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AlexisMH
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MikalMayo
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Medea is responsible for her actions

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Started: 5/7/2015 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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AlexisMH

Pro

Premises:
1.Anger is defined as a strong feeling of displeasure, hostility, and revenge.
2.Medea does not want her children to live happy lives while she suffers.
3.She knows what she is planning to do is wrong.
4.No one is forcing her to kill her children; she is doing it on her own free will.
5.The only reason she wants to kill them is to bring pain to her husband who abandoned her.
6.She is selfish and only thinking about herself and her anger towards her husband; not her children.
7.Therefore, Medea is responsible for her actions.

Non-controversial:
Premise 1 because we agreed on this definition
Premise 3, it is clear that Medea knows this is wrong or else she would not be having this inner conflict.
Premise 5 Medea has no other reason to commit infanticide that to cause pain to her husband.
MikalMayo

Con

Premises:
1.Anger is defined as a strong feeling of displeasure, hostility, and revenge.
2.Medea"s husband is to blame for her anger.
3.Medea wants her husband to feel the same pain she feels.
4.This act is a form of punishment on her enemies
5.Medea does not want to be seen as a coward.
6.She does not want her children to become victims of insults and torture.
7.If her husband had not abandoned her than she would not have to seek revenge on him.
8.Therefore, Medea is not responsible for her actions.
Non-controversial:
Premise 1
Premise 2; If it was not for Medea"s husband leaving her, she would not be angry.
Controversial:
Premise 5, 7, 3
Debate Round No. 1
AlexisMH

Pro

1.We agreed on this definition.
2.Medea"s husband is to blame for her anger, however she should not take that out on her children.
3.Medea should not use her children as a sacrifice to satisfy her own selfish need of revenge.
4.This is a form of punishment on her enemies.
5.Killing her children to punish a man is very cowardly.
6.Medea is saying her children are going to become victims as an excuse. There is no evidence to show that any shame or torture would be brought to her children.
MikalMayo

Con

1.We agreed upon this definition
2. Medea feels that her children will grow old and abandoned her so killing them would cause he less suffering
3. She is aware that what she plans to do is wrong.
4. You can say that her husband has driven her to the point of insanity, which is forcing her to contemplate killing her children.
5. That is her only reason for doing this.
6. I can agree that she is being selfish
Debate Round No. 2
AlexisMH

Pro

2. Medea cannot tell the future, therefore her fear or her children abandoning her is irrational and not a reason to kill them.
4. No one should be able to make you turn against your own children.
MikalMayo

Con

2. I agree that even though she is agree with her husband it is not right to take it out on the children.
3. Her children are the only way for her to hurt him, if she were to kill herself he probably wouldn"t care.
5. I would agree that killing her children over a man is cowardly. She could just kill him instead
6. I also agree that there is no evidence of her children becoming victims, so therefore it is an excuse.
Debate Round No. 3
AlexisMH

Pro

1.Anger is defined as a strong feeling of displeasure, hostility, and revenge.
2.Medea does not want her children to live happy lives while she suffers.
3.She knows what she is planning to do is wrong.
4.No one is forcing her to kill her children; she is doing it on her own free will.
5.The only reason she wants to kill them is to bring pain to her husband who abandoned her.
6.She is selfish and only thinking about herself and her anger towards her husband; not her children.
7.Therefore, Medea is responsible for her actions.
MikalMayo

Con

1.Anger is defined as a strong feeling of displeasure, hostility, and revenge.
2.Medea"s husband is to blame for her anger, but she should not take it out on her children.
3.Medea wants her husband to feel the same pain she feels.
4.This act is a form of punishment on her enemies
5.Medea does not want to be seen as a coward, but killing her children over a man could be considered weak .
6.She does not want her children to become victims of insults and torture.
7.If her husband had not abandoned her than she would not have to seek revenge on him.
8.Therefore, Medea is partly responsible for her actions.
Debate Round No. 4
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