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One plus one equals two

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/15/2011 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Voting Period
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QT

Pro

Resolved: One plus one equals two

Definitions:

One: The first and lowest whole number

Two: The second whole number, coming after one

Round one will be for acceptance only!
MasterDuctTaper

Con

I accept.
Debate Round No. 1
QT

Pro

I'll begin this round by defining one additional term:

Whole number: a natural number
http://en.wikipedia.org...


Now, I will demonstrate that one plus one equals two in a mathematical proof:

Let S be the successor function. By standard definition,

1 = S(0)

2 = S(1)

a + S(b) = S(a + b)

Therefore,

a + 1 = a + S(0) = S(a)

1 + 1 = 1 + S(0) = S(1) = 2

QED


I urge everyone to vote pro!

References:
http://en.wikipedia.org...


MasterDuctTaper

Con

1 + 1 doesn't always equal two.

a = 1
b = 1

Set a = b;

Then multiply each side by a:
a^2 = ab;

Then subtract b^2 from each side:
a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2;

Now factor each side:
(a+b)(a-b) = b(a-b);

Now divide each side by (a-b):
a+b = b;

In other words:
1 + 1 = 1
Debate Round No. 2
QT

Pro

In the final step of my opponent's "proof", she divides both sides of the equation by (a-b).

However, a-b = 0, and division by zero is impossible (1).

Therefore, 1 + 1 ≠ 1


References:
(1) http://en.wikipedia.org...
MasterDuctTaper

Con

If you combine the symbol 1 with the symbol 1, you have 11.

1 + 1 = 11

Vote con!
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by QT 5 years ago
QT
The font I used DID appear normal on my computer screen:
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Posted by m93samman 5 years ago
m93samman
Divide by (a-b)... lol...
Posted by LeoL 5 years ago
LeoL
a and b are different values, however 1 and 1 are similar values. Cons reasoning isn't legitimate.
Posted by ThunderNick 5 years ago
ThunderNick
troll debate?
Posted by QT 5 years ago
QT
Was there something wrong with the font I used? It appeared normal on my computer screen...
Posted by QT 5 years ago
QT
For those who found my argument to be confusing, I recommend reading this wikipedia article. The section on addition is particularly applicable.
http://en.wikipedia.org...
Posted by Koopin 5 years ago
Koopin
For those who don't know, this is what Pro said (using word translator).

"
I'll begin this round by defining one additional term:

Whole number: a natural number
http://en.wikipedia.org......

Now, I will demonstrate that one plus one equals two in a mathematical proof:

Let S be the successor function. By standard definition,
1 = S(0)

2 = S(1)
a + S(b) = S(a + b)
Therefore,
a + 1 = a + S(0) = S(a)
1 + 1 = 1 + S(0) = S(1) = 2
QED

I urge everyone to vote pro!

References:
http://en.wikipedia.org......
Posted by Koopin 5 years ago
Koopin
pro wins.
Posted by BennyW 5 years ago
BennyW
Why would you use that font? I figured it out by pasting it into Word and changing the font but that just seems unnecessarily complicated.
Posted by BennyW 5 years ago
BennyW
Um what are you trying to prove in the second round?
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro did an excellent job in refuting con's argument by pointing out the error. The last argument really was if anything a confusion of symbols with their meaning.
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Reasons for voting decision: Very interesting arguments on both sides. Pro wins for adequately refuting Cons case. Cons final argument should have been made sooner, and did not give Pro a chance to refute. Pro looses conduct for using Wing Dings forcing the voters and his opponent to translate to understand his argument.
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Reasons for voting decision: Protip: You can't divide by zero
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Reasons for voting decision: the wingings kinda messed it up...
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Reasons for voting decision: Con's argument makes sense. 1 1 can equal eleven and it could also equal 1. Combine 1 bag of sugar with 1 bag of sugar and you still get 1 bag of sugar. It's just a bigger bag.
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Reasons for voting decision: Interesting debate but in the end one plus one equals two
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Reasons for voting decision: Interesting approaches from both sides.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con divides by zero, doesn't refute that, then introduces a new argument in the last round. I'm giving 6 to counter Spartan's lack of an RFD, otherwise it'd be args and conduct.
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Reasons for voting decision: ........TIE!!!!!!