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victoriaronan
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JoJoju1998
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Open Borders for Living/Travelling

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Started: 3/4/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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victoriaronan

Pro

I believe the borders of all countries should be open and free for all humans. If one lives in the U.S. and wants to live in Cuba or travel to Germany, they should need no passport or visa. We as humans should be able to go where we please on this Earth.
This debate can be strongly affiliated with the U.S./Mexico border dispute.
JoJoju1998

Con

If we open our borders, then terrorists can go in and terrorize our citizens. Illegal Immigrants will come in here with no intent of becoming citizens and live off welfare and food stamps. You say that we should be able to go wherever we want. You are proposing that we allow drug dealers to come into this country and trade drugs. National Security will be threanted because Terrorists and spies will come in here and kill innocent children and take military secrets. In our Bill of rights, no where does it say that we can go wherever we want. I will wait for your response.

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Debate Round No. 1
victoriaronan

Pro

I find many of your arguments to be things that are inevitable in today's world or in general.
1. "Terrorists can go in and terrorize our citizens." Terrorists already come in. And is it okay that the U.S. government intervenes with other countries' business? Such as Middle East War, Syria, Vietnam, ect. ect. No, it's not. We are not the only country being terrorized. In fact we terrorize other countries' citizens.
2. Illegals. Not all illegals come here for that, they come here for a better life. What makes a person who comes here legally okay to use American welfare versus someone who is not legal. They can still get on welfare, how does it make a difference? It doesn't. What makes people who live here getting welfare any different? It doesn't. Most of the time illegals don't even get help, because they can't. They work slave labour and barely get paid, with no taxes, but help to stimulate YOUR economy. We shouldn't be able to regulate such things. Man belongs to the land. The land does not belong to the man.
3. Drugs. Okay, there are drugs here. They have been here forever. They will be here forever. Trying to regulate drugs is a waste of time. Just because we have open borders, will not heighten the drug trade. "It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom."
4. National Security threatened and terrorists kill innocent children. Not once can I think of a outside terrorist attack on U.S. soil that innocent children were killed. Versus Whereas, look at what the U.S. has done to the Middle East, thousands upon thousands innocent people and children have been killed at the hands of the American government.
5. The Bill of Rights is just a paper. It has no dictatorship over the free will of humans.
JoJoju1998

Con

On 9/11, the dead included eight children: five on American Airlines Flight 77 ranging in age from 3 to 11, three on United Airlines Flight 175 ages 2, 3, and 4. The youngest victim was a 2-1/2-year-old child on Flight 175.
Overall, more than 55,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence in Mexico since 2006. That same level of violence will eventually show up in major U.S. cities unless something dramatic is done about illegal immigration.
According to the FBI, there are approximately 1.4 million gang members living in our cities. Illegal immigration has been one of the primary factors that has fueled the growth of these gangs. Thanks to illegal immigration, California"s overstretched health care system is on the verge of collapse. Dozens of California hospitals and emergency rooms have shut down over the past decade because they could not afford to stay open after being endlessly swamped by illegal immigrants who were simply not able to pay for the services that they were receiving. As a result, the remainder of the health care system in the state of California is now beyond overloaded. This had led to brutally long waits, diverted ambulances and even unnecessary patient deaths. At this point, the state of California now ranks dead last out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people. It is my belief that you cannot approach the issue of protecting America from future terrorist attacks as an isolated issue, that it is necessary to consider the broader issue of border security to include terrorism, immigration enforcement, and drug trafficking as a whole. Because the same deficiencies that exist - at least along our borders and ports of entry - that would allow a terrorist to gain entry to the U.S. are the same deficiencies that allow for the entry of millions of illegal aliens and many thousands of pounds of illegal drugs every year. After all, if hundreds of thousands of illiterate, unskilled, uneducated peasants from the interior of various Latin American countries can successfully navigate the holes in our borders and ports of entry to successfully take up residence inside the United States and remain here indefinitely, what makes anyone believe that a more sophisticated, better financed, and dedicated member of a terrorist cell could not do the same thing? If international drug traffickers can successfully smuggle hundreds of thousands of pounds of cocaine, marijuana, heroin, amphetamines, and other illegal drugs into the U.S., why is it not equally likely that a terrorist group could successfully smuggle a few pounds or gallons of biological, chemical, or nuclear material into this country? How many illegal aliens stopped by local police for a traffic violation and released under a local policy which provides sanctuary for illegal aliens could be tomorrowA533;s terrorist? Which student admitted on a temporary visa who overstays that visa, or in fact never shows up for school, will be the next terrorist to kill Americans?
It is my understanding that approximately 500 million people enter the United States each year (or more specifically, there are 500 million entries), and approximately 8 million containers are brought into the U.S. through our various seaports annually. This is indeed a formidable challenge to our Homeland Security authorities, but its size cannot and should not be the sole determining factor in how we protect ourselves from the threat of terrorism. We as a Nation must do what we have to do to protect ourselves - that must be our first priority. If there is a way to protect ourselves that minimizes the impact on the speed with which people and containers are admitted, that would be our preferred option. But we must finally abandon the notion that it is more important to allow people and containers to enter the U.S. quickly and easily than it is to protect ourselves from future terrorist attacks, increased availability of harmful drugs, and the demonstrably harmful effects of illegal immigration.
This country must remember that it is based upon the concept of the rule of law. We are a nation of laws - we must abide by the laws we have adopted to deal with the problems of immigration, drugs, and terrorism. It is not enough to pass laws in Congress or in the state legislatures and then ignore them because we are afraid of offending special interests or because of notions of political correctness. And there is no way a country can fight a war against terrorism when it ignores its borders, refuses to enforce its laws away from the borders, and provides sanctuary or informal immunity to those who have broken our laws by coming here illegally or staying beyond their welcome.
Debate Round No. 2
victoriaronan

Pro

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JoJoju1998

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
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