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Music Debate: Defend your favorite band or artist!

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Started: 8/28/2013 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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PatriotPerson

Pro

The EXACT same as my current debate with the exact (if not, really close) title, but this time with Kumquatador, since he is my nice-but-still-rivaly rival. This is our third debate together.

If you accept this, man, may the best rival win. First round=acceptance and what your choice is.
Kumquatodor

Con

I accept. I will defend Johnny Cash!

Step forward!
Debate Round No. 1
PatriotPerson

Pro



Fun's perhaps fourth most popular song, Why Am I the One?

I got enough on my mind, that when she pulls me by the hair,
She hasn't much to hold on to.
She's keeping count on her hand one, two, three days that
I've been sleeping on my side.

I finished kissing my death,
So now I'll head back up the steps
Thinking about where I've been, I mean the sun was never like this.
I wanna feel with the seasons, I guess it makes sense
'Cause my life's become as vapid as a night out in Los Angeles
And I just wanna stay in bed

And hold you look I used to, you know that I am home.
So darling, if you love me, won't you let me know?

Or go on, go on, go on, if you were thinking that the worst is yet to come,
Why Am I the One always packing up my stuff?
For once, for once, for once, I get the feeling that I'm right where I belong.
Why Am I the One always packing up my stuff

She's got enough on her mind that she feels no sorrow.
I late my fate fill the air, so now she's rollin' down her window.
Never been one to hold on, but I need a last breath,
So I ask if she remembers when she used to come and visit, man,
We were fools to think that nothing could go wrong.

Go on, go on, go on if you were thinking that the worst is yet to come
Why Am I the One always packing up my stuff?
For once, for once, for once I get the feeling that I'm right where I belong.
Why Am I the One always packing up my stuff?
I think I kinda like it, but, I might've had too much.

I'll move back down to this western town,
When they find me out, make no mistake about it,
I'll move back down, to this western town,
When they find me out, make no mistake about it

I'll move back down to this western town...
Go on, go on, go on, if you were thinkin that the worst is yet to come
Why am I the one always packin all stuff

Go on, go on, go on, if you were thinkin that the worst is yet to come
Why am I the one always packin all stuff

For once, for once, for once, I get the feeling that I'm right where I
Belong
Why am I the one always packin all my stuff

I think I kinda like it but I might of had too much
And I'll move back down...


MEANING AND STORY

The meaning of Why Am I the One is getting through a struggling relationship and making it better. It is often stated that said relationship is getting pretty bad, but Nate tells us that we can make it better by going on (go on, go on, go on).
Kumquatodor

Con

I'm going right to the heavy-hitters. I shall start with one of the most famous Johnny Cash songs: the Man in Black.

Lyrics:
Well, you wonder why I always dress in black,
Why you never see bright colors on my back,
And why does my appearance seem to have a somber tone.
Well, there's a reason for the things that I have on.

I wear the black for the poor and the beaten down,
Livin' in the hopeless, hungry side of town,
I wear it for the prisoner who has long paid for his crime,
But is there because he's a victim of the times.

I wear the black for those who never read,
Or listened to the words that Jesus said,
About the road to happiness through love and charity,
Why, you'd think He's talking straight to you and me.

Well, we're doin' mighty fine, I do suppose,
In our streak of lightnin' cars and fancy clothes,
But just so we're reminded of the ones who are held back,
Up front there ought 'a be a Man In Black.

I wear it for the sick and lonely old,
For the reckless ones whose bad trip left them cold,
I wear the black in mournin' for the lives that could have been,
Each week we lose a hundred fine young men.

And, I wear it for the thousands who have died,
Believen' that the Lord was on their side,
I wear it for another hundred thousand who have died,
Believen' that we all were on their side.

Well, there's things that never will be right I know,
And things need changin' everywhere you go,
But 'til we start to make a move to make a few things right,
You'll never see me wear a suit of white.

Ah, I'd love to wear a rainbow every day,
And tell the world that everything's OK,
But I'll try to carry off a little darkness on my back,
'Till things are brighter, I'm the Man In Black.


Meaning
The intent of this song is to remind us to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. It means to remind us to forget about the first-world problems that soround us. The Man in Black takes a stand against corrupt tyranny in foriegn lands and against the apathy of the domestic. It inspires us to fix the world and gives hope that things may become better.






