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Passive homophobia is beneficial to heterosexuals

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Started: 11/2/2015 Category: Education
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BlackHomophobicAtheists

Pro

Round 1
Pro states claims
Con challenges pro's claims

Round 2
Pro disputes con's challenge from round 1
Con defends his or her challenge from round 1

Round 3
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Rules
No new claims in rounds 2 and 3.

Argument

Homophobia is an evolutionary disease avoidance behavior." Therefore, passive homophobia is good for heterosexuals"

Homophobia is needed To prevent heterosexuals from turning gay. "This is beneficial because homosexuals have much higher rates of The most deadliest STDs. Avoiding becoming gay keeps heterosexuals away from a lifestyle that has higher rates of Deadliest stds And other health issues.

Here's proof that Heterosexuals could be made gay. The following study shows Experimentation, Gay pornography, "Childhood gender nonconformity and bad experiences with the opposite sex could make a person turn gay. "Homophobia will prevent these things from occuring

Neither Genes nor Choice:
Same-Sex Attraction Is Mostly a Unique Reaction to Environmental Factors
[Journal of Human Sexuality 3:81-114 (2011)]
by Neil E. Whitehead8

" Some gay friendly heterosexuals are befriending some gays but have no clue that many gays COMMONLY develop crushes on their heterosexual same sex friends.

Google this
'5 types of straight crushes' by gay teen expert Ellen Friedrich

Here's a quote from the gay teen expert 'Ellen Friedrich'
"It is really common for gay teens to develop crushes on close straight friends"

Meanwhile, many gays are creating blogs such as 'how to seduce a straight guy in 8 easy steps'. Lesbians have people called 'recruiters' who go around turning heterosexual women gay. Gays are all over the internet on blogs and forums giving each other advise on how to sexually seduce their clueless, gay friendly heterosexual friends.

Here's proof that homophobia is an evolutionary disease avoidance behavior

Homophobia = disgust
Disgust = disease avoidance behavior
Homophobia =disease avoidance behavior.

Homophobia rooted in disgust, not fear. (Olatunji et AL 2001)""

Defending Disgust: Why Disgust Is Morally Beneficial (Jason A Clark)"
http://emotionresearcher.com...

Disgust as an adaptive system for disease avoidance behaviour (Valerie Curtis et al 2011)"
Published 3 January 2011 doi:10.1098/rstb.2010.0117 Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B 12 February 2011 vol. 366no. 1563 389-401

Disgust: the disease-avoidance emotion (Graham C. L. Davey 2011)"
Published 31 October 2011 doi: 10.1098/rstb.2011.0039 Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B 12 December 2011 vol. 366 no. 1583 3453-3465

Homophobia is rooted in unwanted sexual advances (Pirlott, Angela et al 2011)

Gay and bisexual women have higher rates of bacterial vaginosis

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Lesbians are more likely to be depressed because semen is good for WOMENS' health and helps fight depression.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

Gay women have higher rates of mental health issues including depression

https://www.lifesitenews.com...

Gay women are more likely to be overweight

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Gay women are more likely to develop breast cancer

Study shows women who get pregnant in their twenties decrease the risk of breast cancer." Gay women are less likely to get pregnant in their twenties and even less likely to get pregnant at all compared to heteroexual women."

http://www.breastcancer.org...

Gay men triggered the hiv epidemic
http://youtu.be...

Gay men" brought back syphilis and triggered the syphillis" epidemic" after it was nearly eliminated
http://m.huffpost.com...

Half of all gay men in the largest city in South Africa are infected with HIV

http://mg.co.za...

Hiv is decreasing among heterosexuals but increasing alarmingly among gays

http://thewestsidestory.net...

In 2010, gays made up 72% of all new HIV infections

In 2013, gays made up 81% of all new HIV infections

http://www.cdc.gov...

In 2012, gays made up 84% of syphilis cases.

In 2013, gays made up 91% of syphilis cases

http://www.m.webmd.com...

Study: Biology Leaves gay men highly vulnerable to HIV
According to Unaids," Hiv is more common among gay men in all areas of the world including Africa"

http://health.usnews.com...

Shigella outbreak among gay and bisexual men

http://www.cdc.gov...

