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JustCallMeTarzan
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The Contender
Harbalalism
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On Balance, Non-Cognitivism is the Proper Moral Model

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JustCallMeTarzan
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 9/6/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,075 times Debate No: 9410
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JustCallMeTarzan

Pro

Since DATCMOTO has cowardly refused to defend his position on this topic (twice) I open it to all...

The proposition on offer is that there are simply no moral truths. In short, morality is non-cognitive in nature.

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Relevant Definitions:

Morality: conformity to the rules of right conduct; moral or virtuous conduct. (http://dictionary.reference.com...)

Moral Proposition : a statement of the form X is right/wrong. Example: slavery is wrong.

Moral Truth : The ability to describe a moral proposition as true or false.

Truth Value : the designation True or False.

Cognitive : the position that moral propositions have a truth value.

Non-Cognitive : the position that moral propositions have no truth value.

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Contentions:

1) Cognitive morality consists of the following viewpoints.
-----a) All moral propositions are false (error theory)
-----b) At least 1 moral proposition is true
----------i) Subjectivism (whatever I say goes)
----------ii) Conventionalism (whatever most people say goes)
----------iii) Idealism (whatever John Doe would say goes)
----------iv) Religious appeal (whatever God says goes)
-----c) Naturalism
----------i) Analytic (nature describes what goes)
----------ii) Reductive (we can infer what goes)

2) All of the above points have at least 1 problem with them.

3) Until these problems are solved, rational beings should endorse non-cognitivism in theory, if not in practice.

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I've made this debate 4 rounds because I don't believe CON will want to argue all of the cognitive points, so I'll let him choose which one(s) to defend and we'll start actual argumentation in the 2nd round.

As always, comments are welcome before the debate commences to clarify terms, etc...
Harbalalism

Con

I would like to thank my opponent for this interesting topic
Debate Round No. 1
JustCallMeTarzan

Pro

Really? Get out of here you troll.. (Look at this guy's other "debates").

No contentions made by my opponent.

Winning contention: All cognitive systems have a definitional problem in defining "the good" or "good."

It will go unopposed.Vote Pro.

AFFIRMED.
Debate Round No. 2
JustCallMeTarzan

Pro

Apparently the troll has conceded.

AFFIRMED.
Harbalalism

Con

Harbalalism forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
JustCallMeTarzan

Pro

Oops - looks like the troll's account got deleted...

Arguments stand.

AFFIRMED.
Harbalalism

Con

Harbalalism forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
8 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 8 records.
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
I'm so glad to see Harbaialism gone.
Posted by JustCallMeTarzan 7 years ago
JustCallMeTarzan
Heh - Con's account is gone... autowin!
Posted by JustCallMeTarzan 7 years ago
JustCallMeTarzan
Just report his profile... he's done this in a lot of other debates. Gotta take out the trash sometime... Worthless pile of poo - prolly a puppet account of DAT's
Posted by Alex 7 years ago
Alex
Please surprise us and come up with something Herb.
Posted by Harbalalism 7 years ago
Harbalalism
that will never happen
Posted by Charlie_Danger 7 years ago
Charlie_Danger
What if Herbalism just replied with this perfectly articulated, drawn out, perfect argument destroying your constructive?
Posted by Maikuru 7 years ago
Maikuru
*sad face
Posted by Maikuru 7 years ago
Maikuru
Favorite'd, for what it's worth.
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