Debate Round No. 2
PatriotPerson

Pro

For this round, I will show you a Fun. song that you probably do not know. It is called Walking the Dog. Walking the Dog is from their 2009 album, Aim and Ignite. The music video (I have posted) shows Nate, Jack, and Andrew all joyously colored and being silly in a catchy song. The only people who don't like the video are colorblind. Hope you like it. Here are the lyrics.

Walking alone 'cause the night is dead,
Crossed my mind when I crossed the bridge.
Have you lost your mind, and your wrist got bruised,
And you wanted better love
Well, its sleeping your bedroom
Hold on, stay by my side, don't go.

If you could see me, whoever I am,
It's not like a movie, it's not all skin and bones.
So come on, love. (Come on, come on, come all and go)
Na na na na na na na, I will not let you go.

Now I'm walking alone, 'cause the night is dead.
My feet don't glide like they did back then.
When I called you up, so we could shoot the moon,
These days I'm left to howl in tune

But hearts do break
And I must admit, I've got a better set of chords
So I might've been fakin' it.
I think I really only cried just once, and so

If you could see me, whoever I am
It's not like a movie, it's not all skin and bones.
So come on love (come on, come on, come all and go)
Na na na na na na na, I will not let you go.

If you could see me, whoever I am
It's not like a movie, it's not all skin and bones.
Na na na na na na na, I will not let you go.

After all the shows,
After the boys of summer had gone,
Amid all the confusion, these friends I've been losing,
I always thought from the start I'd be the one moving on.

I guess I'll never know
Where all the boys of summer did go
But I miss what we made, all those days were not wasted.
I guess there are some things that I may never know.

Have you lost your mind, and your wrist got bruised
And you wanted better love
Well, it's sleeping in your bedroom.
Hold on, stay by my side, don't go.

If you could see me, whoever I am
It's not like a movie, it's not all skin and bones.
So come on love (come on, come on, come all and go)
Na na na na na na na, I will not let you go.

If you could see me, whoever I am
It's not like a movie, it's not all skin and bones.
So come on love (come on, come on, come all and go)
Na na na na na na na, I will not let you go.
Na na na na na na na, I will not let you go.


MEANING AND STORY

Walking the Dog is about a man whose girlfriend is threatening and is tempted to leave him and end his relationship with him. The man is trying to convince her to stay by saying that he is her better love and that he will not let her go. This song also might state that the girlfriend is self-abusive with lines like "Have you lost your mind" and "Your wrist got bruised". On these problems, the man seems to be trying to fix them, and explaining that he will love her for who she is. I know, how sweet.


Kumquatodor

Con

Kumquatodor forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
PatriotPerson

Pro

Gasp! An FF! Oh well, my song for this time around will be Out On the Town. It is a bonus track for their most recent album, Some Nights. Here it is.

I set all my regrets on fire
'Cause I know I'll never take the time
To unpack my missteps and call all of our friends
I figured they would take your side.

I make the bed, just not that well
Your name comes up a lot, when I talk to my mom
Oh, I think she can tell

I was Out On the Town,
So I came to your window last night.
I tried not to throw stones, but I wanted to come inside.
And now I'm causing a scene, thinking you need a reason to smile.
Oh no, what have I done?
There's no one to keep me warm.

So maybe I should put up a fire
I'll call them back and borrow a box knife.
So I can learn to live with all this stupid sh*t
I've been doing since '99,

And I know I could be more clever.
And I know I could be more strong.
But I'm waiting for the day you come back and say
"Hey, maybe I should change my mind".

I drink a lot, I'm not sure if that's new.
But these days when I wake up
from a night I forgot,
I just wish that it never came true

I was Out On the Town,
So I came to your window last night.
I tried not to throw stones, but I wanted to come inside.
And now I'm causing a scene, thinking you need a reason to smile.
Oh no, what have I done?
There's no one to keep me warm.

And I know I could be more clever.
And I know I could be more strong.
And I know I could be more clever.
And I know I could be more clever.

I knew there'd come a day
when all was said and done,
Everything I was, is everything but gone.
All my big mistakes are bouncing off your wall
The bottles never break, the sorrow never comes
So come on let me in, I will be the sun.
I will wake up, I am who I was.
Just open up your heart, open up your heart,
Open up your heart!

I was Out On the Town,
So I came to your window last night.
I tried not to throw stones, but I wanted to come inside.
And now I'm causing a scene, thinking you need a reason to smile.
Oh no, what have I done?
There's no one to keep me warm.


