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Angelo
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Minimum wage increases raise unemployment

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16kadams
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/29/2012 Category: Politics
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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16kadams

Pro

1st round acceptance.
Angelo

Con

accepted.
Debate Round No. 1
16kadams

Pro

C1: Raises teenage unemployment

70-cent-an-hour increase in the minimum wage would cost some 300,000 jobs. Sure enough, the mandated increase to $7.25 took effect in July, and right on cue the August and September jobless numbers confirm the rapid disappearance of jobs for teenagers. [1]

Unemployment in 2006 (teenage) was 4.4%, there was a steady minimum wage. In 2009, after a few minimum wage increases, teenage unemployment was 10.2%. [2]



C2: raises overall unemployment

as seen on source 3:






The minimum wage raises unemployment drastically.

"Economists have studied the job-destroying features of a higher minimum wage. Estimates of the job losses of raising the minimum wage from $4.25 to $5.15 have ranged from 625,000 to 100,000 lost jobs. It is important to recognize that the jobs lost are mainly entry-level jobs. By destroying entry-level jobs, a higher minimum wage harms the lifetime earnings prospects of low-skilled workers. " [4]

This evidence shows older raises, but still same results. The raise in the federal minimum wage raised unemployment.

Conclusion:

I already did this, and it had an error, and decided not to re-make it again, so I made it short. The minimum wage raises unemployment, vote pro.






sources:

http://online.wsj.com... [1]
http://www.americanthinker.com... [2]
http://www.foxbusiness.com... [3]
http://www.house.gov... [4]
Angelo

Con

Angelo forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
16kadams

Pro

Extend arguments
Angelo

Con

Angelo forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
16kadams

Pro

If you accept a debate you are suppsoed to respond...... extend arguments.
Angelo

Con

Angelo forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by RoyLatham 5 years ago
RoyLatham
If the government wants to give more money to poor people, the correct way is with a negative income tax.

Raising the minimum wage moves jobs to more productive people, denying jobs to entry level people. Another mechanism is to automate the job, eliminating the labor. A machine that automatically fills cups to the correct level eliminates one job in twelve for example. Farm workers have been substantially displaced by automation. Finally, jobs my be lost entirely. the product may be discontinued as non-competitive or sent overseas.
Posted by 16kadams 5 years ago
16kadams
oh. i understand. Do not wanna debate via comments though.
Posted by Double_R 5 years ago
Double_R
People are not paid based off of the quality of their work, they are paid based off of what the market dictates their value to be. Think back to the days before minimum wage when factory owners began to monopolize the workforce. They were paying workers pennies, and the workers had no choice but to accept it because there were no other options out there. As a result factory owners were getting richer and richer while their employees who did all of the work starved.

It doesn't matter how good you are, if your choices are to work for $3 an hour or starve, then suddenly that $3 sounds pretty good. But should that be the choice, and would eliminating minimum wage bring us closer to that direction? That is where the debate is.
Posted by 16kadams 5 years ago
16kadams
@double R

Yes because in economic theory the people unemployed due to the min wage are worth less work wise. The people now employed are worth 7$ or more. So people would get paid based of of the quality of their work, so that 3$ is a 300% increase in pay. Everyone else would still have the 7$.
Posted by Double_R 5 years ago
Double_R
Of course minimum wage increases overall unemployment. The question is whether this is good. Does it really matter if more people are working, when they are only making $3 an hour?
Posted by 16kadams 5 years ago
16kadams
Current min wage see new resolution
Posted by Hardcore.Pwnography 5 years ago
Hardcore.Pwnography
How much is the minimum wage ? It matters a lot. For example, a minimum wage of $1 compared to a minimum wage of $50.
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