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National Prayer

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16kadams
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/26/2012 Category: Society
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Jacket123

Pro

This is a debate about whether national prayer should be allowed. There are 2 reasons for this:

Reason 1- By allowing national prayer, we respect our founding father's laws set up for us.

Reason 2- National prayer allows for people to express their true feelings.

Please comment on how I can improve in future debates. Thank you!
16kadams

Con

1. we respect our founding father's laws set up for us.

In the US people are already given the right to pray, public or in private, as contra points out in the comments kids already are allowed to pray in schools, as long as its not lead by a principle, therefore we can assume the founding fathers would not mind this change (making teachers lead it makes it look like atheism is frowned upon, and hurts the 1st amendment to freedom of religion.)

2. Feelings

people can already prayer, even in public, therefore their "feelings" are already expressed.

Reasons against:

1. first amendment

1st amendment means the government cannot allow national prayer (so they do not respect the religion) and cannot be anti prayer, so they allow private prayer.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" [1]

national prayer respects religion, hence it is unconstitutional to have national prayer. VOTE PRO *no more room*

[1] http://tinyurl.com...
Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by 1dustpelt 5 years ago
1dustpelt
Define national prayer.
Posted by Contra 5 years ago
Contra
UHHHHH

Prayer in schools is already allowed. The only thing that is banned is prayer led by a principal, or teacher. Students can pray whenever they want in school, there is plenty of freaking free time in the school day.
Posted by 16kadams 5 years ago
16kadams
Is the prayer mandatory?
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Reasons for voting decision: Obvious troll is obvious.
Vote Placed by ScarletGhost4396 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: CON proved his case (using my comment) and also refuted PRO's contentions adequately.
Vote Placed by larztheloser 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro could improve by fully substantiating his contentions (ie more than 1 sentence per argument). Con did a good job with few characters, but could have been more character-efficient with his structure. Pro had BOP and failed to substantiate it, plus neg was able to do some fair rebuttal. Neg win.