MEANING AND STORY
Out On the Town tells of a strong love for a his girlfriend/lover. He is constantly saying in different ways that he wants to spend more time with her. A time when we see this is when he says in the chorus, " I tried not to throw stones, but I wanted to come inside". This is implying that he wants to come in her house and be with her, but since it is nighttime, all the doors are locked. He does not want to throw stones because it might wake her up, damage their relationship, and maybe even set off an alarm. And in case you were wondering "throwing stones" is meaning a way to break the window so he can get in her house. Not to rob, obviously, but to be with her.


Kumquatodor

Con

About the forfeit: school has come back and so my punctuality has been lit on fire, extinguish with urine, ate by a cat (which got its stomach pumpted), and finally sent to Russia to educate them on George Carlin's Conductor's hat. I am NOT asking for the forfeit to be forgiven (I probably could have responded on time); I felt you all deserved some sort of explanation, even though this is a terrible one. I will have to take a break from debating, but I intend to finish this one.

On to the debate!
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I choose: Walk the Line


I keep a close watch on this heart of mine,
I keep my eyes wide open all the time,
I keep the ends out for the tie that binds,
Because you're mine, I walk the line.

I find it very, very easy to be true,
I find myself alone when each day's through,
Yes, I'll admit that I'm a fool for you,
Because you're mine, I walk the line.

As sure as night is dark and day is light,
I keep you on my mind both day and night,
And happiness I've known proves that it's right,
Because you're mine, I walk the line.

You've got a way to keep me on your side,
You give me cause for love that I can't hide,
For you I know I'd even try to turn the tide,
Because you're mine, I walk the line.

I keep a close watch on this heart of mine,
I keep my eyes wide open all the time,
I keep the ends out for the tie that binds,
Because you're mine, I walk the line.

Meaning
This narrarator is reassuring lover that he will remain faithful and won't cheat. Some lyrics, however, suggest that he is in denial about how easy it is to resist temptation.

Debate Round No. 4
PatriotPerson

Pro

No probs, Fruit. We all oughtta miss a round at least once, it's a mark of becoming a debater. Choosing Fun. songs is a toughie, all their songs are so good. However, I chose a song that you probably haven't heard of: All Alone. It goes like this:

I fell in love with a wind-up souvenir
I bought it downtown, as I was on my way to meet you.
She sounds like the songs you used to sing to put me to sleep,
But now that you're gone, she's all I have left to hold.

And I feel so All Alone,
no one's gonna fix me when I'm broke.
How do you cry with inanimate eyes?
You're never gonna smile with the way that you are.
And I feel so All Alone, I feel so All Alone

I gave her to you (I don't need a toy)
I thought you might appreciate (I don't like the way that she moves)
The way that she dances, the painted look upon her face
She must've come from the sun, I wanna take her through the park
Where she'd tell me I'm all that she wants (Speaking of which...)
If she could even talk!

I feel so All Alone,
no one's gonna fix me when I'm broke.
How do you cry with inanimate eyes?
You're never gonna smile with the way that you are.
And I feel so All Alone, I feel so All Alone.

And she sits on my shelf,
it makes me think of you.
The way she carries the things that remind me of who
We used to be before we became antiques

She's a lot like you,
But if I hold her too tight, I know she'll break.
It just takes some glue to stay.

And I feel so All Alone,
No one's gonna fix me when I'm broke.
How do you cry with inanimate eyes?
You're never gonna smile with the way that you are.
And I feel so All Alone, I feel so All Alone.

(Side Note: I type these lyrics straight from my brain, I have most of Fun.'s songs memorized, and that includes this one).


MEANING & STORY

All Alone (As my friends and I think) tells the story of a man who loses his mother and tries to make up with his sadness and greivances with an unintentionally bad girlfriend that he compares to a wind-up toy. If you wanna know about what I mean by his mother dying, read the 3rd line in the first vers-y paragraph thing. And when he says "As I was on my way to meet you", I assume this means he is going to the cemetery to visit her grave. Sadness.




Kumquatodor

Con

Kumquatodor forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by PatriotPerson 4 years ago
PatriotPerson
Both of those, Stonewall.
Posted by Stonewall 4 years ago
Stonewall
...is this a battle of lyrics, or musical ability of each respective artist?
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Vote Placed by leojm 4 years ago
leojm
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro was more convincing. Both sides did a fantastic job. Spelling and sources were at a tie.