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WeTheMillinnials
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subgenius
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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/19/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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WeTheMillinnials

Pro

As a millennial, am I the only one noticing we haven't been using modern technology (supercomputers, smartphones, and other devices that connect everyone and everything in it) to our advantage? With Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc. taking up everyones time I think we have been overlooking the potential political advantage these devices could provide for our generation.
As a backdrop for my argument I think I can assume WE all believe congress and government in general is becoming more and more corrupt with every election (based off record low approval ratings). However, We The People still continue to vote into office the same people we are unhappy with. Why? Maybe because we feel hopeless, misinformed, and minute compared to these career politicians that continually propagate corruption.
I would like to suggest a futuristic and corruption free government with the help and use of atomic supercomputers. Picture logging onto a website so secure it would take a technical complex larger that google to hack (making voters feel more secure). You have the options of opening a local, state, or federal topic form with issues that relate to your local, state, or federal laws and bills. Here you can get consolidated and factual information from private companies that have no reason to be biased for or against an issue. You then have one vote on the issues related to you which will be viewed by a single president and his cabinet that YOU THE VOTER bring into office. He will log onto this website as well and be able to see directly (without interference from hackers because of the supercomputers) what major issues We The People see that needs to be fixed based on an interactive and integrated map of the responses from the participants. To incentivize this website we would give (lets say 1%) tax cuts to those who participate.
This would eliminate the need for congress, which might seem extreme to most, but think about it. Getting rid of the two party, corrupt, old, and deadlocked congress we have right now and opening up this office basically to everyone for a vote on every MAJOR issue would end corruption, gridlock, and the two party system. Also, making the voter feel more hopeful, informed, and important in each issue.
subgenius

Con

while one may argue that the imbecilic launch of the healthcare.gov website may be an introduction to the concept you are describing here, it becomes impractical for "Representatives" to be displaced by digital media, both from a Constitutional position and from a practical-who-has-the-time-to-author-read-and-vote-on-everything position.
Debate Round No. 1
WeTheMillinnials

Pro

"Who-has-the-time"? Everyone has the time to, or should make the time to, participate in our democracy. Why? Because of the almost 20% and rising unemployment rate. Some of these people sit at home with nothing to do all day and have no desire to self educate. Not just politically, but generally. I think what I was trying to get at here is we need an educational revolution in our country starting with the youngest generation.
"Education is teaching our children to desire the right things."
R13; Plato
subgenius

Con

1. 15% of Americans do not use the Internet (that is 1 for every 7) [1]. So your policy automatically disenfranchises about 36 million adults from participating freely in the democratic process[2].

2. Unemployment rate has not gone over 10% in the past 10 years, currently it is at 6.6% [3]

3. An "education revolution" would imply, and necessitate, having the government be less involved with education - electronic or otherwise.

4. Education, Unemployment, time, Direct Democracy[4] via the internet, etc.. your argument is all over the place and somewhat incoherent at this point. Ironically, your viewpoint is more in line with Anarchists and Communists [5]

[1] http://www.foxnews.com...
[2] http://quickfacts.census.gov...
[3] http://data.bls.gov...
[4] http://en.wikipedia.org...
[5] http://en.wikipedia.org...
Debate Round No. 2
WeTheMillinnials

Pro

WeTheMillinnials forfeited this round.
subgenius

Con

Direct democracy via the Internet is impractical given the modern limitations of technology and of access to technology.
Furthermore the amount of legislation and administration involved in our modern society would overwhelm the time constraints required to allow for "every" person to vote on everything.
Your original premise is science fiction.
Debate Round No. 3
WeTheMillinnials

Pro

WeTheMillinnials forfeited this round.
subgenius

Con

As an indulgence, please notice the following reiteration:
Direct democracy via the Internet is impractical given the modern limitations of technology and of access to technology.
Furthermore the amount of legislation and administration involved in our modern society would overwhelm the time constraints required to allow for "every" person to vote on everything.
Your original premise is science fiction.
Debate Round No. 4
WeTheMillinnials

Pro

WeTheMillinnials forfeited this round.
subgenius

Con

Direct democracy via the Internet is impractical given the modern limitations of technology and of access to technology.
Debate Round No. 5
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Vote Placed by Actionsspeak 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Forfeit, con had great sourcing and his arguments went unrefutated.
Vote Placed by Krazzy_Player 3 years ago
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Vote Placed by Zarroette 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: In the second round, Con's arguments were succinct and brutal. They were heavily sourced, especially considering the little amount written. Pro badly needed to address these counter-arguments, but failed to respond.