. Studies show that out of vegans who don"t supplement with B12, 92% are deficient in this critical nutrient (6)." Con

B12 comes from bacteria. Raw organic fruits and vegetables are covered in bacteria. Since B12 comes from bacteria and not animals nor plants, the claim that B12 cannot be gotten in any amounts from animals nor plants is accurate but misleading. Since, bacteria are found just about everywhere on the planet Earth. Bacteria producing b-12 can be found in the human gut.

"Microorganisms are the only natural sources of the B12-derivatives" [12].

"Vitamin B12 synthesis by human small intestinal bacteria" [13].

"B12 From Fruits And Vegetables

All fruits and vegetables contain some B12, but it's often in small quantities. Organic fruits and vegetables contain significantly more, however.

Why?

Bacteria eat decaying organic matter and excrete complex nutrients into the soil, including B12. This is then absorbed by plants, with some staying in the roots and some making its way into the leaves for us to take in." [14].

B-12 can be gained from bacteria in the soil and human gut as well as supplements. As for 92% being deficient in b-12, all that means is that a little extra care is needed when on a vegan diet. Note, the 92% didn't supplement.

"Unprocessed meat is also loaded with healthy fats, but meat from grass-fed animals contains up to 5 times as much Omega-3 as meat from grain-fed animals" Con

Looking at the amount of omega-3's from grass-fed cows there are insignificant amounts. Pro seriously doubts that unprocessed meats are loaded with healthy fats. No outside link backing this claim up is supplied by Con.

"Milk and dairy products contain many nutrients and provide a quick and easy way of supplying these nutrients to the diet within relatively few calories. " Con

Milk is a dairy product, this statement is redundant. Dairy products are high in fat, fat contains 9 calories per gram. Dairy products are some of the highest fat and calorie per pound products available.

"Vegetarians are deficient in creatine, leading to reduced physical and mental performance " Con

Con does not supply proof for these claims. Pro contends that creatine is not to be concerned with.

"Carnosine is only found in animal foods" Con

Con has picked a term that hardly anyone has heard of and without proof, now claims that this nutrient is important. Both creatine and carsosine are proteins, and a vegan can receive enough protein.

""DHA and EPA are the active forms of Omega-3 in the human body and found primarily in animal foods. The body is inefficient at converting ALA (the plant form of Omega-3) to the active forms" Con

Fish receive their DHA and EPA omega-3s from eating seaweed and microalgae. A vegan can eat seaweed and microalgae for nourishment. "Omega-3 fatty acids for nutrition and medicine: considering microalgae oil as a vegetarian source of EPA and DHA."[15].

Pro is running out of characters and cannot address every point Con makes.

Con goes on to state all the minerals and vitamins in animal products. Yes, there is vitamins and minerals in these foods, but so is there in plant foods. Kale and collards are two great examples.

Con then goes onto economics and feasibility. Meat is a humongous industry. Yet, sooner or later morals take precedence over the wallet. Global climate change is a dire threat. If nothing else, self-survival demands that meat, eggs, and dairy to be banned worldwide. Vote Pro. Thank you. Pro looks forward to the next round of debate.

IV. Links
5. http://wwf.panda.org...
6. http://www.greenpeace.org...
7. http://www.humanemyth.org...
8. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com...
9. http://ajcn.nutrition.org...
10. http://www.nytimes.com...
11. http://authoritynutrition.com...
12. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
13 .http://www.nature.com...
14. http://www.raw-food-health.net...
15. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
Forever23

Con

Hello ladies, gentlemen, judges I am Forever 23 and I am on the behalf of the premise which is that we CAN NOT ban eggs, dairy and milk worldwide.

So allow me to first refute my opponents claims and then rebuild on my own points.

Their first claim was that dairy, meat and eggs are unhealthy. However, meat has a lot of proteins. Proteins are necessary for cells and overall growth of the body. http://www.healthyeating.org...
Cheese contains a host of nutrients like calcium, protein, phosphorus, zinc, vitamin A and vitamin B12. Calcium is one of the nutrients most likely to be lacking in the American diet. According to government statistics, nine out of 10 women and six out of 10 men fall short of calcium recommendations. The high-quality protein in cheese provides the body with essential building blocks for strong muscles. For a complete listing of the nutrients in cheese, see the table below.

If you are lactose intolerant, many cheeses, particularly aged cheeses such as Cheddar and Swiss, contain little or no lactose and are often well tolerated.

For the past 30 years or so, saturated fat""found in meats, eggs, cheese, butter, whole milk, lard and some oils""was considered a primary cause of heart disease. New research, however, is showing that saturated fat has a minimal impact on heart disease risk, which is changing the "saturated fat is bad" paradigm and allowing people to enjoy more cheese and other favorite foods. Further research is needed showing significant scientific agreement.

Even if saturated fat is less of a concern, calories still matter. To reduce calories, you can grate or sprinkle harder cheeses over your dishes or use small amounts of aromatic and sharp cheeses for their delicious cheese flavor. Many reduced-fat varieties of cheeses are also available. This 2014 article in the Food and Nutrition Magazine provides more information on the Charms and Challenges of Cheese.

The 2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommend that individuals ages 9 and older consume at least 3 servings of milk, cheese or yogurt each day; children aged 4-8 years need 2-1/2 cups per day. One serving of cheese is one and one-half ounces of hard cheese, one-third cup for grated cheese and two ounces for processed cheese.

