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Pascals Wager is a valid argument for believing in God

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Started: 8/18/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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DavidFlo

Pro

Pascal's Wager is right and we should believe in God.
superbowl9

Con

Pascal's wager is not a valid argument for god.

Pachal's wager, for those who don't know, is basically a decision matrix of sorts. Basically, the wager states that the only possible outcomes of life are:
1. God exists
2. God does not exist

And your choices are:
1. To believe in god
2. To not believe in god

So already Pascal's wager is a false dichotomy[1], as there are more possibilities to the afterlife than just going to hell for disbelief in god or going to heaven for belief in god. What if there is a god, but he's a goody-goody god and lets everyone into heaven, or what if the opposite is true and he sends everyone to hell? There's more possibilities than just the two Pascal's wager names.

Secondly, Pascal's wager is null if god does not exist, which we can assume because there's no evidence for him. The possibilities of either outcome are not equal, it's more a 99.9 percent chance there is no god and a .01 percent chance there is a god. Until someone provides valid evidence for god, I won't even consider Pascal's wager as an argument.

Third, Pascal's wager is flawed because there are so many different religions out there. There are around 20 major religions and over 34,000 different Christian religions alone[2]. So, if we choose to worship a god, which god should we worship? If we choose the wrong one, we'll go to hell anyways, so that leaves us with almost no chance of getting to heaven anyways.

Fourth, many if not most religions say that you must truly believe in this god and worship him if you want to go to heaven. Thus it is useless to try to pretend you believe in god just to win pascal's wager, as he would simply see through you considering he is omnipotent and omniscient. Any atheists could not accept Pascal's wager.

From these four arguments I conclude that Pascal's wager is not a valid reason to believe in god. I hand it over to my opponent.

For more info on Pascal's wager, you can go here[3].

Sources:
1. http://mind.ucsd.edu...
2. http://www.religioustolerance.org...
3. http://en.wikipedia.org...'s_Wager
Debate Round No. 1
DavidFlo

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Debate Round No. 2
DavidFlo

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by superbowl9 2 years ago
superbowl9
Biggest win margin ever?
Posted by KhalifV 2 years ago
KhalifV
105-0?
chillout
Posted by superbowl9 2 years ago
superbowl9
It's almost at 100 0.o
Posted by KhalifV 2 years ago
KhalifV
91-0 is pretty bad..
Posted by superbowl9 2 years ago
superbowl9
Holy jumping jackals, I've never won a debate by so much.
Posted by FMAlchemist 2 years ago
FMAlchemist
Here we go again.Another Pascal's Wager debate.
Posted by Aerogant 2 years ago
Aerogant
Who needs a religion and a way to scare people into it, when you have the Universe full of love and life?
Posted by superbowl9 2 years ago
superbowl9
You sniped one of his too. Also I really needed to take down Paschal's wager once and for all. It's a disgusting tactic.
Posted by KhalifV 2 years ago
KhalifV
Snipers`
Posted by superbowl9 2 years ago
superbowl9
It was tough to crank that out in 15 minutes. Whew.
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