New drug resistant gonorrhea striking gay men
http://dailyxtra.com...

New Deadly meningitis striking gay men
http://americablog.com...

Hepatitis C rising among gay men
http://www.natap.org...

New flesh eating bacterial" strain striking gay men
http://www.nytimes.com...

A rare disease, (Lymphograunuloma venereum)" striking gay men
http://psychcentral.com...

A rare parasitic disease striking gay men
http://www.sciencedaily.com...

Sexually active Gay teens at a high risk of hpv. In other words, when gay teens act on their homosexual behavior," it's not good for them.
> > > > http://america.aljazeera.com...

High rates of hpv among gay men
http://mobile.aidsmap.com...

Anal cancer rising among gay men
http://www.m.webmd.com...

Study shows most women who are infected with hiv contracted it from a bisexual man
http://www.hivplusmag.com...

The question is, who triggered the HIV epidemic? GAYS

A timeline of Aids - aids.org
https://www.aids.gov......

QUOTES

1981

"five young, previously healthy, gay men in Los Angeles. All the men have other unusual infections as well, indicating that their immune systems are not working; two have already died by the time the report is published. This edition of the MMWR marks the first official reporting of what will become known as the AIDS epidemic"

"In addition to reports of cases of PCP and other opportunistic infections among gay men, CDC also receives reports of a cluster of cases of a rare, and unusually aggressive, cancer, Kaposi"s Sarcoma, among a group of gay men in New York and California"

"Gay mens health Crisis Exit Disclaimer, the first community-based AIDS service provider in the U.S., is founded in New York City"

Search on youtube
"NBC'S earliest reports on aids 1982"
Quote
"The lifestyle of homosexual men have triggered an epidemic of a rare disease

Homophobes trying to shut down gay bath houses, telling gays to stop having gay sex and the beginning HIV epidemic

YouTube search
"How we got gay" documentary

Here's a quote from the study. If you copy and paste this quote in google it, you should be able to find the CDC report

"The researchers noted that gay men account for nearly 70 percent of all new HIV/AIDS diagnoses among adolescents and young adults in the United States. A recent study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also found that the majority of new HIV infections occur within committed relationships"

http://health.usnews.com......

"But the problem is, STD's happen within heterosexual couples as well. Heterosexuals are just as capable of getting a STD"

Hiv is decreasing among heterosexuals but increasing alar
Attractedtopans

Con

First of all very few, if any, diseases are restricted to the non-heterosexual community, and it is not as if all man and woman couples partners are both straight. So those diseases homophobia is 'protecting straight people from, aren't really limited to homosexuals. Guess who else was affected by the HIV crisis? Sex workers, Indians, children and infants, Asians, pregnant women, African Americans, and Transgender people. Most of whom you failed to mention in your statement, but came up in all of my research. This is either purposeful, or your research is sub-par.

Homophobia=dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people
Disgust= a feeling of revulsion or profound disapproval aroused by something unpleasant or offensive
Homophobia is based on prejudice and (in my opinion a petty) dislike of homosexuals. Disgust is not disease avoiding behavior it is disapproval. As seen by the definitions above Homophobia is based on dislike, not 'disease avoidance behavior' as you have so eloquently put it.
For example, a gay man (with a disease limited to mostly non-heterosexuals) can have sex with a bisexual man, who may have sex with a straight woman, who, at a pub has a one night stand (because if its more than that, previous sex partners might come up) with a straight man. Then the straight man gets the disease, and homophobia would not have helped him at all. Of course for that to happen, a few people would have to not get STD tests semi-regularly.
Also, being homosexual isn't a choice, and many straight people will, at one point experiment with their sexuality, possibly even if they are homophobic.
On the subject of childhood experiences, maybe a boy who has been raped by a woman would notice his sexuality after his assault, although he has just as much chance of being straight. I am personally a pansexual and I was sexually assaulted by a man in my childhood, yet I am not a unattracted to the gender of my assailant. Nor are many of the people who have been sexually assaulted.