Their second claim was that meat dairy and eggs productions are unhealthy for the environment. However, cars are too! Do you see a ban on cars? No. But to get more topical, lets go over on the unhealthy production of vegetables and different herbs. I am sure that you know that pesticides are used to grow vegetables and fruits. http://www.toxicsaction.org... When Rachel Carson wrote Silent Spring in 1962, she raised public awareness about the effects of pesticide use on our health and our environment. However, almost forty years after Carson drew attention to the health and environmental impacts of DDT, use of equally hazardous pesticides has only increased. And all the time there is more evidence surfacing that human exposure to pesticides is linked to health problems. For example, in May 2010, scientists from the University of Montreal and Harvard University released a study that found that exposure to pesticide residues on vegetables and fruit may double a child’s risk of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), a condition that can cause inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity in children. Acute dangers - such as nerve, skin, and eye irritation and damage, headaches, dizziness, nausea, fatigue, and systemic poisoning - can sometimes be dramatic, and even occasionally fatal.

Chronic health effects may occur years after even minimal exposure to pesticides in the environment, or result from the pesticide residues which we ingest through our food and water. A July 2007 study conducted by researchers at the Public Health Institute, the California Department of Health Services, and the UC Berkeley School of Public Health found a sixfold increase in risk factor for autism spectrum disorders (ASD) for children of women who were exposed to organochlorine pesticides.

Pesticides can cause many types of cancer in humans. Some of the most prevalent forms include leukemia, non-Hodgkins lymphoma, brain, bone, breast, ovarian, prostate, testicular and liver cancers. In February 2009, the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry published a study that found that children who live in homes where their parents use pesticides are twice as likely to develop brain cancer versus those that live in residences in which no pesticides are used.

Studies by the National Cancer Institute found that American farmers, who in most respects are healthier than the population at large, had startling incidences of leukemia, Hodgkins disease, non-Hodgkins lymphoma, and many other forms of cancer.

However, the pro doesn't just want to starve the planet... I wonder why?

So judges, you should really consider how illogical it would be to ban the production of all meat, dairy and eggs.

Their third point was that farming is cruel. However, farming is not cruel. It is true that many factory farms can be cruel to animals. However, the family, mom and pop farms treat animals with kindness and even respect. Perhaps instead of completely banning animals and all animal products, we could come up with a much more radical solution. An example of which could be to lower how much we rely on factory farms.

Their fourth assertion was about production agitating world hunger. He said that we should feed humans what we are feeding animals. However, lets assume it like that. We will now replace the animals in this food chain. We will eat all the grain and will the poverty issue be solved? NO!

Now to quickly repeat my arguments.
1. The three food are extremely healthy.
2. They help the economy
3. This plan is not feasible.

Now, as promised in my last speech, I will point out the health factor of each category. Second up, we have dairy.

http://www.healthyeating.org... "Milk and dairy foods are healthy foods and considered nutrient-rich because they serve as good sources of calcium and vitamin D as well as protein and other essential nutrients. They provide phosphorus, potassium, magnesium, and vitamins A, B12, and riboflavin1.

The calcium in milk, yogurt, and cheese is significant yet most people don't get enough calcium or vitamin D each day2. Getting the recommended three servings of dairy per day can help build bone mass, leading to improved bone health throughout the life cycle.

To meet daily calcium requirements, most people should have two to three cups of milk or servings of dairy foods each day. There are many ways to ensure you are eating healthy and getting enough milk and milk products each day. Start with a healthy breakfast of cereal, milk and fruit or a yogurt parfait, include cheese in your lunch or afternoon snack and consider pudding or hot chocolate made with milk as an evening dessert. To learn more about the amounts of food to eat each day, use the Healthy Eating Planner.

Some Key Benefits of Dairy Foods

The calcium in milk is easily absorbed and used in the body, which is why milk and milk products are reliable as well as economical sources of calcium.

A diet rich in protein and vitamin D contributes to bone health. Due to their high protein, vitamin D, and calcium content, dairy foods are a good choice for maintaining strong bones.

A diet rich in fruit, vegetables and low-fat dairy foods, with reduced saturated fat, is as effective as some medications in reducing blood pressure in people with increased blood pressure. It has also been shown to reduce risk of cardiovascular disease and type-2 diabetes1.

Cultured dairy products like yogurt contain probiotics which provide a wide array of health benefits. Probiotics in the diet can enhance the good bacteria in the gut, improve health and reduce the risk of certain diseases"

I just want to have a closing statement about one particular very healthy example of dairy. Yogurt. http://www.webmd.com..., "First off, your body needs to have a healthy amount of 'good' bacteria in the digestive tract, and many yogurts are made using active, good bacteria. One of the words you"ll be hearing more of in relation to yogurt is 'probiotics.' Probiotic, which literally means 'for life,' refers to living organisms that can result in a health benefit when eaten in adequate amounts.

Miguel Freitas, PhD, medical marketing manager for Dannon Co., says the benefits associated with probiotics are specific to certain strains of these "good" bacteria. Many provide their benefits by adjusting the microflora (the natural balance of organisms) in the intestines, or by acting directly on body functions, such as digestion or immune function. (Keep in mind that the only yogurts that contain probiotics are those that say "live and active cultures" on the label.)"

