The Instigator
545jthegeec
Pro (for)
Losing
1 Points
The Contender
Double_R
Con (against)
Winning
58 Points

Obama is an idiot.

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Double_R
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/15/2011 Category: Politics
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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545jthegeec

Pro

Everything is debateable. Agree/Disagree? Anything to add?
Double_R

Con

Not exactly the quality resolution I prefer, but I was bored.

Idiot: a person affected with extreme mental retardation, a foolish or stupid person
http://www.merriam-webster.com...

The burden is on Pro. Please explain how Obama fits this description.

Debate Round No. 1
545jthegeec

Pro

Torture though it was, I sat through the entire Obama ("We need to pass health care legislation now or Americans will die!") speech to a joint session of Congress. Although one could easily write a few hundred paragraphs of criticism, it's worth just a few to focus on one item that proves Obama is an idiot.

Obama says his plan will prohibit health insurance carriers from turning down an applicant because of any pre-existing condition. Obama also says that everyone who does not have health insurance will be required to buy a policy.

Leaving aside the fact that forcing anyone to buy something he or she does not want to buy is clearly unconstitutional, let's take the above two "Obama rules" and apply them to a living, breathing (albeit fictional) American. You know how it will turn out. Obama is crazy, and that therefore implies he is an idiot.

(BTW DEMOCRATS ALWAYS RUIN THE FUN!!)
Double_R

Con

Pro supports his resolution by providing two phrases from Obama’s healthcare speech:

Obama says his plan will prohibit health insurance carriers from turning down an applicant because of any pre-existing condition.”

It will. What is your point?

“Obama also says that everyone who does not have health insurance will be required to buy a policy.”

That’s kind of the idea.

Pro then states that we should take these two examples and apply them to a living, breathing human being. Ok. According to these two statements the result will be that every living breathing human being will have health care coverage. This does not make Obama an idiot.
Debate Round No. 2
545jthegeec

Pro

But what about the poor people living in poverty? if they don't have enough money to eat, how will they afford health insurance? This is rediculus. how stupid can democrat's ideas get? This shows how stupid and idiotic democrats
are!
Double_R

Con

Pro has now shifted his “argument” from “Obama is an idiot”, to “all democrats are idiots”, however all he has done in this last round is ask questions. Having questions about a piece of legislation does not show that anyone is an idiot, it shows that the asker needs to do more research. Pro has made no attempt to uphold his own BoP.

Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by CRBarrow 5 years ago
CRBarrow
Pro, your acting like Crpyto247, please be a little more mature... Your arguments prove nothing but you don't know how to debate.
Posted by Mr.VicePresident 5 years ago
Mr.VicePresident
i agree
Posted by danjr10 5 years ago
danjr10
pro needs to explain how obama is an unreliable president with fact not opinion
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Reasons for voting decision: I think this is pretty straight forward.
Vote Placed by lotus_flower 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro didn't really prove much of anything, aside from the fact that he is a republican, who cannot comprehend the healthcare bill. He used ad homonym. "how stupid can democrat's ideas get?" and misspelled ridiculous."rediculus"
Vote Placed by F-16_Fighting_Falcon 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Arguments, SG, and Conduct are obvious.
Vote Placed by XiaoFei98 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Sorry Pro.
Vote Placed by Mr.VicePresident 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: He's a nice guy
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Reasons for voting decision: pro needs to prove obma is an idiot! con didn't have to do anything!
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Reasons for voting decision: This was a really bad debate.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro failed to offer a criteria for idiocy and merely ranted...Comments like, "how stupid can democrat's ideas get? This shows how stupid and idiotic democrats are" not only display Pro's lack of comment, refusal to use evidence, and in addition shifting the topic...
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Reasons for voting decision: PRO failed to satisfy BoP and made weak args.