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MilitaryAtheist
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Money should be spend more on climate crisis than on military force

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Started: 9/17/2012 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Adilet

Pro

hello everybody, I've just started a new debate. I would like to say thanks in advance for my opponent.
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MilitaryAtheist

Con

Confirmed!
Debate Round No. 1
Adilet

Pro

Let me start with definitions, then if you don't mind, I'd like to see you propose your point of vision as con.
Defintions:
Money: any circulating medium of exchange, including coins, paper money, and demand deposits. [1]
Spend:to use up, consume, or exhaust [2]
Cimate: the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation, sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a series of years. [3]
Crisis:a stage in a sequence of events at which the trend of all future events, especially for better or for worse, is determined; turning point. [4]
Military: of, for, or pertaining to the army or armed forces, often as distinguished from the navy [5]
Force: power to influence, affect, or control; efficacious power [6]
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MilitaryAtheist

Con

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The Military has to do with on-the-spot situations that very well affect the state of the US. However climate, as good as it should be treated should not suck up all the tax-payers money because in the scale you are talking about would require regulation and would damage the economy because you are basically fighting the large businesses that are in America.

I leave this for now.
Your turn Pro!
Debate Round No. 2
Adilet

Pro

Nowadays both climate crisis and military force is important for mankind. Even though we must take into account that quality of the climate is disappearing. For many enviromentalists, the world seems to be getting worse, because the natural resources are running out, the species are becoming extinct in vast numbers and that the planet's both water and air becoming polluted. On the other hand, in 1997 the World Wide Fund of Nature issued a press release called: "Two thirds of the world's forest lost forever". Besides, the next source of climate crises is black carbon or soot, which is more interesting black carbon is not like other kinds of air pollution that causes globar warming and so on. First and foremost, it is not a gas but is made up of tiny carbon parts like those you can see in dirty smoke and it plays a big role in warming the planet. Secondly, it absorbs infra-red heat radiated by earth and spreads back to space, black carbon aslo absorbs heat from sun.
In contrast, once Al Gore mentioned in his speech that he spent enough time dealing with military complex and Local battles, regional wars and world war, everything associated with military causes pollution, climate disaster, air pollution, water pollution.It is therefore clearly seen that we have to come up with idea that money should be spend on climate more than military force.
However, there was an action to protect our climate from smoges in 1952 which calls " Cleaning the air after the great smog in 1952". As far as I'm concerned I think money should be spend on climate crisis more. And we must pay attention for African old proverb which says : "If you want to go quickly, go alone; if you want to go far, go together" and we have to go both far and quickly to protect our planet.
MilitaryAtheist

Con

MilitaryAtheist forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
Adilet

Pro

Military has caused a lot of death and war, for inctance what about Cost of War in Iraq or in Afghanistan, how many people died? how it affects on our enviroment, climate? Thus, from now we have to take into account that If We Spend Money to Control our Climate,we'll live longer and sickness free. Total Cost of Wars Since 2001 $1,378,096,715,743 (not constant) and even Al Gore says that if government spent the money for climate conditions, not for war, the earth would be on the well way to solve this challenge. In addition there is a gold words of Mark Luther King: "Injustices anywhere threat justices everywhere" and Al Gore says in our time, increases of global pollution anywhere, is a threat to human future everywhere. It is absolutely true, people have to deal with problems seriously instead of spending money on military force, war and so on, while there is more serious problem. So let's stop pollution, safe our nature and species

Source:
http://costofwar.com...
MilitaryAtheist

Con

Pro thinks that if you spend money towards climate, it will solve the issue. There is one BIG thing Pro is not thinking of. If we somehow get the entire world to lay down their arms then that is just dandy. However, that will happen. We need to protect ourself. Dropping the military budget will only make things worse. Not only that but it would be slowing down the thing that might happen anyway. Pro then lists some Al Gore qoutes, which he doesn't build on. Miltary is more useful then climate change.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by MilitaryAtheist 4 years ago
MilitaryAtheist
I was busy
Posted by Adilet 4 years ago
Adilet
MilitaryAtheist what happened?
Posted by nate.DDOqa 4 years ago
nate.DDOqa
This was manually changed in the database to normal without the second round skip.
Posted by MilitaryAtheist 4 years ago
MilitaryAtheist
wtf is with this?
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