Vote pro for health problems.
However, if you don't want to loose your meats and dairies, vote con.
A vote for con, is a vote for health.
Thank you.
Debate Round No. 2
Stupidape

Pro

Outline

I. Summary of Con's arguments and flaws
II. Line by line rebuttal
III. Links

I. Reading Con's arguments

Con seems to focus on undernutrition. That meat and dairy has x, y, and z nutrients and these are essential to health. Which is true, undernutrition can cause many dilemmas. "A form of malnutrition resulting from a reduced supply of food or from inability to digest, assimilate, and use the necessary nutrients."[16].

"This undernutrition starts early in life"more than a third of African children under the age of five are stunted in their growth and must face a range of physical and cognitive challenges not faced by their better-nourished peers." [17].

"overnutrition
[-noM3;oM3;trishR42;ən]
a condition of excess nutrient and energy intake over time. Overnutrition may be regarded as a form of malnutrition when it leads to morbid obesity." [18].

When eating meat in moderation, the problem is not undernutrition but overnutrition. Overnutrition of fat, saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal proteins. [19].

There are plenty of ways to get the nutrients Con mentioned through a plant based diet, without over consumption.

II. "Their first claim was that dairy, meat and eggs are unhealthy. However, meat has a lot of proteins. Proteins are necessary for cells and overall growth of the body." Con

This statement is true. Meat has a lot of protein and the body needs a lot of protein. Yet, Pro has already proven that a person can get enough protein through a plant based diet. Con's claim is no longer relevant to the discussion.

"According to government statistics, nine out of 10 women and six out of 10 men fall short of calcium recommendations." Con

Please provide a source for these statistics Con. Pro contends its unfair for a debater not to list his or her source. Adequate calcium can be gained from a plant based diet as seen in round 2. Con's argument on undernutrition and calcium is irrelevant.

"The high-quality protein in cheese provides the body with essential building blocks for strong muscles. For a complete listing of the nutrients in cheese, see the table below." Con

Another undernutrition argument that is irrelevant.

"If you are lactose intolerant, many cheeses, particularly aged cheeses such as Cheddar and Swiss, contain little or no lactose and are often well tolerated." Con

Lactose is a sugar without fiber nor phytonutrients. Lactose therefore is unhealthy. Cheese has lots of fat, thus overnutrition. [20]. Only one cup of cheddar has 532 calories, 72% from fat and only 2% from carbs. 28g of Saturated fat. 139mg of cholesterol, that's nearly 50% of your daily cholesterol intake. Not to mention the sodium.

"For the past 30 years or so, saturated fat""found in meats, eggs, cheese, butter, whole milk, lard and some oils""was considered a primary cause of heart disease. New research, however, is showing that saturated fat has a minimal impact on heart disease risk, which is changing the "saturated fat is bad" paradigm and allowing people to enjoy more cheese and other favorite foods. Further research is needed showing significant scientific agreement." Con

Con makes a strong argument. Not strong enough though. Con gives no reference to outside sources. There are many ways to mislead information. For example, trans fat is considered to be more unhealthy than saturated fat. If the two are compared one might receive the illusion that saturated fat is healthy. Also, medium chain triglycerides saturated fat found in coconut oil tend to be much healthier than long chain triglycerides found in animal products.

" A new study suggests dietary substitution of saturated fat in the form of medium chain triglycerides (MCT) for polyunsaturated fats can prevent progression of NAFLD-associated liver injury and that MCT containing oils could be a new NAFLD therapy." [21].

Even so, saturated fats increase LDL levels, increase blood viscosity, and gut permeability. Higher blood viscosity forces the heart to work harder. "A diet high in saturated fat is linked to an increase in low-density lipoproteins"[22].

Saturated fat increases blood viscosity. "Eating saturated fat has been linked to viscous blood and risk for high blood pressure, according to the World Health Organization"[23].

Gut permeability "A single meal of meats, eggs, and dairy can cause a spike of inflammation within hours that can stiffen one"s arteries. Originally this was thought to be the result of saturated animal fat causing our gut lining to leak bacterial toxins into our blood stream leading to endotoxemia." [24].

Con then discusses pesticides. Pesticides that are sprayed on grain that livestock eat and then the pesticides are transferred to humans via consumption of animal products.

"Their third point was that farming is cruel. However, farming is not cruel. It is true that many factory farms can be cruel to animals" Con

Factory farming is cruelty incarnate. All factory farms are cruel. Here's a video to demonstrate. [25].

"However, the family, mom and pop farms treat animals with kindness and even respect. " Con

The mom and pop farms do not treat animals with kindness and respect. Is slavery kind or respectful? No! Is the killing of an innocent sentient being kind? No! [26]. Watch the slideshow for [26] and tell me that mom and pop farms are kind and respectful.

"Perhaps instead of completely banning animals and all animal products, we could come up with a much more radical solution. An example of which could be to lower how much we rely on factory farms." Con

Pro refuses to compromise.

"Their fourth assertion was about production agitating world hunger. He said that we should feed humans what we are feeding animals. However, lets assume it like that. We will now replace the animals in this food chain. We will eat all the grain and will the poverty issue be solved? NO!" Con

Although poverty won't be solved, a partial solution is almost always better than no solution. This is a Nirvana Fallacy on Con's part.

