The Instigator
swagmasteryolo
Con (against)
Losing
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The Contender
progressivedem22
Pro (for)
Winning
35 Points

Monkeys in Zoos

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progressivedem22
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/19/2014 Category: Economics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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swagmasteryolo

Con

Monkeys are ugly especially their butts
progressivedem22

Pro

My opponent's position as Con compels him to defend the argument that monkeys do not belong in zoos. Therefore, the burden of proof is on him to prove to us that monkeys do not belong, particularly vis-a-vis other animals that we commonly would find.

Since he didn't provide his entire opening argument in his statement, I will reduce this argument to merely outlining my points.

1. He claims that "monkeys are ugly, especially their butts." First of all, appearance is subjective -- what appears beautiful to some may appear hideous to others. He applies his subjective lens of perception -- of appearance, mind you, instead of intelligence, value, et al. -- so broadly that he argues that, because he has not an affinity for monkeys, no one does, and thus his view should be universalized.

As for "butts": I don't find human butts all too attractive either. Perhaps this is why we cover our behinds before going out in public? Furthermore, I wouldn't be so inclined as to say that, because a human butt may be ugly, the entire human must be ugly. There must be more to it. I'd ask my opponent to elaborate on this position, or on why his focus is on butts.

Your chief burden, of course, is in connecting ugliness to exclusion, and explaining why, even if monkeys are "ugly," they should be excluded from the zoo.

2. Monkeys are very intelligent. Some have learned sign language, in fact.


3. People have different preferences, and you would be costing zoos revenue by removing monkeys.


4. Where would you put the monkeys? Who would take care of them? How would they survive?


With these arguments out in the open, I yield back to Con.
Debate Round No. 1
swagmasteryolo

Con

swagmasteryolo forfeited this round.
progressivedem22

Pro

Extending.
Debate Round No. 2
swagmasteryolo

Con

swagmasteryolo forfeited this round.
progressivedem22

Pro

Another forfeit; vote Pro.
Debate Round No. 3
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Reasons for voting decision: Con forfeits and has week arguments.
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Vote Placed by iamanatheistandthisiswhy 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro I am impressed, from Cons one sentence you made an argument. Great work and full points.
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Reasons for voting decision: Forfeit. Pro proves monkeys should not be released from zoos merely for having ugly butts.
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Reasons for voting decision: FF. All relevant points to pro.