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Hunts
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light_strike
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Minimum wage

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Hunts
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/1/2015 Category: Economics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Hunts

Con

I will allow the pro arguer to go first.
light_strike

Pro

You have no specifics laid out so I'm going assume that you are completely against the concept of a minimum wage.
Without a minimum amount of money for employers to pay employees they could pay whatever they would like. Large corporations would give large amounts of money to higher up employees and little to nothing to the average middle class citizen. This would most likely come near to eliminating the midddle class. The rich would get richer and the poor would get poorer.
Debate Round No. 1
Hunts

Con

"Large corporations would give large amounts of money to higher up employees and little to nothing to the average middle class citizen." Even with minimum wage this happens, take for example Wal-Mart on the link it shows the average pay per cashier and other jobs. It shows that the average cashier is paid $8.88 per hour USD. Now I can guarantee the higher up employees are paid much more than that, if you don't believe me here is the link.... http://www.glassdoor.com...

When a minimum wage is in place, people who have the same job have many inequalities. To prove one inequality let's use an employee stocking shelves for example. Now if employee #1 was working harder than employee #2 he is still making the same amount of wage as employee #2- how is that fair?

Minimum wage allows for no one to succeed except for the top CEO's. Now when you said the average middle class citizen would basically get paid nothing without minimum wage, if this were true these middle class workers would go to a corporation who was willing to pay more- this creates competition. The CEO's would be smart enough to understand that all his workers were going to work at his competition he would raise the workers raises to ensure they stay with his/her corporation.
light_strike

Pro

light_strike forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Hunts

Con

I will wait and see if light_strike will be back for round 3
light_strike

Pro

I'm sorry about the forfeit.

You are correct that there is an unnecessarily large gap between the salary of a high level employee and an average employee. However, not having a minimum wage would make that gap grow significantly. Less money would go to an average person because the corporation was not legally obligated to pay that person more money.

You said that the minimum wage gives people doing the same job many inequalities. If an employee was working harder then another employee the minimum wage has nothing that keeps employee 1 from getting a raise. http://en.wikipedia.org... A minimum wage is the LOWEST that an employee can get paid. It is NOT the amount that an employee MUST be paid.
Debate Round No. 3
Hunts

Con

http://smallbusiness.chron.com...
http://www.forbes.com...
http://www.forbes.com...

The above links show how much minimum wage hurts the small business. Raising the minimum wage hurts all business in the sense that when the wage is increased, some workers have to be let off. Now how are the companies supposed to decide to let people off? What if they let off the person who needed the job rather than the person who comes from a wealthy family and is just working a minimum wage job because he enjoys the work?

"If an employee was working harder than another employee the minimum wage has nothing that keeps employee 1 from getting a raise." The company could not afford to do this without firing another one of the corporations employees because the company still needs profit.

People who work at minimum wage jobs, like McDonald's lets say, and want a raise are not thinking ahead. The reason is because to afford this the company would then need to increase the cost of the burgers to pay for the increased wages. Now not as many people would want to buy burgers because of the cost increase, thus either the wage would have to be decreased or jobs would be lost. See the link below for more.

http://theboltlive.com...

Minimum wage hurts all business and their employees, which is why we need to abolish it.
light_strike

Pro

light_strike forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
Hunts

Con

After light_strikes forfeiture I would like to make a closing statement.

First off thanks to light_strike for debating me, I had a lot of fun doing it and saw the other prospective in this controversial issue..

Below is a final link of one of my heroes Milton Friedman who talks about minimum wage. Please take a look at the video. Once again thank you.

https://www.youtube.com...
light_strike

Pro

light_strike forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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