"8. The Nirvana Fallacy: This fallacy occurs when you reject a partial solution because it is not perfect. Obamacare doesn"t cover all Americans, but it does get most insured. It would be a Nirvana Fallacy to say, "because it doesn"t cover all Americans, it should be rejected." A partial fix is better than no fix; something is almost always better than nothing.
"[27].

"Now to quickly repeat my arguments.
1. The three food are extremely healthy.
2. They help the economy
3. This plan is not feasible." Con

1. Pro has already proven that these foods are unhealthy.
2. Yes, but morals take precedence over money.
3. How so? This isn't about feasibility, this is about morals. It might seem unfeasible to try to save every human life, yet we have to try. Pro deliberately left the implementation broad. Change doesn't have to happen overnight. Non-vegan foods could be banned slowly over the next ten to fifty years. This would give plenty of time for people to adjust.

Think of incandescent light bulbs and how they are being phased out. The same could be done for meat, eggs, and dairy worldwide.

Con's arguments become redundant about receiving enough calcium and vitamin D.

Yogurt and bacteria. This is a good argument. In fact the best argument Pro has seen in this series of debates.

Yogurt's health benefits are a lie "We think it is one of the worst fake diet foods on the planet. There are so many foods out there that are healthier, tastier and far more filling than a tiny cup of lactose. If you are a yogurt addict wanting to drop those last five pounds, here are some things to think about next time you're in the dairy section. " [28].

If you want bacteria they are plenty in the Earth. Bacteria are just about everywhere.

In conclusion, Con has failed to make an effective counter-argument. Pro has further proved the benefits of a plant diet and adverse health effects of consuming animal products. Meat, eggs, and dairy should be banned worldwide. Vote Pro.

III. Links
16. http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...
17. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
18. http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...
19. https://www.youtube.com...
20. http://nutritiondata.self.com...
21. http://www.sciencedaily.com...
22. http://www.livestrong.com...
23. http://www.theatlantic.com...
24. http://nutritionfacts.org...
25. https://www.youtube.com...
26. http://www.humanemyth.org...
27. https://docs.google.com...
28. http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
Forever23

Con

Hello once again, audience, judges. I am Forever 23 and I am going to bring forth the premise which is that meat, dairy and eggs should be banned world wide.
So let me begin with some counter-counter rebuttles.
To refute my point about the proteins, they stated that meat causes overeating. However, it is not about what you eat. Its about how much you eat. If someone stuffed themselves full with vegetables, they would gain a lot of weight. http://www.everydayhealth.com...

In the study, a team of researchers at Pennington Biomedical Research Center in Baton Rouge, La., randomly assigned several hundred overweight people to one of four diet combinations: low fat and higher carb; high protein with low fat and higher carbs; high fat and lower carbs; or high protein, high fat, and lower carbs. Each participant’s plan was designed to cut 750 calories a day from their current diet.

After six months and again after two years, researchers gauged participant’s weight, fat mass, and lean mass. Across the board, the strongest predictor for weight loss was not the makeup of any particular diet, but rather how stringent the participants were in sticking to the reduced-calorie plan. Researchers concluded that the findings show that dieters should choose restricted-calorie plans that work for them, and not base their diet plans off of a particular fad (e.g. a low-carb diet isn’t the best plan for someone with a sweet tooth).

This study mirrors the results of more recent results from the Pennington Biomedical Research Center, which found that extra calories and low protein are the two largest culprits that lead to weight gain. Published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, researchers in this study concluded that the extra calories lead to weight gain, while the low protein levels caused participants to gain fat and lose muscle mass over time.

Their second counter rebuttle was that vegetables have a lot of proteins to. However, proteins are not the only minerals needed for a healthy diet. Let me state a fact about what the vegan diet will lack:

Because B12 is critical for life and isn’t found in any amount in plants (except some types of algae), it is by far the most important nutrient that vegans must be concerned with.

In fact, B12 deficiency is very common in vegans, one study showing that a whopping 92% of vegans are deficient in this critical nutrient.

But B12 is just the tip of the iceberg… there are other lesser known nutrients that are only found in animal foods and are critical for optimal function of the body.

Here are a few examples:

    • Animal protein contains all the essential amino acids in the right ratios. It is important for muscle mass and bone health, to name a few. Vegans don’t get any animal protein, which can have negative effects on body composition.

    • Creatine helps form an energy reservoir in cells. Studies show that vegetarians are deficient in creatine, which has harmful effects on muscle and brain function.

    • Carnosine is protective against various degenerative processes in the body and may protect against aging. It is found only in animal foods.

The pro refused to compromise by saying that the killing of animals itself is cruel. However, the plant growing that they sugget is also cruel. I quote from http://besynchro.com... To start with, many of the foods that vegans eat a lot of have major negative ecological impact (think soy and grains). Beyond that, even the saving animal lives argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny. The reality is, any time you eat a food that is farmed on a large scale, you are complicit in a huge number of animal deaths that happen during the harvesting process. The industry refers to these as "tractor kills" and the animals are typically rodents and other small creatures. On the other hand, if you ate local grass-fed, grass-finished beef every day for a year, you'd be responsible for killing about 2/3 of an animal. Kind of makes you re-evaluate when you see how a vegan can be responsible for many more animal deaths over the course of a year than someone who eats beef every day, right? Therefore, its best to agree that eating meat will be okay. Unless we want to starve people for the complete welfare of animals.

