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PS3 is better than Xbox 360

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 7/29/2008 Category: Technology
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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CHS

Pro

1. system features
Now the looks come into affect first. The ps3 doesn't look like a grill and whoever thinks it does is a moron.

Even critics agree that the ps3 is sexy. I think they say that because the 360 fan boys are jealous because their 360 looks like a old dell PC.

Now also ps3 can be customized like the 360.
Except it's now just plastic, it's actually a paint job so it's for real.

Now let's talk about the controllers. Before we go I have to admit, I love the 360 controller. Now the 360 fan boys say that the ps3 copied the home button. Actually the psp and the psx had a home button long before the 360 did. Also the ps3 controller didn't copy motion control from the wii.(oh by the, the 360 controller has no motion control or Siaxis) motion control has been in arcades for years. Also the ps3 was announced before the Wii so it stole nothing. By the way the ps1 had a motion control controller in 1999. also the ps3 controller has rumble just like the 360 controller, it's called Dualshock 3 and it still has Siaxis. Also the 360 controllers need battery packs. And some are even wired. The elite controller needs aa batteries. Ps3 has Bluetooth controller and headsets. Also the ps3 can support up to 7 controllers because of Bluetooth, but the 360 can only support up to 4.next 360 fan boys say who needs blu ray? Well every major company has announced that blu ray is better yet 360 supports HD DVD. And they make it bought for $200.the ps3 has a blu ray player built in and blu ray discs have a space of 50gb but the 360 supports disc that actually only support 8gb. Also blu ray discs run faster than the ones that 360 supports which makes your game is a lot more intense and fun. 360 uses old DVD drives which date back to 1997. hell the ps1 was out then. Also the blu ray disc has expanded to 400gb while xbox 360 supports 8gb. That's like 65 times better games you'll get on the ps3. more longer, detailed, better graphics, better online, and pretty much everything that you want.

2. features
XBM:
Can store music
Can store videos, movies
Store photos, images, wallpapers
Game demos, full games,
Custom ps3 themes and wallpapers
Ps online store
Messaging
Video, voice chat
Backwards compatibility
Remote play
An internet browser

Even the psp and wii have a web browser.

Now we will look at the reliability.

Due to constant
Overheating
Error messages
Crashing and scratched discs
Public humiliation at stores and video game events. ( they found 360's on display at stores that have the red right of death)
The 360 has a failure rate of 33%. That's 1 out of every 3 360 ‘s breaking! The ps3 has a failure rate of .02%. that's about 4 million 360's that are broken.

Now we talk about prices. Read carefully!
Ps3(80gb)
Built in blu ray drive
HDMI port
Built in Ethernet port and wifi
A controller with a charger
Memory and flash slots
Region- free games
Backward compatibility
Free online service and home
$499

Xbox 360 elite
Headset, big, old, cheap, and wired.
Old dvd drive
Third rate HDMI port which is not true 1080p gaming
Limited and region restricted games.
$450 doesn't include wifi which is $100 bucks if you want xbox live. So that makes it $550 dollars plus $20 bucks for a charger. That's $570 plus HD DVD $200. total $770 and its hd not blu ray which is better. Also you have to pay $60 bucks a year for online.
So overall $500 bucks vs $770 or 570% if you don't want HD DVD.

3. graphics
360's cpu has 3 cores while the ps3 has 8 cores. Which is twice as powerful. Now lets compare the gpu
360 ps3
Overall 1 tflop 1.8 tflop
Gpu speed 500mhz 550mhz
Polygons 1 billion 1.2 billion
Max resoulution 1080i x 1 channel 1080p x 2 channels

360 fans say that ps3 can't handle gears of war. Yet the ps3 can handle mgs4. I don't see a version of mgs4 coming for the 360. the xbox 360 gpu which is 48 billion shader ops per second while the ps3 has 100 billion shader ops per second.

Every gaming website has said that uncharted for ps3 is the best looking game on any console.

The 360 maxed out with mass effect.

Unfortunately the engine can't keep up and slowdown is rampant. –IGN
That, glitches and other graphical issues such as pop in textures, tearing, frame drops, long loading times, etc.

Also 360 could barley handle gta4. and rockstar was pissed.

Now the big one.
3. games

360 fan boys say the ps3 doesn't have any good games. Honestly, what are some good games besides halo 3 and gears of war. There aren't any and Microsoft is running really low on games and most critics say that they have reach the limit.

Sony hasn't even touch its catalog of games.
Good games that are out now.

