The Instigator
9spaceking
Pro (for)
Losing
8 Points
The Contender
AlexanderOc
Con (against)
Winning
17 Points

My opponent will contradict him/herself

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AlexanderOc
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/3/2014 Category: Games
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,920 times Debate No: 59897
Debate Rounds (4)
Comments (34)
Votes (7)

 

9spaceking

Pro

The resolution is simple. All I have to do is to get my opponent to contradict himself.
I get to ask 5 questions per round. (I can of course choose not to ask any questions within any round, but that would be stupid) My opponent can either answer "yes" or "no", but must choose an answer--he or she may not put a blank next to the question. He can lie of course, but I can ask a question twice, so I suggest telling the truth so that the second time I can't catch you off guard. Capitalization or lower-case will be treated exactly the same. That means "No" is "no" and "Yes" means the same thing as "yes".
I can challenge my opponent anytime to debate over whether he has contradicted himself within the answers of his or her questions, and my opponent gets the chance to rebut. If at the end my opponent cannot argue his way out of contradicting himself or herself, then he or she loses. He or she is allowed to use loopholes but nothing dumb or desperate.
Round one for my opponent is acceptance only.
AlexanderOc

Con

I accept.
Debate Round No. 1
9spaceking

Pro

Let's start out easy.
1. Are you a Christian?
2. Is your real name Alexander Oc?
3. Do you believe in the FSM? (Flying Spaghetti Monster)
4. Are you a mathematician?
5. Is the below equation true?
AlexanderOc

Con

1. Yes
2.Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. Yes
Debate Round No. 2
9spaceking

Pro

Okay, so my opponent hasn't contradicted himself. This round is slightly more difficult.

1. Is 1+1=2?
2. Have you watched any good shows lately?
3. Are you an athiest?
4. Will you answer "no" to the next question?
5. What was your answer to the previous question?

You see, while 1 to 3 are not intended to trip you, four and five are quite difficult to get past without a cunning loophole. Think about it carefully.

If you answer no: "No, I won't answer no to the next question....meaning I will answer yes to question five, but that wasn't my answer to the previous question....CONTRADICTION"

If you answer yes "Yes, I will answer no to question five...but I am forced to answer yes to question 5, so....CONTRADICTION"

Good luck finding a loophole around that. >:D
AlexanderOc

Con

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No
4. No
5. This question is not yes or no and therefore cannot be answered with yes/no. My opponent can only ask a yes/no question to get a yes/no response.
Debate Round No. 3
9spaceking

Pro

My opponent tries to wiggle his way out of my crazy paradox. However, question 5's answer is yes/no, since question 4 was obviously a yes/no question. In order for question 5 to be a NOT yes/no question, the answer to question number 4 must not be yes/no. However, my opponent does not argue that question 4's answer was neither yes nor no, and actually answered "no". He contradicted himself because "no" was his answer "to the previous question"--question 4, but my opponent answers "This question is not yes or no and therefore cannot be answered with yes/no. My opponent can only ask a yes/no question to get a yes/no response." This is not the answer to question number 4 and my opponent has thus contradicted himself. It's over--VOTE PRO.

A bunch of filler questions (to try to mess you up further)
1. Do you like waffles?
2. Do you play any sports?
3. Was your answer to question 1 "yes"?
4. Was your answer to question 2 not "no"?
5. Was your answer to question 4 "no"?
AlexanderOc

Con

1. No
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. No


Start a question with "what" implies that it is not yes/no, whether or not those are the available answers. "What is you favorite color?" is asking for an example out of an assumed set. Yes is not a viable answer to that question.
My opponent cannot ask a "what" question when the only responses I'm allowed are yes/no, regardless of context.
I've made no contradictions because my answer to the "next" question was not "no", since 5 was a void question. Were 5 a yes/no question, it wouldn't be unanswerable and therefore not void.

No contradictions have been made.
Good debate.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by 9spaceking 2 years ago
9spaceking
no, I'm not. You can ask everyone that voted on the 1-gap debate and they'll tell you I never asked them to vote-bomb me. Or visit their profile to see what I said to them.
Posted by Wylted 2 years ago
Wylted
9space are you seriously asking people to vote bomb for you? Wtf is wrong with you?
Posted by 9spaceking 2 years ago
9spaceking
I don't know...somebody votebomb for me for no good reason.
Please see this debate: http://www.debate.org...
even I agree I lost it, XD
Posted by AlexanderOc 2 years ago
AlexanderOc
i never contradicted myself, I won the debate, but I get voted down for not falling into pro's trap? What?
Posted by AlexanderOc 2 years ago
AlexanderOc
Just to point out, FuzzyCatPatato, there were more than Y/N for #5. I was just restricted by the rules to say yes or no, that doesn't mean the only answer for #5 was Y/N.
Posted by 9spaceking 2 years ago
9spaceking
lolz....
Posted by AlexanderOc 2 years ago
AlexanderOc
Don't worry, I won't accept next time you make a debate like this. That'll give you a chance to win.
Posted by 9spaceking 2 years ago
9spaceking
dammit, I'm losing this
Posted by AlexanderOc 2 years ago
AlexanderOc
You can't keep putting it different ways and expecting the point make anymore sense. My options were yes or no. Both events are only able to happen seperate of one another because my opponent uses or. Nothing is implied, that is how the word or is used. You cannot just deny a definition.
Posted by Walt 2 years ago
Walt
Let me put it a different way. It's like saying use either yes or no in your argument. Nothing says only use one and that is what you seem to continually fail to understand.
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Reasons for voting decision: Very funny debate. Pro almost got Con, but Con saw that one of the questions wasn't even a yes/no question.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro failed in the BoP to get Con to contradict them self.
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Reasons for voting decision: "5. What was your answer to the previous question?" Replying with "this is not a yes or no question" is not the right answer, which is why I give the edge to Pro. Although Con never contradicted himself, and he did win the debate, he did wiggle his way out of a question in which he could have easily answered yes or no.
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Reasons for voting decision: I give credit for it being clever, con had to break from the setup in order to win, but he did indeed win.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro started a question with "what," which can't possibly be yes or no. He also aske void questions, Con did not CONtradict himself at all.
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Reasons for voting decision: #5 was Y/N, because the full set of answers was Y/N.
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Reasons for voting decision: 9spaceking was trying to win an easy debate by tricking AlexanderOc but space king executed it poorly