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Mutations are not beneficial, and therefore cannot be used as evidence for evolution.

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Started: 3/26/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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E-L-L-E-N

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Contrary to popular belief, mutations are very rare and in the occasion that they do happen, they are actually very harmful. Def of Mutation: "the changing of the structure of a gene, resulting in a variant form that may be transmitted to subsequent generations, caused by the alteration of single base units in DNA, or the deletion, insertion, or rearrangement of larger sections of genes or chromosomes."

Look forward to debating :)
RoyalFlush100

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Mutations can be harmful, neutral, or beneficial. For example, some bacteria have become resistant to certain antibiotics through genetic mutation (which they can then pass down). (1) This is a positive mutation for the survival and reproduction of bacteria because they can't be killed by antibiotics. Therefore, positive gene mutations do occur.

1-http://www.tufts.edu...
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Posted by chunkydude 2 years ago
chunkydude
lol. This is a conversation about semantics. Natural selection is not Macro-evolution, which is what the OP meant to debate. Adaptation is not equal to natural selection is not equal to macro-evolution(changes between species.)
Posted by Mike_10-4 2 years ago
Mike_10-4
Evolution is a function of flow in time:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

The symphony of flow conducted by the Laws of Nature in time presents life with Unalienable Rights:
Posted by Ragnar 2 years ago
Ragnar
Welcome to the site.

If you'd like I could accept this. I'm also open to a simple discussion on the topic. Or even couching you against whomever you debate.
Posted by AlternativeDavid 2 years ago
AlternativeDavid
There's no such thing as a "higher" life form. Evolution does not go from simple to complex. Evolution favors species or individuals that share a trait that is beneficial for a particular environment. Our intelligence, while useful, is not beneficial for the kind of environment that whales live in.
Posted by E-L-L-E-N 2 years ago
E-L-L-E-N
dsjpk5: Because as far as I know thats what evolution is, is it not. I mean simple to complex organisms right? According to the evolutionist, humans are evolving into a higher life form, so how can harmful mutations help evolution?
Posted by dsjpk5 2 years ago
dsjpk5
Need to be beneficial?
Posted by dsjpk5 2 years ago
dsjpk5
Why does evolution
Posted by E-L-L-E-N 2 years ago
E-L-L-E-N
To Finalfan: I took your advice and read some more about Laron Syndrome (which, I will be honest, I have never heard about). Given, Laron Syndrome is genetic mutation that protects against cancer and diabetes, the disorder stunts growth, can link to hyperglycemia (lack of glucose in blood), and people with this mutation tend to be slower learners. People with Laron Syndrom get enough of the hormone that is needed for growth, although the mutation prevents that hormone from getting where it needs to go.
So, is this mutation really helping the human race evolve? Probably not. Not only is it HIGHLY rare, to evolve means for something to develop into something MORE useful, not harmful. Sickle Cell Anemia can help with resistance to malaria and an immunity to HIV, but take into thought the harmful aspects of it too :)
Posted by Finalfan 2 years ago
Finalfan
Laron syndrome: a genetic mutation that protects against cancer and diabetes.
Some genetic mutations like Sickle Cell Anemia can yield resistance to malaria, and immunity to HIV

Read more : http://www.ehow.com...

Not trying to throw salt in your game. Just thought you may want to rethink the title of this.
Posted by E-L-L-E-N 2 years ago
E-L-L-E-N
Thanks. :) I will post a def. From Google: "the changing of the structure of a gene, resulting in a variant form that may be transmitted to subsequent generations, caused by the alteration of single base units in DNA, or the deletion, insertion, or rearrangement of larger sections of genes or chromosomes." Also: spiderman is a fictional superhero........
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Reasons for voting decision: Here's the deal.. MOST mutations are not beneficial. It is true to say this... HOWEVER - when you say ALL mutations are not beneficial then this becomes an incorrect statement - factually. We know mutations that are useful are the ones that might fill a niche of some kind and then are passed on.. Its also true to say that this is very, very rare. Some mutations don't functionally serve a purpose and yet are still passed on... An example would be eye color. We know that several genes are related to eye color and pigmentation. But as far as being able to actually see better or worse due to eye color is not really a issue either way. So were left to conclude that lighter color eye color persists simply because we like different light color eyes. Anything other than darker brown eyes is commonly understood to be from mutations.