Motorstorm
Heavenly sword
Ridge racer 7
Ratchet and clank
Resistance
Uncharted
Unreal tournament 3
Warhawk
Haze
Mgs4

Upcoming games
Driver
Eight days
The agency
Mag
Getaway
God of war 3
Gran turismo 5
Infamous
Killzone 2
Jak and daxter 4
La noire
Socom confrontation
Littlebigplanet
Syphon filter for ps3
Motorstorm 2
Tekken 6
Resistance 2
Uncharted 2
And more

4. psn vs live

People say that playstation online sucks?

Psn has
Video/voice chat
Messaging
User profile and friends list
Playstation online store
Demo and full game downloads
Classic and arcade downloads
Video downloads
Game add ons and downloadable content
Ps3 theme downloads

Plus psn has dedicated online servers. Which have been proven to have better quality then live. All for free. I mean come on how many times have live gone down already. Why is live so laggy and interruptive. Live is not worth 60 bucks a year. Home is almost here and live wont be able to touch it.

5. sales
The 360 has been in the market twice as long as the ps3 has and its expected to have double the sales. But it doesn't!
Ps3's sales are 70% of the 360's which is more than half. So if the ps3 would of come out at the same time as the 360, the ps3 would have sold more then the 360. its not about sales #s but its rates. And the ps3 are selling better than the 360. 4 to1for 3 months straight. Selling over a million systems a year worldwide!
So does yourself a favor and get a ps3.
Chaos_Evolved

Con

Wow, you must be new to this kind of stuff.

"The ps3 doesn't look like a grill and whoever thinks it does is a moron."

Subjective, just as if you would say the 360 looks like crap, oh wait...

"360 looks like a old dell PC."

Huh, spoke too fast.

"Even critics agree that the ps3 is sexy."

Appeal to authority much? Anyways, looks of the machine is irrelevant when judging a GAMING PLATFORM. It's for, at least primarily: playing GAMES.

"Now also ps3 can be customized like the 360. "

Exactly, PS3 borrowing from its rival, at least you admit it.

"Now let's talk about the controllers."
You mean the ones that Sony screwed you over on at the time of the machine's release? No rumble or anything?

"Also the ps3 was announced before the Wii so it stole nothing."
Ha really? Even if this was true, the motion control in the PS3 controller wasn't.

Batteries in the 360 controller? So? Rechargeable batteries exist, even play and charge kits, and they aren't expensive. "Some are even wired" you say? So? you present a problem then present the solution to the problem and try to make it look like a new problem.

Blu-ray runs faster? Well, PS3 games have longer load times, so its funny you say that. In NHL 2008, scroll through the teams, you'll find the machine can't even keep up with bringing the team logos at the same time as the names, 360, despite DVD has no problem.

You can support 7 controllers, I can do 4, well end of the world isn't it? When are you gonna have 7 people over? I have Xbox Live, which (Try to refute this) lags far less than your online game mode.

Public humiliations? Have you ------------->SEEN<------------- Sony's press conference at E3 2006? Yeah, don't talk about humiliation. OH! And remember your precious motion controller? What transpired when Phil tried warhawk, live demonstration with that motion controller? He couldn't steer the plane for his life.

Graphics? Okay, this debate is not worth having, you know why? At potential, you might one, currently, you don't. There is hardly a difference between the two systems in graphics to this date, and you can look on gametrailers to see comparisons. In GTA 4 , the PS3 has a more buildings that pop-up than the ps3.

Read this, and understand. Ps3 came out after 360, third party people, like EA sports, when they make an NBA game, it looks better on 360 as of now. Why? The people who make the team are new to PS3 technology, they are familiar with 360's and can therefore crank more power out of it.

HA, and you talk about gta4, I didn't even read that part until now.

And you DARE say, you DARE say that you have better games? You're serious, I'm not even gonna subject that claim to humiliation. That is just ridiculous. First, I know, taste in games are subjective, but if you actually went to check game rankings on these games, you'll find 360 games get better reviews overall, although I do not think that matters in this debate.

You, if you're going to reply to anything, reply to this. Sony has lost many exclusive games, like Assassin's creed, GTA 4, now even final fantasy. Why? Cause the people who make the games know they will be broke considering how poorly PS3 sales are going, so do not even talk to me about which company treats their customers better.

Finally, do you know about how Sony screwed over their fans in E3 2007? They announced a price drop, but never said that it was temporary, this was all over the blogs at the time, of people saving up and getting ready to buy one now that they can afford it, they get to the store ONE week after, and it's back to the original price. The price drop was only for a specific version of the PS3, which was in limited quantity, hence pulling a political tactic of bait and switch.

To sum up, I dare you to reply to this entire post.