Theirlast counter rebuttle was that it will solve hunger partially. However, it will help hunger by 0%. World hunger is not caused by the lack of food. http://www.psrast.org...,

Summary

The food resources of the world are abundant rather than scarce according to Peter Rosset, director of Institute for Food and Development Policy in California. Even in countries with excess food production millions are starving. This is explained in detail in the recent book by Lappe, Frances Moore, Joseph Collins, and Peter Rosset; "World hunger: Twelve Myths", New York: Grove Press. Second Edition 1998.

- The belief that world hunger can be solved by increasing food production is an unsubstantiated myth. It has lead to policies by international organs that have supported farming policies that in practice have boosted production of expensive export foods on the expense of production of basic foods for the population.

The real problem is poverty. As the market responds to money and not to actual need, it can only work to eliminate hunger when purchasing power is widely dispersed according to Rosset. As the rural poor are increasingly pushed from land, they are less and less able to demand for food on the market. Promoting free trade to alleviate hunger has proven to be a failure. In most developing countries exports have boomed while hunger has continued unabated or actually worsened according to the book.

Now onto my counter rebuttles. They refuted my point by saying that pro has alredy proved that meat, dairy and eggs are unhealthy. However, through extensive research, government agencies and nutrition programs have proved thet health benefits of meat eggs and dairy. If you look at my refutations and points, you can find multiple evidences.

Next they pointed out how moral over power "the wallet". They do. Millions of people will lose jobs if we close down the farming industry. Millions will starve and live in poverty. Is that really what we want to do? Cause millions of farmers and their loving families to starve? Imagine, all over the world, the farming industry was closed down. Imagine, everybody, poor and alone crowded on the streets begging for money. That is clearly what pro wants.

They refuted that by saying that this will not happen overnight. That was never my point. My point was that we are ominivores. And NO COUNTRY WILL AGREE TO TAKE MEAT OUT OF THE DIET.

The also mentioned as refutation for my yogurt argument that yogurt good bacteria can be found everywhere. However, I figure it is needless to explain that yogurt has special becteria which can only be found in dairy.

Now allow me to introduce the argument about the right to body. Everybody has the right to do whatever they want with their body and health. http://www.amnestyusa.org... We all have the right to make decisions about our own health, body, sexuality and reproductive life, without fear, coercion, violence or discrimination. But all over the world, people's freedom to make these decisions is controlled by the state, medical professionals, even their own families. Criminal law and punitive sanctions are frequently used to control such choices. In the end, many people are prevented from making any choice at all.

Thank you. Vote opp


Debate Round No. 3
Stupidape

Pro

Pro will devote this round solely to rebuttal of Con's arguments.

"However, it is not about what you eat. Its about how much you eat. If someone stuffed themselves full with vegetables, they would gain a lot of weight. " Con

Obesity is more complicated than energy balance. Calories gained - calories spent is not the sole contributor to weight gain and loss. Fiber and zero calorie soft drinks are the exceptions.

Ever hear about how celery is zero calories due to the fiber? Fiber is partially digested by the body. Meaning there is less calories in fiber than the label would have you believe. Fiber helps a person lose weight.

"The same portion of celery contains about 1 gram of total carbohydrates -- including 0.6 grams of fiber. Fiber isn't fully digested or absorbed by your body, according to the University of Massachusetts." [29]

Fiber "A recent study found that people who added more of it to their diets -- without changing anything else -- lost almost as much weight as people who followed the heart-healthy, low-fat eating plan recommended by the American Heart Association." [30].

"A new study published in the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society found that people who drank diet soda gained almost triple the abdominal fat over nine years as those who didn"t drink diet soda." [31].

Weight gain and loss is more complicated then calories in versus calories out. Fiber and diet soda are two exceptions. Con does have a point, if you eat 6000+ calories a day you will gain weight.

"But B12 is just the tip of the iceberg" there are other lesser known nutrients that are only found in animal foods and are critical for optimal function of the body." Con

There are doctors to help a person monitor his or her nutrition on a vegan diet. Multivitamins and other supplements are available too.

"Animal protein contains all the essential amino acids in the right ratios. It is important for muscle mass and bone health, to name a few. Vegans don"t get any animal protein, which can have negative effects on body composition." Con

Con has provided no proof that zero animal protein intake will lead to adverse body composition. A person eating vegan can receive plenty of protein on a vegan diet. Consuming animal protein increases IGF-1 production by the liver. Elevated IGF-1 levels increases cancer risk.

"To start with, many of the foods that vegans eat a lot of have major negative ecological impact (think soy and grains)." Con

It takes more grain to feed animals and then to eat the animal as opposed to grain alone. This is a Pro argument.

" The reality is, any time you eat a food that is farmed on a large scale, you are complicit in a huge number of animal deaths that happen during the harvesting process. The industry refers to these as "tractor kills" and the animals are typically rodents and other small creatures. " Con

Con is correct that animals are killed during harvesting. Informed vegans know of this and follow the principle of least harm. From this chart you can see that eating chicken and eggs contributes the most to animal deaths and fruits, vegetables, and grains the least.

"Figure 1: A diet of plants causes the fewest animals to be killed. Leaving chickens and eggs out of our diets will have the greatest effect on reducing the suffering and death caused by what we eat. "
[32].