I look forward to your response
-Blake
Debate Round No. 1
BlackHomophobicAtheists

Pro

"First of all very few, if any, diseases are restricted to the non-heterosexual community, and it is not as if all man and woman couples partners are both straight. So those diseases homophobia is 'protecting straight people from, aren't really limited to homosexuals"

This is a straw man fallacy.

I never claimed that heterosexuals don't contract diseases. My point is, Homosexual behavior is a HIGH HEALTH RISK and so participating in Homosexual behavior greatly increases the risk of contracting deadly stds.

"Guess who else was affected by the HIV crisis? Sex workers, Indians, children and infants, Asians, pregnant women, African Americans, and Transgender people"

1. This is a Tu QuoQue fallacy. Your claim does not change the fact that homosexual behavior is a high health risk behavior.

2. Many Transgender people are gay. Just because a gay man dresses like a woman doesn't make him a woman.

Here is proof in addition to the links in round one that Homosexual behavior is in fact a high health risk behavior.

"The study authors estimate that if receptive anal intercourse were only as risky as vaginal intercourse, HIV cases would fall by 80 percent to 98 percent among gay and bisexual men over five years"

http://consumer.healthday.com...

"The rate of primary and secondary syphilis among MSM is more than 46 times that of other men and more than 71 times that of women, the analysis says. The range was 91-173 cases per 100,000 MSM vs. 2 per 100,000 other men and 1 per 100,000 women"

"While CDC data have shown for several years that gay and bisexual men make up the majority of new HIV and new syphilis infections, CDC estimated the rates of these diseases for the first time based on new estimates of the size of the U.S. population of MSM"

https://www.lifesitenews.com...

"Homophobia=dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people
Disgust= a feeling of revulsion or profound disapproval aroused by something unpleasant or offensive
Homophobia is based on prejudice and (in my opinion a petty) dislike of homosexuals. Disgust is not disease avoiding behavior it is disapproval. As seen by the definitions above Homophobia is based on dislike, not 'disease avoidance behavior' as you have so eloquently put it"

Here's proof that homophobia is in fact a disease avoidance behavior.

Homophobia = disgust
Disgust = disease avoidance behavior
Homophobia disease avoidance

Studies show homophobia is rooted in DISGUST, not fear (olantunji 2001)

http://mentalhealth.about.com...

Homosexual activity elicits disgust

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Homosexuals induce disgust
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com...;

Studies show disgust is an evolutionary disease avoidance behavior."
http://m.rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org...

Homophobia rooted in unwanted sexual advances

http://instinctmagazine.com...

Disgust as embodied moral judgment"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

High Disgust sensitivity levels indicates disapproval of gays. In other words, people with a stronger evolutionary" disease avoidance behavior are more likely to disapprove of gays

http://www.pubfacts.com...;

Defending Disgust: Why Disgust Is Morally Beneficial (Jason A Clark)"
http://emotionresearcher.com......;

Disgust as an adaptive system for disease avoidance behaviour (Valerie Curtis et al 2011)"Published 3 January 2011 doi:10.1098/rstb.2010.0117"Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B"12 February 2011"vol. 366no. 1563"389-401

Disgust: the disease-avoidance emotion (Graham C. L. Davey 2011)"
Published 31 October 2011 doi: 10.1098/rstb.2011.0039 Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B 12 December 2011 vol. 366 no. 1583 3453-3465

Homophobia is rooted in unwanted sexual advances (Pirlott, Angela et al 2011)"

"For example, a gay man (with a disease limited to mostly non-heterosexuals) can have sex with a bisexual man, who may have sex with a straight woman"

A homophobia woman is less likely to have Sex with a bisexual man because of homophobia in which decreases stds risks

Study shows most women who are infected with hiv contracted it from a bisexual man
http://www.hivplusmag.com...
Attractedtopans

Con

Attractedtopans forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
BlackHomophobicAtheists

Pro

In conclusion, I proved without a shadow of a doubt that passive homophobia is good for humans
Attractedtopans

Con

Attractedtopans forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by AWSM0055 1 year ago
AWSM0055
Never mind, I read your argument wrong
Posted by AWSM0055 1 year ago
AWSM0055
It's not a disease, it's a form of bigotry.

And no, you cannot turn gay unless you were already gay. Nuff said.
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