National Prayer
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16kadams
| Started: | 4/26/2012 | Category: | Society |
| Updated: | 1 year ago | Status: | Post Voting Period |
| Viewed: | 344 times | Debate No: | 23218 |
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 Pro Reason 1- By allowing national prayer, we respect our founding father's laws set up for us. Reason 2- National prayer allows for people to express their true feelings. Please comment on how I can improve in future debates. Thank you!  Con 1. we respect our founding father's laws set up for us. In the US people are already given the right to pray, public or in private, as contra points out in the comments kids already are allowed to pray in schools, as long as its not lead by a principle, therefore we can assume the founding fathers would not mind this change (making teachers lead it makes it look like atheism is frowned upon, and hurts the 1st amendment to freedom of religion.) 2. Feelings people can already prayer, even in public, therefore their "feelings" are already expressed. Reasons against: 1. first amendment 1st amendment means the government cannot allow national prayer (so they do not respect the religion) and cannot be anti prayer, so they allow private prayer. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" [1] national prayer respects religion, hence it is unconstitutional to have national prayer. VOTE PRO *no more room* [1] http://tinyurl... |
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Vote Placed by Microsuck 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Obvious troll is obvious.
Vote Placed by ScarletGhost4396 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Uses stronger resources, and because of the stronger resources, his arguments have much more backing and a stronger rebuttal.
Vote Placed by Contra 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: CON proved his case (using my comment) and also refuted PRO's contentions adequately.
Vote Placed by larztheloser 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro could improve by fully substantiating his contentions (ie more than 1 sentence per argument). Con did a good job with few characters, but could have been more character-efficient with his structure. Pro had BOP and failed to substantiate it, plus neg was able to do some fair rebuttal. Neg win.
Prayer in schools is already allowed. The only thing that is banned is prayer led by a principal, or teacher. Students can pray whenever they want in school, there is plenty of freaking free time in the school day.