Nobody is completely innocent, yet eating vegan causes less animal deaths.

"On the other hand, if you ate local grass-fed, grass-finished beef every day for a year, you'd be responsible for killing about 2/3 of an animal." Con

See slaughtering the amazon. From an earlier round. "The cattle sector in the Brazilian Amazon is the largest driver of deforestation in the world, responsible for one in every eight hectares destroyed globally. Efforts to halt global deforestation emissions must tackle this sector. "[6].

Free roaming cattle take so many acreage to graze that forests need to be cleared to support these cattle. Intensive grain farming may kill more animals in harvest than free roaming cattle. What about the animals in the forest before it was cleared? What about the environment? There simply isn't enough acreage for everyone to eat grass-fed beef.

"However, it will help hunger by 0%. World hunger is not caused by the lack of food." Con

There is only so much usable land. Right now some of the land in third world countries are used for grain and exported to feed to livestock. The livestock will be eaten by 1st world countries. What about in the future? Won't there be even more demand for food in the future? Finally, raising livestock in factory farms is water intensive. Water shortages are a factor.

"PASADENA, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--In an article for the quarterly journal Vision titled "What Shall We Eat and Drink?" publisher and international relations scholar David Hulme discusses the global issues of world hunger and water security. Slicing through the Gordian Knot of current events and politics, Hulme explores the complex factors relating to food shortages and the building water crisis." [33].

"They refuted that by saying that this will not happen overnight. That was never my point. My point was that we are ominivores. And NO COUNTRY WILL AGREE TO TAKE MEAT OUT OF THE DIET." Con

Humans are omnivores, yet are healthier on a vegan diet. This is not about if countries will agree or not, its about whether or not they should agree or not.

"The also mentioned as refutation for my yogurt argument that yogurt good bacteria can be found everywhere. However, I figure it is needless to explain that yogurt has special becteria which can only be found in dairy." Con

Along with all the adverse effects of dairy, including lactose and animal protein. Not to mention the animal cruelty factor.

"Now allow me to introduce the argument about the right to body. Everybody has the right to do whatever they want with their body and health. http://www.amnestyusa.org...... We all have the right to make decisions about our own health, body, sexuality and reproductive life, without fear, coercion, violence or discrimination. But all over the world, people's freedom to make these decisions is controlled by the state, medical professionals, even their own families. Criminal law and punitive sanctions are frequently used to control such choices. In the end, many people are prevented from making any choice at all." Con

Pro believes in freedom, yet not in drunk driving. When a person decides to eat and drink a certain way, these actions affect others. Why should an animal abuser be protected from the law, and not the animal? If an animal lover tries to stop the abuser, the cruel person can hide behind the law.

How would you like it if your next door neighbor yelled a lot and played music really loud at all hours, 24/7? Freedom is nice, but there are other values. Like kindness, compassion, empathy, and justice. Meat, dairy, and eggs should be banned worldwide. Vote Pro.

Links
29. http://www.fitday.com...
30. http://www.webmd.com...
31. http://time.com...
32. http://www.animalvisuals.org...
33. http://www.businesswire.com...
Forever23

Con

So hello once again, dear audience, honorable judges, respected opponent. Once again, I am Forever 23 and I am bringing forth the premise which is that meat, dairy and cheese should not be banned worldwide.

So let me start with refuting my opponents point on the gaining to much weight. First, let me repeat the argument that if you eat less of something, you will gain less weight. This is not calories gained, calories lost. This is eat less calories. Their refutation was completely irrelevant. Now I would just like to point out the celery argument. We NEED calories to survive. Eating 0 calories a day is not a healthy option. To add a little "spice" to my argumentation: It would be impossible to gain the required 2000 calories a day without meat. 100 grams of peas has only 81 calories. Meat, provides a nice amount- 213. Undernourishment can cause some very significant problems: Thank you http://www.livestrong.com...,
Heart Problems
When someone restricts their caloric intake for an extended period of time, malnutrition can occur. People who have an eating disorder, such as anorexia nervosa or bulimia nervosa, are at risk for becoming malnourished. People who severely restrict their calories have slower metabolisms because their body goes into starvation mode and slows the body's functions to conserve energy. Frances Sizer and Eli Whitney write in "Nutrition and Concepts and Controversies" that people who are malnourished, the heart beats irregular or too quickly, the heart muscles can become thin and weak and the chambers of the heart decrease in size. As a result of malnutrition, heart attacks can occur.
Digestive Problems
When a person does not eat enough calories, the digestive tract can slow down to conserve energy. The digestive tract is responsible for breaking down food and drinks to the simplest form so that the body can use the nutrients to function. When a person isn't consuming enough calories, the stomach empties slower and the lining of the intestinal tract can shrink. When a person does eat, the digestive tract has been damaged so severely that it cannot properly digest food. The pancreas produces digestive enzymes more slowly and the person may experience diarrhea. Diarrhea only makes the problem worse by dehydrating the person and depleting essential vitamins and nutrients.
Nutrient Deficiencies
People who are restricting calories can develop nutrient deficiencies. Several deficiencies -- including iron, folate and vitamin B-12 deficiencies -- cause anemia, a disease that affects red blood cells. These cells are responsible for carrying oxygen to the organs and tissues of the body. An anemia associated with nutritional deficiencies can cause fatigue, shortness of breath, pale skin, irregular or fast heartbeat, dizziness, cognitive problems, cold hands and feet and headache. At first people who are anemic may not have any signs or symptoms, but as the condition goes untreated, signs and symptoms worsen and become noticeable. Nutritional deficiencies can also cause a range of other symptoms, including skin lesions, a lack of energy and diminished cognitive functioning.
Unhealthy Weight Loss
If you're restricting calories with the goal of losing weight, consuming far too few calories might sabotage your weight loss before it starts. Not only is severely restricting calories not sustainable -- you're bound to fall off the wagon and return to your old eating habits -- but it also causes your body to destroy muscle tissue. You should not lose more than two pounds a week during safe weight loss, explains West Virginia University. If you lose more than that, you're consuming too few calories.

