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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/10/2013 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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BillyTheKids

Pro

First round is for acceptance and topic choosing. Have Fun :)
famer

Con

Topic to argue: The school dress code should be abolished

No semantics or trolling.

Definitions:

Dress code: School uniform

Abolished: Completely removed



Structure of debate:

1st round: Acceptance, rules, topic, positions

2nd round: Opening arguments only

3rd round: Rebuttals only

4th round: Final rebuttals, defence and conclusion

Any failure to follow these rules for this debate automatically results in the loss of conduct point.

I am taking the CON position to the following resolution, therefore negating it.

BOP is shared of course.

Good Luck!
Debate Round No. 1
BillyTheKids

Pro

Dress code is not worth having at schools.

1. A dress code can take away some creativity of the student. With a dress code you can sometimes not be able to wear what you want to wear. When you say "Dress code" I understand this as, "Coat and Tie" or "School uniforms" not, you can wear anything you would like. As long as the student is not wearing a shirt that says. " "F" you teacher" or something like that, I do not see the problem with not having a dress code.

2. After a certain amount of time, the novelty factor of a school uniform, can eventually wear off. Once this happens, the person starts developing a negative attitude towards the uniform or dress code. It soon becomes a burden, rather than an object of pride. This defeats the very purpose of uniforms or dress codes. This can take away the effect of what wearing a dress code is meant to do to the individual.

This is why I dress code should be removed from schools.

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famer

Con

School Dress Code should be abolished


To note for this debate, we are talking about the complete abolishment of the entire school dress code. This more or less implies the idea that schools uniforms should serve to be completely non-existent.


Of course, I am against this given resolution, and without further ado, I will begin with my arguments:


C1: Serves as an identity


Sub-point 1: School recognition


By implementing the already existing school uniform for students to wear, it helps identify children/students from which school they are. It presents them in a way that they can proudly say “I am from _____ school” or “I am from _____ High school/Secondary school/Primary school” etc.


A school with a uniform forms the basis of their public reputation from the uniform that they enforce their students to wear. If a public member sees a student walking to school with high heels and a straw-made hat, their reputation tumbles drastically, regardless of the education system within the school itself.


It also marks part of their identity from their exterior appearance to where they have been educated for a large portion of their pre-adulthood stages of life.


Sub-point 2: Student recognition


This point is slightly different to the actually “school recognition”, but is still important to note. For example, when a group of students are out on an excursion, which option would clearly be better? A school with uniform or a school where students have the freedom of choice with the clothes that they are allowed to wear?


Scenario 1: Bob is in Debate Dot Org High School and is attending the inter-school debating competition. His entire school wears a simple uniform, with a crest on the polo shirt. Unfortunately, on his way to the debating competition venue, he gets lost. He instantly finds a classmate due to the uniform, catches up with him, and gets to the venue on time.


Scenario 2: Mr. I-HATE-UNIFORM is in No Uniform High School and is attending an excursion to learn about wave currents at a beach. Unfortunately for him, he becomes lost and is unable to find out where to go. His entire school does not have a school uniform, and has massive difficulty trying to locate the precise location of his classmate’s whereabouts.


From the two scenarios given, it is clear that school uniforms gives a much clearer way to identify one person from their exterior appearance.


C2: Smarter look


For a student to appear in fashionable clothes that are suitable for odd fashion shows and competitions when attending something that relates to education is nonsensical.


School uniforms are supposed to make the student look smart, educated, and willing to learn. This point has already been covered in the previous contention.


A student who actually follows the school rules of wearing the correlating school uniform shows the following characteristics from the exterior appearance:



  1. 1. They are part of that school

  2. 2. They are disciplined (willing to follow the rules with wearing the uniform)

  3. 3. They look like they are smart (smarter than someone where casual clothes)

  4. 4. They look more formal than someone who is wearing casual clothes to school


C3: No discrimination and/or judgement on clothing


Most teenage students who are in school typically have the all-out hype on the latest fashion related to clothes and other clothing appeals, such as shoes, hats, bracelets, etc. The media strongly manipulates the way teenagers think of what is right and what is wrong, as well as what is apparently “better looking”, “More new” and other ridiculous concepts that should:



  1. 1. Not be part of schooling as it does not relate to the education of students

  2. 2. Not alter the child’s natural way of judgement


If students have free reign over what type of clothing they are permitted to wear when attending school, most students (females in particular) will be subjected to being judged by their peers, based on what they wear. Students who are living within poorer families are unable to maintain the “Up-to-date-fashion” hype.


Through these given contentions, I hope I have proved to the audience that the idea of the abolishment of the school dress code is not the idea of choice.


Through these arguments, I aim to prove that the advantages of school uniforms outweigh the abolishment of the school uniforms.


Looking forward to my opponent’s rebuttals in the next round.

Debate Round No. 2
BillyTheKids

Pro

BillyTheKids forfeited this round.
famer

Con

That was disappointing.

I will make my rebuttals short due to the kind of time I have.

1. A dress code can take away some creativity of the student. With a dress code you can sometimes not be able to wear what you want to wear. When you say "Dress code" I understand this as, "Coat and Tie" or "School uniforms" not, you can wear anything you would like. As long as the student is not wearing a shirt that says. " "F" you teacher" or something like that, I do not see the problem with not having a dress code.

The refutation to this argument has been pointed out through one of my arguments.

If a school does not enforce a rule that ensures students to wear some type of school dress code without consequences if they disobey the rule without any decent reason, students may end up wearning inappropriate clothes when attending school.

As well as that, they will all be up with the fashion hype, and students may end up discrimination each other based on what they wear. A uniform is meant to make all studnets from one school (or one group) feel together. The uniform is meant to unite the students with the same appearance, so that no one is left out.

Secondly, if the school dress code was not enforced, there is nothing stopping the students from wearing clothes that may say "F you teacher" on the front or anything that includes inappropriate slogans.

2. After a certain amount of time, the novelty factor of a school uniform, can eventually wear off. Once this happens, the person starts developing a negative attitude towards the uniform or dress code. It soon becomes a burden, rather than an object of pride. This defeats the very purpose of uniforms or dress codes. This can take away the effect of what wearing a dress code is meant to do to the individual.


If one student takes pride in their own school that they attend, they will most definetely wear the uniform, as a way to show their pride to that school, towards the public.

Additionally, the school dress code is a contributing factor to the school's reputation to the public. If you see students walking into the school wearing inappropriate clothes, and out of uniform, to them, they students don't take any pride in their uniform either.
Debate Round No. 3
BillyTheKids

Pro

BillyTheKids forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by BillyTheKids 4 years ago
BillyTheKids
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sorry about forgetting to put that in.
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