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Medea is responsible for her actions

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Started: 5/10/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Longo

Pro

1. Responsibility is defined as being held accountable for anything that can happen that can also potentially be controlled by an individual, or group of people.
2. In the play, Medea thinks about killing her own children; contemplating why they should live. This shows that she is thinking and can control the situation.
3. Medea also plots, and succeeds in gaining her revenge on Jason. Just being able to collude against him shows that she has conscious, and definitive thoughts.
4. Having known this, her ability to think and act on those thoughts is a clear sign that she is responsible for her own actions.
5. Medea also shows during the play that she just lacks general happiness for life and in a way has always looked for a reason to resort to murder.
6. This shows that her reasons to murder stem from her own thoughts and philosophies on life. She would take the responsibility.
7. Medea demonstrated that she had control over the situation, and was in control of her own thoughts. She chose to murder just because she thought it would be best.
8. Therefore, Medea is responsible for her actions.

Non-Controversial: Premise 1 is a definition. Premises 2 and 4 just reflect on Madea's consciousness which is clear throughout the play.
Controversial: Premise 3 is based on emotion of the characters and emotion can be perceived and received differently from person to person. Premises 5, 6, and 7 all depend on a persons view on Medea's sanity. In the play she says she will be "sacrificed" by her enemies and shows general signs of insanity.
monte55

Con

Con-
1.Medea is not responsible for her actions
2. Just because she had a proper initial though process doesn't prove she is responsible for her actions. The initioal thought process is irrelevant
3.Referring back to premise 2, having thoughts about doing something doesn't mean somebody is ultimately responsible for their actions.
4.As mentioned in my opponent"s 4th premise, no Seneca was not around to justify Medea"s actions"BUT to prove the "court of law, trials, or psychiatrists" we date back to these times to come up with logical excuses for people"s actions.
5. *( as mentioned in the 2nd premise Medea"s violence was due to some sort of arousal"according to Seneca)*
6.There is also no law stating that it"s legal for a man to commit adultery.
7.Thus, there is no possible proof why Medea should be held accountable for the actions she has committed against her children.
Non- controversial
Premise 1 is my counter argument
Premise 2 is in slight agreement with my opponent *(can be controversial)

Controversial
#4 Premise 4 is explaining Seneca"s logic behind ""violent effort, the mind does not become angry, but it gathers itself together and is aroused or relaxed according to its estimate of the need."
#5,6. This premise is proving that there is no right nor wrong to anyone"s actions. There are no documents stating that having affairs nor committing adultery is legal.
Debate Round No. 1
Longo

Pro

3. Having irrational thoughts about doing something AND acting on those thoughts is what makes someone responsible. You are right that having thoughts alone make you responsible, but that is not particular to this case.
5. Although Seneca gives a reason for Madea's madness, I feel like you are responsible for your own thoughts. No one can force you think a certain way. Your freedom of mind enables you to think about whatever you want. Madea chose to contemplate murder simply because that is what she was into. She was in control the entire time.
6. This is true, but adultery is highly looked down upon in modern society today. Many crimes, even murders, are committed due to the act of adultery.
7. There is no physical proof to my argument. My only proof is by knowing the human condition. If Madea was human, then she has a freedom to think on her own, thus making her responsible for the actions she commits.
monte55

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
Longo

Pro

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monte55

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
Longo

Pro

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monte55

Con

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