They have also stated that making meat is unhealthier for the environment. However, I would like to point out somethings that the prop should probably be worried with- too much maneur.

Farms are dealing with this problem very well. They are packing maneur into large, cement containers which make sure that none of it gets into lakes. That is the solution.
Now, onto their problem of pollution. In order to solve pollution, we could perhaps find ways to solve this problem. Getting rid of the problem is not right. Lets face the situation head- on.
Other than grain production, lets focus on production of grasses for humans. http://www.toxicsaction.org..., When Rachel Carson wrote Silent Spring in 1962, she raised public awareness about the effects of pesticide use on our health and our environment. However, almost forty years after Carson drew attention to the health and environmental impacts of DDT, use of equally hazardous pesticides has only increased. And all the time there is more evidence surfacing that human exposure to pesticides is linked to health problems. For example, in May 2010, scientists from the University of Montreal and Harvard University released a study that found that exposure to pesticide residues on vegetables and fruit may double a child’s risk of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), a condition that can cause inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity in children. Pesticides are not used so often on animal grain. Animals need food from a lower kind of standard and less pesticides are used.

Next they mentioned how it is immoral and wrong. They went on about saving animal lives. But really, lets be honest, pro isn't focusing on human wellbeing. Humans need the animal industry. Not because of "the wallet", but because they need the animals industry to survive. Think jobs. Think how many hard working farmers will loose their job because of dairy, meat and eggs being banned. What pro wants is poverty. A vegetable only land is a dystopia. It will take good health and jobs from millions.

Later on, they spoke about how there was land. But my argument had nothing to do with land. My argument was about the true roots of hunger. Which was poverty. There will never be FOOD FOR FREE. In order, to get food, you need money, And while no one has money, no one will have food. Vegetables only will not be the eradication of poverty.

They refuted my right to body point by saying that the right to body applies only to people as long as their right to body does not harm anyone. There is a difference between drunk driving and this. Eating meat, dairy and eggs is not a detriment to others and to you. Drunk driving on the other hand, is.

To quickly restate my own points.
1. Meat, eggs and dairy are required to maintain a healthy diet.
2. Most of the population consumes these products.
3. This plan is not feasible.
4. Right to body.
5. Will take jobs of millions.

Now, I would like to point out the health benefits of eggs. http://www.bbcgoodfood.com..., Eggs are a very good source of inexpensive, high quality protein. More than half the protein of an egg is found in the egg white along with vitamin B2 and lower amounts of fat and cholesterol than the yolk. The whites are rich sources of selenium, vitamin D, B6, B12 and minerals such as zinc, iron and copper. Egg yolks contain more calories and fat. They are the source of cholesterol, fat soluble vitamins A, D, E and K and lecithin - the compound that enables emulsification in recipes such as hollandaise or mayonnaise.

Some brands of egg now contain omega-3 fatty acids, depending on what the chickens have been fed (always check the box). Eggs are regarded a 'complete' source of protein as they contain all eight essential amino acids; the ones we cannot synthesise in our bodies and must obtain from our diet.

For years eggs have been considered more of a health risk than a healthy food. Since they are high in cholesterol, it was recommended that people with high cholesterol levels avoid eggs. But it turns out the cholesterol content for which they have been vilified is much lower than it was 10 years ago. This reduction has been attributed to the changes in hen feed since the BSE crisis in the 1990s. British research shows that a medium egg contains about 100mg of cholesterol, a third of the 300mg recommended daily limit. Also it is saturated fat in the diet, not dietary cholesterol that influences blood cholesterol levels the most.

Thank you, vote con.


Debate Round No. 4
Stupidape

Pro

Pro will make a brief summary. Pro has proven meat, eggs, and dairy are unhealthy. Pro has also proven that a person can receive enough nutrients on a vegan diet. Finally Pro has proven that a vegan diet is healthier. Con's arguments are redundant and non-persuasive.

Pro has proven the environmental harm of non-vegan foods. Pro has also proven animal cruelty. Last, but not least Pro has shown that more people could be fed if every was vegan.

Meat, dairy, and eggs should be banned worldwide. Vote Pro.
Forever23

Con

So, before I begin my debate, I would like to thank a few people. Thank you my opponent, stupid ape, for debating this topic with me. Thank you judges for reading this debate. I really appreciate your feedback.

So now, let me summarize the main points in this debate. I will then show why the con deserves the win and finally state some killer statistics to if you have any doubt clear the clouds.

