Nihilism is Valid
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This is the first debate in which I have been the instigator, so, my apologies for inclarity.
Nihilism, aka the idea that in the grand perspective, individuals are insignificant, is valid.
Burden of Proof:
There is no BoP in this debate. There is no proof in most philosophical questions. Whoever makes the best argument wins.
NIHILISM- defined above
THE GRAND PERSPECTIVE- from an unbiased point of view, on a large scale
INDIVIDUAL- A human being
INSIGNIFICANT- Inconsequential, not worthy of note
VALID- so constructed that if the premises are jointly asserted, the conclusion cannot be denied without contradiction
Round 1: Acceptance and Opening Statements
Round 2: Refutations
Round 3: Counter-Refutations
Round 4: Final Defence, Refutations, and Closing Statements
There is a reason we scold children for thinking the world revolves around them. this line of thinking is steeped in self-importance and narcissism. There are billions and billions of stars in our galaxy alone, and millions upon millions of galaxies. Life on Earth is nothing but a complex chemical reaction. There is no supreme being who cares for us. To quote Carl Sagan:
"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam."
I accept to debate that Nihilism, as defined by Pro, is NOT valid.
By making the claim that we are insignificant as individuals, Nihilists are showing a bias against us as individuals and in favor of what they consider more noteworthy. Their point of view is not unbiased. Therefore, it is not valid to say that we as individuals are insignificant from an unbiased point of view.
Thank you for your time. I eagerly await Pro's refutations.
We may be unbiased, but our goal as rational thinkers is to try not to be. We attempt to figure out what a completely unbiased mind would think of human society, and we reason it would not bat an eye at the entirety of our species' accomplishment, let alone any particular individual.
That we are a single stage of a reaction does not make us less significant than the reaction its self. From an unbiased point of view there is no such thing as significance; nothing is significant, nothing is insignificant. All there is... is stages and reactions. The significance given to these stages and reactions is the result of our biased minds. Your mind has a bias against us as individuals and in favor of what you consider more significant. That sort of bias will not contribute to your survival, nor is it valid because it can't be said that we are insignificant from an unbiased point of view.
Back to Pro now!
Back to Con!
Back to Pro!
INSIGNIFICANT- Inconsequential, not worthy of note"
Quite simply, insignificance is the lack of significance. It is not too small to be noteworthy. It is just not noteworthy. And from an unbiased point of view, nothing on Earth is noteworthy.
I have made claims that individuals, or even life in general, are insignificant. Con has countered with questioning the Nihilist lack of bias. I responded that the goal of Nihilism was to remove bias, an apt refutation. Con then attempted to claim that I play favorites with the universe. I replied with voicing my beliefs that significance is a myth. Con's final point was that insignificance is nonexistent, which he would have realized is invalid should he have re-read the definitions provided in Round 1. He has failed to successfully address my main point, that of the insignificance of everything.
I await your response.
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