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Cloneorder66
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Frikcha
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PC is better than consoles for gaming.

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Started: 2/11/2014 Category: Games
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Cloneorder66

Pro

I believe that PC's are superior to consoles, I await your response.
Frikcha

Con

Consoles are better than PC's for gaming. Consoles offer a wide variety of games and require no internet connection to play most of them. PC's usually require internet connection to download games even if they are bought from a game store in disc form. The cost of gaming on PC far exceeds that of a console, there is the cost of gaming subscriptions, internet download, and the costs necessary to prepare a PC for efficient gaming. PC's when bought from the store are usually not up to standard to play most games. They will most likely need RAM upgrades and new graphics cards to run games better. PC boasts higher graphics quality but this is usually at the cost of slower game-play. Consoles provide a balance of good graphics and steady game-play with the added bonus of local multi-player. PC's can easily get virus's if not taken care of properly whereas consoles are reliable and can't get virus's like PC's can. Consoles are also much cheaper than PC's and require no added costs to work at their fullest potential.
Debate Round No. 1
Cloneorder66

Pro

See, PC's are actually much cheaper in the long run. It might cost 500-700 dollars for a good rig, but on Steam good quality games can be on sale up to 90% off, like the Summer and Winter sales can blow games out of the water in cheapness. 50 dollar games games for 15 bucks happens almost all the time. We also have modding. Modding can make a bad game good. Skyrim on PC compared to console is PC hands down. We also have Halo and such exclusives as StarCraft 2, World of Warcraft, Total War, League of Legends, Team Fortress 2, etc.. We are also able to buy games form 20 or so years ago. Next Gen consoles coming out???? Forget spending 500 dollars plus controllers and new games. Pop in a new GPU (if you even need a new one) and play the games you already have. Also the quality is SUPERB compared to consoles. Have you even played a game on a good gaming PC? It looks a million times better than console. And have you used a mouse and keyboard? It is much more precise and diverse to play on.
Frikcha

Con

For the max potential of PC games you need a good internet connection and a lot of download. this adds to the cost. also with games like world of warcraft thousands of dollars are spent on subscriptions, in-game purchases and premium type memberships. Also most consoles have virtual consoles or emulators so you can play games from classic consoles. Portable consoles are a whole new ballpark. A good laptop is usually quite big and to take it with you all over the place can be a hassle. Portable consoles such as the 3DS and PsP are small, compact and offer a well rounded gaming experience. Touch screen games are fun to play and the 3DS in particular offers a revolutionary "no glasses" 3D experience. There's also the issue of compatibility in PC's, because PC's require an extensive knowledge to operate whereas consoles are simplistic and need virtually no tweaking and in depth knowledge to operate. The releases of next-gen consoles show how far they have come from the early gaming years and show the industry is constantly moving forwards with their technology. Consoles are also great for family and friends, such as the XBox kinect. Rather then have multiple PC's hooked up with LAN and have your family sitting scratching their heads over how they can press all these keys and how they play the game, you could just set up the kinect and use your body as a controller. It's simple, fast and offers great exercise. most of these PC exclusive games require hours of time, dedication and cost of download when you could just play a fun console game for an hour or two and simply save and shut off when you want to go play fetch with your dog (just an example)
Debate Round No. 2
Cloneorder66

Pro

First off, i'd like to say thank you for your valid points. Secondly Kinect sucked. Flat out tragity. No good games bad functionality. And when the NSA said they used Kinect to spy on consumers. Hot damn that set off a fuse. Also, about PC being complex, i'd like to say, with a LITTLE learning and effort the experience is MUCH more rewarding than a PS Vita that just has crappy games. And most developers are now putting lower quality settings (Riot Games, Valve, Blizzard) That can play on almost any computer. About the internet, most if not everyone I know has Wi-Fi. How else are games like COD and BF4 supposed to be fun? Single player is a JOKE in those games, the developers don't even care about it. Speaking of BF4, 64 players, 1080p, mouse and keyboard support, and amazing textures it's obvious all FPS's are best on PC. What's that? No controller? No problem buy a 360 controller or a PS4, PS3, heck even Xbox One controller, plug it in, and play games with it.
Frikcha

Con

you've actually pointed out the major flaws of PC gaming right there. all the good PC games have bad single player modes and most of the time you will only get solid gameplay when you turn down the graphics settings. consoles offer a balance of the two and have much better single player games. also kinect opened up a whole new way of playing. people were able to mod it to do amazing things and yeah this was all on a PC but you have consoles to thank for that. you also have consoles to thank for controllers because competing with those guys on BF4 with a keyboard can be tough and takes time to learn. also you seem to think wi-fi is a given but it's not. most people can't afford it because it costs a lot to keep, but with a console game you can have fun with up to 16 friends without even going online, you also get to it next to them all rather then waste even more download on skype and teamspeak. and i can't even begin to describe how much you would have to spend on your computer to get the optimal gaming experience. also one thing i left out; PC's can replicate older games with emulators and such but what most people forget is that it's illegal. piracy on computers has gotten to the point where people don't even know that downloading paid games for free is illegal. PC's have a lot of potential but unfortunately that doesn't make up for the amount of negatives.

