The Instigator
Glitch_brown
Pro (for)
Losing
3 Points
The Contender
9spaceking
Con (against)
Winning
11 Points

Nothing says american more than guns

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9spaceking
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/12/2014 Category: Economics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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Votes (3)

 

Glitch_brown

Pro

guns are the best thing ever and without them we would never have are independents we would just be another one of Britain's colonies.
9spaceking

Con

And without the American flag we wouldn't be "America" at all!


Debate Round No. 1
Glitch_brown

Pro

yes we could we would just have different flag. but in the case of guns we would not be america because in war swords and bows vs guns and cannons the person with the guns will win 9 out of 10 times.
9spaceking

Con

If we had a different flag we wouldn't be America.
Did we need guns at all? The British would have to cut us off if we kept on threatening them, even without the use of guns.

Also, the resolution is "Nothing says american more than guns". But guns speak China too. They speak Britain. They outspeak any country that uses guns. If a country equally uses guns as US, then guns only speak americas equally as other countries, not any more.
Debate Round No. 2
Glitch_brown

Pro

but arn't we the only country that does not have any gun control laws so we have more love for guns because we wont let them go
9spaceking

Con

It is exactly because of lack of gun control that the US does not speak more gun than other countries. Studies have found that countries with gun control actually have higher homocidial rates.
http://www.gunfacts.info...
Therefore a country with heavy gun control--leading to higher homocidial rates because the criminals use more guns than the people, and dare to hurt them, rather in America where criminals don't dare use guns because people might own them--those countries speak more of gun than America.

In conclusion the American flag speaks America far more than guns. Guns are too common, even though America has loose gun policies, other countries have loose gun policies too. Not only so, the lack of gun control may be why my opponent's case defeats itself; other countries with heavier gun control might actually have more gun-related crimes. On the other hand, the American is the American flag. There is no other country that has the American flag. Truly, nothing speaks more about America than its flag. VOTE ME.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by cheyennebodie 2 years ago
cheyennebodie
That incident at Sandyhook would have been a lot different if a good guy with a gun was there.Instead the principle attacked with a pencil.If rhe had a gun, she would have been a hero instead of a martyr.Why do you think that even that school hired ex-military to patrol their schools.Kind of closing the barn door after the horse got out. The smart schools hired people with guns to patrol their schools after that. There was a school near here that put up a sign saying they were a gun free zone. That is how upside down liberalism is. There are schools, especially where democrats are not in charge that posted signs saying they had armed people in the school. Now which one would a crazy go to?Like you said. They commit suicide most of the time.That is usually when a good guy shows up with a gun. The sooner those freaks shoot themselves the better.
Posted by flet107 2 years ago
flet107
Do you think that the 26 men women and small children ruthlessly gunned down at Sandy Hook Elementary would agree with your statement that "guns are the best thing ever" ? Also your argument that lack of guns would have prevented the American Revolution is childish and easily refutable. Do you know that swords could also have been used as well. There would still have been a revolution undoubtedly.
Posted by Way2CheesE 2 years ago
Way2CheesE
Are you serious? Guns caused Millions and I say MILLIONS of people to die. For example! World War 1, World War 2, Every Day Crimes, do I need to go on?
Posted by ShikenNuggets 2 years ago
ShikenNuggets
Also, just saying, America didn't really need a revolution. Britain would have cut you guys loose eventually. I mean, look at Canada. We sort of just asked nicely.
Posted by cheyennebodie 2 years ago
cheyennebodie
As long as there are people out there that want what is not theirs by force, guns are the best deterrent. That includes a criminal government.The second amendment has slowed the democrats from imposing full scaled communism on America.
Posted by moneystacker 2 years ago
moneystacker
i agree pro should just be proving that guns are American
Posted by ShikenNuggets 2 years ago
ShikenNuggets
The title of the debate and your argument are inconsistent, what exactly is being debated here?
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Reasons for voting decision: Um. Pro's arguments were really weak. Con's on the other hand, were actually related and made sense.
Vote Placed by kasmic 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro had no sources. Con shows that guns are as much chinese as American.... Or any other country. Arguments to con as the American flag says american more than guns.
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Reasons for voting decision: Neither gave great reasons but Pro atleast had some decent ones