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Michael Jackson album Thriller is his best album

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Started: 3/21/2011 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Destruction

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Contention 1: Sales
It has sold the most albums in U.S. History and world history.

Contention 2: Grammys
He has won seven awards for "Thriller" more than any other album. More than any other album by Michael Jackson.
EnglishForAliens

Con

Contention 1 is an Argumentum Ad Populum. Watch this clip and wait for the 2nd thing Rachel brings up. The number of copies an album has sold is irrelevant to how good it is. By that contention the Backstreet Boys are better than Nirvana.

Contention 2 see this is how much respect people have for grammy's. In fact I will wait to see your response before letting you know Michael Jackson's own opinion on them.

Bring on round 2, were we might discuss such Gems as in "The Girl is Mine" Michael utters "I think I told you, I'm a lover not a fighter" --------------------------- I feel nauseous
Debate Round No. 1
Destruction

Pro

First off this debate is arguing which one of Michael Jackson"s albums is the best. The number of copies an album has sold determines how popular it is. If it sells a lot of albums that means a lot of people like it.
The Grammys shows all of the people who are the best in the industry deciding who is to win an award. If you win a lot of awards for one album that means all the people in the music industry like it too.
EnglishForAliens

Con

First off this debate is arguing which one of Michael Jackson"s albums is the best. The number of copies an album has sold determines how popular it is. If it sells a lot of albums that means a lot of people like it."

How popular an album is does not indicate how good it is. Even if it sells a lot of copies that still doesn't always mean everyone that bought a copy likes it. Thriller is the musical equivalent of a movie like Titanic. It won a ton of Oscars and broke all box office records but that was not down to it being a good movie it was down to an enormous global marketing campaign, ground breaking special effects and a lead actor with a crazy following. Likewise Thriller was produced and marketed in a way no album had ever been before. It's video's created a new industry and the moonwalk stunned audiences. It had a huge marketing budget and became a global phenomenon. None of these things are relevant to the Album's quality. The songs are derivative of other genres it's a collection of unrelated lyrically meaningless pop by numbers tracks.

"The Grammys shows all of the people who are the best in the industry deciding who is to win an award. If you win a lot of awards for one album that means all the people in the music industry like it too."

It doesn't always. Thriller won awards the same way Titanic won Oscars because the Album had such a lavish production most people in the music industry had little choice but to vote for it.

Michael Jackson's best album is Off The Wall. It created a new genre of music and provided the gap needed to get away from disco. The songs flow together as one piece of art from a naturally gifted artist who subsequently let achieving commercial success and notoriety become more important to him than creating music. Michael Jackson created Off The Wall before he became a cartoon character and it is the most honest and classy piece of work he ever produced.
Debate Round No. 2
Destruction

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Destruction forfeited this round.
EnglishForAliens

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And another.....
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by feverish 6 years ago
feverish
Damn this is tempting. I'm an Off The Wall man myself. Think I'll have to pass it up though.
Posted by princetongurl 6 years ago
princetongurl
Not sure what the conflict or the debate is all about
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Vote Placed by BillBonJovi 6 years ago
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