Now here are all prop points:

1. Meat, eggs, and dairy are unhealthy to consume.
2. Production of animal products causes excessive environmental damage.
3. Production causes animal cruelty
4. Production agitates world hunger

Dear audience, you have seen how I refuted all of these claims. Starting from their first assertion which I refuted by stating how many health benefits all of these foods have. Their second point, that production of vegetables is also harmful and that we are making animal production healthier. And ending with their last point that really, meat does not agitate hunger.

Now onto my own assertions. And the PRO HAS FAILED TO REFUTE EVERY SINGLE ON OF MY OWN ASSERTIONS.

1. Meat, eggs and dairy are required to maintain a healthy diet.
2. Most of the population consumes these products.
3. This is not feasible.
4. Meat has many health benefits.
5. The use of pesticides in farming is also unhealthy.
6. The right to body.
7. Will take jobs of millions
8. Yogurt, a dairy, is healthy.
9. Eggs are necessary in the diet.

Judge lets quickly weigh this round. On the con, we are trying to ensure jobs for everyone. We are trying to keep a safe, healthy environment. And that is what every single human being needs. On their side, we have the illogical, absurd, out of place assertions. They talked about ending world hunger with this ban. However, in my previous speeches, I have pointed out multiple times the TRUE causes of poverty. Not the lack of food, the lack of money.

Now onto some killer statistics which will clear the clouds, if any for the judges. Thank you http://www.medicaldaily.com....

Benefit 1: Since meat contains a large amount of protein, this could be beneficial to the body as the need for protein is an important one for the body. Since protein is said to improve the overall health and well-being of one’s body, there are other benefits such as the repair and building of body tissues as well as the production of antibodies that will protect the body from infections, thus strengthening the immune system as well. Most importantly, since meat contains all the essential amino acids, it definitely ranks as one of the best sources of protein.

Benefit 2: Of the many nutrients that meat contains, it is rich in iron, zinc and selenium. While iron helps in forming hemoglobin that transports oxygen to different parts of your body, zinc helps in tissue formation and metabolism as well as selenium breaks down the fat and chemicals in the body.

Benefit 3: Vitamins are also a big part of the one’s diet, and Vitamin A, B and D are commonly found in meat as well. Not only do these vitamins promote good vision, stronger teeth and bones but it also support the central nervous system thus promoting mental health as well. Another big benefit of eating meat is the maintenance of your skin’s health.

Next onto supplying some points on the benefits of eggs and dairy. Thank you, http://www.nationaldairycouncil.org..., Research has long shown that dairy’s nutrients are vital to the development of strong bones and reduce the risk for developing rickets and osteoporosis. In fact, the U.S. Surgeon General’s Report on Bone Health and Osteoporosis (2004) recognizes the role of nutrients in dairy foods that work together to help protect bones. See below for fact sheets, educational materials, and research that illustrate how the nutrients in milk, cheese, and yogurt help build strong bones.


Thank you, http://authoritynutrition.com... Studies show that eggs actually improve the cholesterol profile. They raise HDL (the good) cholesterol and increase the size of LDL particles, which should lower the risk of heart disease. Whole eggs are incredibly nutritious, containing a very large amount of nutrients compared to the calorie load. The nutrients are found in the yolks, while the whites are mostly protein.Whole eggs are incredibly nutritious, containing a very large amount of nutrients compared to the calorie load. The nutrients are found in the yolks, while the whites are mostly protein. Eggs are an excellent source of protein, with all the essential amino acids in the right ratios. Eggs are very high in the antioxidants Lutein and Zeaxanthin, which can drastically reduce the risk of Macular Degeneration and Cataracts. In one study, 30 overweight or obese women consumed either a breakfast of eggs or a breakfast of bagels. Both breakfasts had the same amount of calories.

The women in the egg group felt more full and ate less calories for the rest of the day and for the next 36 hours (20).

In another study that went on for 8 weeks, eating eggs for breakfast lead to significant weight improvements compared to the same amount of calories from bagels. The egg group (21):
•Lost 65% more body weight.
•Lost 16% more body fat.
•Had a 61% greater reduction in BMI.
•Had a 34% greater reduction in waist circumference (a good marker for the dangerous abdominal fat).

Now let me just point out.

Judges, a vote con is a vote health.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by whiteflame 1 year ago
whiteflame
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>Reported vote: Reformist// Mod action: Removed<

5 points to Pro (Arguments, Sources), 1 point to Con (Conduct). Reasons for voting decision: Yeah this was tough. But I like Pro's rebuttal of the vitamin and we need protein statment

[*Reason for removal*] (1) The voter doesn"t explain sources or conduct. (2) The voter insufficiently explains arguments. Voters must analyze arguments made by both sides and state why they were or were not persuasive, not merely state the voter"s eventual views on a couple of points.
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Posted by Forever23 1 year ago
Forever23
Oops. I thought I was pro :( haha
Posted by Notiased 1 year ago
Notiased
Forever23 please do some actual research instead of listening to authority nutrition... LOL.
Posted by Forever23 1 year ago
Forever23
I know what a vegan is. However, life style with meat tends to be healthier and even easier.
Posted by iTziPocalyspe 1 year ago
iTziPocalyspe
Forever23 do you know what a vegan is???? Your assumptions that without meat, eggs or dairy people would be malnourished are invalid. There are many people who have turned vegan and have become healthier then they ever have, link bellow. Many vegans actually live healthier, more active and longer lives then those who eat meat.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
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