also i said PsP not PsP vita.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Frikcha 3 years ago
Frikcha
no, consoles boot up faster than PCs. an Xbox 360 will start up in about 10 seconds from switching it on, ready for you to start playing your game. And you PCs can easily get viruses, unless you pay for anti-virus software (the good stuff).
Posted by Cloneorder66 3 years ago
Cloneorder66
1. You only get a virus if you are a dumb dumb. 2. We boot up faster. 3. This isn't part of the debate so any voters don't penalize me for bad grammar. Unleashing the beastttt. 4. Can i lick you? 5. Hail PC.
Posted by Frikcha 3 years ago
Frikcha
i'm sorry, "we"? what do you mean "we"? you aren't a computer and "you" can't do everything better than a console. here are some examples; consoles boot up faster, split screen, pre-owned games that you can buy cheaper, play it's exclusives, nearly no maintenance, no drivers, no .net frameworks, no need for installs, no viruses, no spyware, no product codes, nostalgic gaming experiences (when my friends at school got to plug our gameboys together and trade our pokemon it was the highlight of the day), also consoles had everything originally. then PCs came along and decided they should rip off everything about these consoles. pick your words carefully when you make remarks like that. and it's really irritating when you act so childish.
Posted by Cloneorder66 3 years ago
Cloneorder66
It's because you are silly. You are the silly willy of the year! You silly. Anything console has we have, do better, kick its @$$, and throw it to Texas!
Posted by Frikcha 3 years ago
Frikcha
a lot of your points are very biased and opinionated. you outright say that things suck rather than provide reasons. also when you asked me where i got bad single player you TOLD me that developers no longer care about single player on all the good PC gamed and you said the single player was $h!t. You say all consoles have are crappy RTS's and F2P's but there are much more. Kingdom hearts, the last of us, final fantasy, rogue galaxy, skyrim, tf2, the battlefield games, the call of duty games, star wars bounty hunter, portal, and many more are all available on consoles. and let's not forget the classics like pokemon, mario, and all the good ol nintendo games. and all of these multiplayer games you point out as being the best require so much time and dedication and can be very addictive. WoW is just ridiculous. you have to pay around $200 a year just to be able to play and the amount of lives ruined by online gaming addiction is very saddenning to think about. also the added benefit of console games is sharing. you may have a friend who you can lend or trade games with instead of having to buy a game each. also alot of people don't have credit cards to pay for games over the internet.

also please don't call me "silly" and tell other people to vote for you.
Posted by Cloneorder66 3 years ago
Cloneorder66
Rok, i love you BTW. Your points are very helpful. Vote for me please.
Posted by Cloneorder66 3 years ago
Cloneorder66
Ok, regarding single player.. What the heck? Bad single player? Where did you get that one from? Fallout, Skyrim, Knights of the Old Republic, Papers please, GMOD, Postal. I could go on forever. And old games downloading illegally? No, you pay for them on Steam super cheap. Steam is legit, as any PC gamer has it. Also, you can build a good rig for about 400. And i've your going to play games, you will have to spend money, so why not on a PC? And Steam does not use emulators you silly. Besides i play my BF4 on keyboard as it's easier and more precise. Also, all consoles have is crappy RTS and F2P. No GMOD, TF2, WOW, SC2, LoL, Dota and such forth. And wanna talk about Kinect? It SUCKED. And PC's have Oculus Rift. So yeah, PC's are WAY better than consoles. #PC Elitists
Posted by Skrone 3 years ago
Skrone
LOL. I laughed so hard when I read the part where con said you pointed out the flaws right there, partially on the horrible single player gameplay front. It was hilarious because the games he cited were played on console almost solely for the purpose of multiplayer. I am abstaining from voting because of personal bias.
Posted by Rok 3 years ago
Rok
Con has the burden of disproving Pro's claim of "PC is superior to console". Con says:

1) Cost of PC is much more.
Higher cost only proves that PC is superior. You pay for quality, do you not?

2) PC's can get a virus.
PC's that are not properly protected are at risk of viruses. Basic knowledge to buy an anti-virus program resolves this. We must also remember consoles are susceptible to software damages as well and generally can not be repaired simply by the owner.

3) PC requires greater knowledge.
This only proves Pro that PC is superior. Equipment requiring more knowledge to operate generally means higher quality. For example, look at a car and a bike. One can learn to ride a bike in one day, but a car takes much more time. One must learn many more rules before being able to properly operate the vehicle, but in the end, do they not get to their destination far more quickly?
Posted by Rok 3 years ago
Rok
Superior definition: Higher in quality or status/rank.

In this case it would be quality.

The Pro needs only to prove that PC's are superior gaming systems. Pro's points:

1) Modding can make a bad game good.
Modding on PC is much simpler than going through the process to get mods on consoles, and regardless one would still need to get the mods through a PC.

2) Game exclusive as well as classic games.
MMORPG's are primarily PC exclusive. Many other games are PC exclusive as well and those games not made for PC can easily be played using an emulator. Emulators make most games available for PC that one could not play on a single gaming console.

3) I quote Pro on: "Pop in a new GPU (if you even need a new one) and play the games you already have. Also the quality is SUPERB compared to consoles."
PC components are easily replaced or able to upgrade and boost quality of games as compared to console where you await the next gen. console and hope for better quality of gameplay and graphics. PC can be constantly updated.

4) Most developers are allowing lower quality settings.
Allowing lower quality for gameplay optimizes speed over quality. This allows a more broad range of gamers to enjoy games.

5) Console controllers connect to PC.
This proves that PC is compatible with consoles. It's compatibility proves it's wide range of operation. One may connect a controller to a gaming PC and play games that way, but one may not connect a mouse and keyboard to a console and play games, without necessary tweaking.
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