The Instigator
Pluto2493
Con (against)
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DucoNihilum
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56 Points

Mobile Phone Confirmation?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/29/2008 Category: Technology
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 5,803 times Debate No: 5189
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Pluto2493

Con

This is more of a question than a debate. Why does the site make you give your phone number to access certain features? Which features are they?

I am against the mobile phone confirmation.

CONTENTION I: I don't have a cell phone.
DucoNihilum

Pro

The old version of debate.org had some flaws that needed to be addressed. One of the primary flaws was that of those who made second, third, or more accounts simply to vote for themselves and to cheat the system. Mobile phone confirmation makes it much more difficult for one to cheat than simple email confirmation. Anybody can get a free email address any time they desire, and in turn create several accounts skewing their own scores, or harming the scores of others. Since not many people have multiple cell phone numbers, and even for those that do the numbers are far more limited than the nearly unlimited use of email accounts, this will clearly limit the amount of fake accounts created.

Alternatives for people who do not have cell phones would be to ask their friends for help, as it is unlikely you will have friends with no cell phones at all, and one that will be unable to recieve a single text message to help you.

Consequently, this also helps prevent cheating in that people

A. Have a finite, limited number of friends who can help them with this, even if they wanted to use them to cheat

and

B. Friends will get more annoyed the more you ask them, and finding willing friends goes down the more friends you have found that will help you.

SO- while the new cell phone program is not something that will necessarily be good for all individuals in this group, as a whole we benefit with much more fair debates. For those who are directly affected by this, they may still use alternative methods of activation- namely asking friends and family for help.
Debate Round No. 1
Pluto2493

Con

1. That makes sense and all, but I find it pretty ridiculous to ask one of my friends for their cell phone to get a text from a debate website.

2.Also, the message says "In the future we plan to add more mobile features, including the ability to upload photos and videos, and receive mobile notifications."

I don't want my friend/family member to get mobile notifications, nor do I want debate.org sending me spam.

3. I don't feel safe giving a website my/friends' phone number.

4. Can't they trust me?
DucoNihilum

Pro

My opponent brings up four concerns that I will address.

1. You do not have to do anything, you may leave the site, or continue debating on the site but not vote. A text is required only for certain features for the website.

2. These would simply be options, there would most likely be an opt in process. Given the unlikely chance there was not an opt in process, there would be an opt out process. It is highly unlikely that these would be submitted unsolicited as the founders of debate.org could get into some trouble for this.

3. See #1

4. See R1
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by danimarton50 1 year ago
danimarton50
I am from Hungary, I cannot verify my identity as my country is not listed.
Posted by ScottMcInnes 4 years ago
ScottMcInnes
I don't, nor will I ever, have a mobile phone. I have a perfectly good land line, however, which I would be happy to provide. I just wasted a bunch of time signing up, only to find I cannot participate. It's too bad only one method of confirming is available. (If I borrow a friend's cell, I haven't really confirmed MY identity, have I?) I'll be back when the site is more imaginative. Maybe.
Posted by McBain 5 years ago
McBain
OOOPS!!!! forgot to unckeck the box last post. Now....

HOW DO I STOP GETTING SPAM EMAILS?! WHERE CAN I TURN IT OFF AFTER I'VE POSTED A COMMENT!!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?

ARARARARFRAFGSAHESE T%@#G
%^$
*!^@%#^&!^$ @$%^ &*R^*I(*U&#%$%^!%QE#$*O&^%$

Screw this site.
Posted by McBain 5 years ago
McBain
Not to mention that this website ALREADY sends enough e-mail spam. Why must I uncheck all e-mail boxes whever i post a comment. Those should be UNCHECKED by default.

I don't WANT e-mails sent whenever somebody posts comments.
Posted by McBain 5 years ago
McBain
I agree mobile confirmation is complete and utter crap. You HAVE to find another option Debate.org!
Posted by SexyLatina 6 years ago
SexyLatina
You there! Webmaster! I too am displeased! Not being able to vote on debates means that my only passtime on this website is commenting, which isn't going to make too much of a difference to anybody! Find a better solution, please!
Posted by Webmaster 6 years ago
Webmaster
We are working on getting Australia and New Zealand on the cell phone verification list. Please feel free to send us an e-mail with your carrier if it isn't on the list. We can get it on there ASAP.

-Webmaster
Posted by Biowza 6 years ago
Biowza
I don't understand why Australian phone numbers cannot be added. This is very annoying as it means I cannot vote on any debates. I have a cell phone, and everything is ready to go but it's just not happening.

Not happy.
Posted by Zerosmelt 6 years ago
Zerosmelt
lol i thought ur name was instigator pluto2493. sorry about that.
Posted by Pluto2493 6 years ago
Pluto2493
lolz, I even voted for you Duco (After I confirmed my membership, of course ;)
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