You just seem so ignorant and lost in what you're saying, and then go on to be a hypocrite by talking about fanboys of the 360. You don't even know what you're talking about and you throw accusations of being a fanboy and at the same time act like one.
Debate Round No. 1
CHS

Pro

PS3:
Positives:

-Better hardware. It's a much more powerful machine.
-Better processing power
-Bluray disks can hold expansively more data than 360 HDdvd disks
-PS3 has 7 core processers, as oppossed to the Xbox360's 3 processers.
-Uses Cell proccessing.
-Standard HD
Free online play
-Able to install Linux

since my opponent didnt really make much of an argument why the 360 is a better CONSOLE. Just meerely stated him opinion and not the facts. And went on and on about some game convention that makes no difference in how the consoles perform I will just state the positives of having a ps3 as opposed to a 360
Chaos_Evolved

Con

I am now convinced that my opponent didn't even read my argument, or that he can't read.

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since my opponent didnt really make much of an argument why the 360 is a better CONSOLE
"

Really? I addressed almost all your claims about how PS3 is better, refuting every single one (notice how you don't try to win those points back), and by doing this, showed how the 360 is superior.

But since you have a short attention span, or don't like hearing the other side like those creationists, I'll make a list, just for you.

Positives:
Better online

Games perform better, as in faster loading, less pop-ups in GTA4 (source: Gametrailers comparisons) this makes your PS3 hardware irrelevant doesn't it.

More expansive and better rated software source: metacritics.

And that`s all I, it`s for gaming, and the functions linking it to gameplay are superior to the PS3.

Now, your list. And I promise that everything you wrote in your second list has already been addressed.

-Better hardware. It's a much more powerful machine.
-Better processing power
-Bluray disks can hold expansively more data than 360 HDdvd disks
-PS3 has 7 core processers, as oppossed to the Xbox360's 3 processers.
-Uses Cell proccessing.
-Standard HD
Free online play
-Able to install Linux

Except for the blu-ray and linux and online, all your points are hardware, which, as pointed out to you multiple times now, has not so far made a difference to anybody, and despite MORE PROCESSING POWER GAARR, the PS3 loads games longer, can't maintain pictures of rosters in NHL 08 (just one example), has more pop-ups in GTA 4, and those are the only 2 ones I've seen myself in person, but there are vids, as stated again, on the internet that will prove that to you.

Now, I do not mind spending 60 bucks a year for quality online services. Do not try to say the PS3 network is better, it lags far more, this cannot be disputed.

Linux? What? Read up?

And that`s all I, it`s for --->gaming<---, and the functions linking it to gameplay are superior to the PS3.

Again, if you want to talk about all the PC-like functions, I heard the PS3 can be used for hacking power, that's fine.

But tell me this, if you have a choice between 2 cars, one that roles well, and one that doesn't role at all but has a great stereo and some extra functions, which would you pick? The role of a car is to help you get around, the role of a gaming machine is for games.

"Just meerely stated him opinion, not the facts. "

This alone should disqualify you, I can cite you numerous facts I wrote in the first argument.

"And went on and on about some game convention that makes no difference in how the consoles perform I will just state the positives of having a ps3 as opposed to a 360"

Well if you think the fact that the maker of your car or your gaming machine will screw you over doesn't matter to you, there's something wrong with your logic. The maker supports the machine, with software updates, etc. The maker directly makes your console inferior by deciding that this generation doesn't need rumble, then realizes everyone enjoys it, so adds it to their controller way after the console's release, so you have to spend an again, more money on a controller you should have already gotten.

So to summarize, my opponent should stop debating.
Debate Round No. 2
CHS

Pro

CHS forfeited this round.
Chaos_Evolved

Con

Chaos_Evolved forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by scrappykoala 8 years ago
scrappykoala
Wow that is too much info to read.

I wouldnt even start ... in fact I didnt even start.

I have both systems and for now I like xbox because it is easier to navigate is more intueitive and the download times are way beter.

Take metal gear solid ... wow you sit around forever circle jirking while waiting for something to load or someone to green up.

Ehhh screw this debate Im going to go play Battlefield on my xbox360 with the 62 inch hi def with the game chair .. oh yeah has new maps hahha ... ps3 ... havnt even ripped the plastic off some of the games i bought for that thing

However xbox is more fragile then your mom at a weight loss seminar.
Posted by Rezzealaux 8 years ago
Rezzealaux
PS3 has more processing power and loads slower????

EPIC FAIL.
Posted by Im_always_right 8 years ago
Im_always_right
ummm everyone has their own idea of 'better', but since this would be sooo easy to win i will nnot take it up.

Also, why do the same debate, over and over again?? That would get old very fast.
Posted by slayer54321 8 years ago
slayer54321
This crap again?

Didn't we settle this already?
Posted by Rezzealaux 8 years ago
Rezzealaux
Not better in terms for their respective companies :o
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