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Must the ether exist?

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Started: 1/18/2014 Category: Science
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Fukkum

Con

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Definition

ether (aether) - a particle in the Universe
Debate Round No. 1
Fukkum

Con

Presentations

The Sun goes through a process called "radiation" (Transfer of energy through space). It radiates light. However, light has to travel through what we call a medium. Mass. There are 3 states of matter: Solid, liquid, and gas. Anything that's neither of those would originally not have mass (Which would be space). So, how does it travel? Well, nonetheless, space is occupiable by matter.
PhilosophicalPerson

Pro

However, since we both believe in the Big Bang theory:

According to the 2nd law of thermodynamics, everything tends toward disorder. So, if after the Big Bang, all this mass moved out, along with the Universe's expansion, at this point in time, it must be far away from us, far enough that our forces no longer affect it. So, it must not be here. So, tell me: What matter will occupy the space?
Debate Round No. 2
Fukkum

Con

Rebuttal

No, no, and no! This is a self-contradiction. So, if the galaxy's gravitational pull can affect more than up until how large the Universe is now (As you say), then that gravity would have already caught that mass. If it weren't, as according to the law of Inertia, everything in motion remains in motion and everything at rest remains at rest until acted upon by a force, it would still, by now, be moving out, along with the Universe's expansion.
PhilosophicalPerson

Pro

However, when the Sun radiates light, when the light travels through the ether as a medium to Earth, when the gravitational pull of the Galaxy captured it, it, however, is not between, or next to either, the Sun and the Earth, thus that matter captured doesn't really make a pathway, but the ether is.

Also, how did the ether get there? Possibly convertion? Fusion?
Debate Round No. 3
Fukkum

Con

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PhilosophicalPerson

Pro

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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by prokaryoticeukaryote 3 years ago
prokaryoticeukaryote
Light DOES have a medium. It's called the electromagnetic field! If you like, you can think about it as physical stuff that doesn't behave like matter. That field is mediated by photons, which are quanta, just like matter fields are mediated by matter quanta.

It isn't necessary to postulate another medium when one already exists.
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