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shlh1514
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Losing
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KevinL75
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Winning
42 Points

Patriots running up the score

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Started: 12/17/2007 Category: Sports
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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shlh1514

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I think that the Patriots aren't making the teams they play look bad, but trying to show that they are the best team in the NFL and that running up the score will show other teams and people that they need respect.
KevinL75

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Your argument is predicated on the idea that the Pats don't already have respect - I haven't seen anything to suggest that anyone is doubting the dominance of the team this year. The Patriots' perfect record commands respect alone, and running up the score on games would likely engender resentment among commentators and fans.
Debate Round No. 1
shlh1514

Pro

But when people saw the Patriots running up the score, they thought that they were being unclassy, but they just want to win and they don't care how much they win by. The Patriots running up the score is saying that the spygate scandal was nonsense and they don't need to cheat to win. The game after Week 1 vs. the Chargers was a way to show that they are the best and that they could silence the media about the spygate scandal. If you go to this website http://sports.espn.go.com... you will find that the Patriots aren't trying to embarrass their opponents, but tring to use the spygate scandal as a motivation.
KevinL75

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To counter the spygate scandal, all the Patriots had to do was win games without stealing signs. It doesn't matter how much they win by - just winning without video-taping the other team's defensive signals is counter enough to the idea that the Pats only won their first game by stealing the Jets' signs.

That being said, running up the score is not necessary to dispel the spygate scandal (which happened 14 wins ago - I don't think there's any doubt now.) Since it's not necessary to counter the scandal any longer, the Patriots' running up the score will only be taken as unsportsmanlike, and not received well by fans or commentators.

Given all of those things, I think it's safe to conclude that if faced with the option, the Patriots shouldn't knowingly try to run up the score to demonstrate their superiority.
Debate Round No. 2
shlh1514

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But if the Patriots don't want to be talked about on the media, running up the score is their only option. Bill Belichick in the the article in the second round shows that their team shows no mercy to anyone! Meaning that they will run up the score to 75 points, if necessary to win the game. Meaning that running up the score is unsportsmanlike conduct. Unsportsmanlike Conduct means unsportsmanlike - violating accepted standards or rules; "a dirty fighter"; "used foul means to gain power"; "a nasty unsporting serve"; "fined for unsportsmanlike behavior" but nothing says about running the score or a more simpler definition "not fair or sportsmanlike". So running up the score is like a opinion that means different things to different people.
KevinL75

Con

You said: "Meaning that they will run up the score to 75 points, if necessary to win the game."

If scoring 75 points is necessary to win the game, it's not running up the score. If you think running up the score just means scoring a lot of points, then you're not using the term correctly.

Running up the score means something like instead of calling plays designed to run out the clock when you're up by 3 touchdowns with 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter, you go for that extra touchdown.

It's generally considered to be unsportsmanlike and arrogant, and I don't believe it's in the Patriots' best interest to do it. I have no idea why you think the media will talk negatively about the Patriots if they DON'T run up the score, as you haven't said anything to lend credence to that idea.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by kels1123 6 years ago
kels1123
sorry meant to say they have come close to being beaten.
Posted by kels1123 6 years ago
kels1123
wheelhouse ... Come on, they can easily be beat ... they are still undefeated. They have come close to be beat , ummm but they havent. The Colts can beat them , thats hilarious as the Colts lost to them.
Posted by kels1123 6 years ago
kels1123
wingnut , hate to burst that bubble youre in , but its not just the Ma college kids that love the Pats and respect them ..It would actually be the majority of New England... I am not a MA college kid and I love the Pats. I commend them for playing their hearts out ... stop being babies
Posted by Ragnar_Rahl 6 years ago
Ragnar_Rahl
If they "nearly did," that means they didn't.

If you think the patriots are easy to beat... reality is disgusted with your assessment :D
Posted by wheelhouse3 6 years ago
wheelhouse3
the patriots can easily and have come fairly close to be beaten. the colts for example can easily beat them and nearly did, even without some of their star players.
Posted by RepublicanView333 6 years ago
RepublicanView333
I think he's the only one in the league that would...really
Posted by RepublicanView333 6 years ago
RepublicanView333
ya but he was on my fantasy team so it was a win for the Eagles and a lose for...me. But I value a Philly win over a fantasy win(even thou its fantasy playoffs
Posted by greenriver8 6 years ago
greenriver8
That's some smart thinking. Do you know anyone else who'd do that? That's pretty smart.
Posted by RepublicanView333 6 years ago
RepublicanView333
Did anyone see the last 3 minutes of the Eagles Dallas Game when Brian Westbrook had a sure TD (to put Philly up by 2 scores) but fell(intentionatly) so the Eaglers could run the clock down. If thats not sportsmanship (or maybe putting the team first) i don't kno what is
Posted by wingnut2280 6 years ago
wingnut2280
We get that the Pats fans are all for them winning. The league is cyclical. Pats fans didn't think running up the score was so acceptable when they were going 1-15 in the nineties. I have no problem with them winning, I'm just pointing out that they are ruining their own reputation. Its all about public persona. There is no point being the champ when everyone but massachusetts college students think you are a bunch of arrogant, unsportsmanlike, cheating idiots. I get that there is no rule against it, but common courtesy says you don't kick a guy when he is down. I would sure want my team to have some class and honor on our way to a historic championship, instead of becoming the Barry Bonds of the NFL. Whether you are a Pats fan or not, running up the score is unsportsmanlike. Its true. Theres no arguing with it. The Pats are the first team in history that has had a major issue with this over the course of a season and they will be remember as the most sucessful, least deserving and least classy franchise in the history of the league. Great athletes and great teams are defined by how they are percieved and valued, not by stat sheets and record books. Lombardi's Packers didn't go undefeated, Montana's 49ers didn't break all the big records. The reason we see these teams as great is because they were great winners. The Pats are an embarrassment.
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