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shlh1514
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KevinL75
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Winning
42 Points

Patriots running up the score

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Started: 12/17/2007 Category: Sports
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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shlh1514

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I think that the Patriots aren't making the teams they play look bad, but trying to show that they are the best team in the NFL and that running up the score will show other teams and people that they need respect.
KevinL75

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Your argument is predicated on the idea that the Pats don't already have respect - I haven't seen anything to suggest that anyone is doubting the dominance of the team this year. The Patriots' perfect record commands respect alone, and running up the score on games would likely engender resentment among commentators and fans.
Debate Round No. 1
shlh1514

Pro

But when people saw the Patriots running up the score, they thought that they were being unclassy, but they just want to win and they don't care how much they win by. The Patriots running up the score is saying that the spygate scandal was nonsense and they don't need to cheat to win. The game after Week 1 vs. the Chargers was a way to show that they are the best and that they could silence the media about the spygate scandal. If you go to this website http://sports.espn.go.com... you will find that the Patriots aren't trying to embarrass their opponents, but tring to use the spygate scandal as a motivation.
KevinL75

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To counter the spygate scandal, all the Patriots had to do was win games without stealing signs. It doesn't matter how much they win by - just winning without video-taping the other team's defensive signals is counter enough to the idea that the Pats only won their first game by stealing the Jets' signs.

That being said, running up the score is not necessary to dispel the spygate scandal (which happened 14 wins ago - I don't think there's any doubt now.) Since it's not necessary to counter the scandal any longer, the Patriots' running up the score will only be taken as unsportsmanlike, and not received well by fans or commentators.

Given all of those things, I think it's safe to conclude that if faced with the option, the Patriots shouldn't knowingly try to run up the score to demonstrate their superiority.
Debate Round No. 2
shlh1514

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But if the Patriots don't want to be talked about on the media, running up the score is their only option. Bill Belichick in the the article in the second round shows that their team shows no mercy to anyone! Meaning that they will run up the score to 75 points, if necessary to win the game. Meaning that running up the score is unsportsmanlike conduct. Unsportsmanlike Conduct means unsportsmanlike - violating accepted standards or rules; "a dirty fighter"; "used foul means to gain power"; "a nasty unsporting serve"; "fined for unsportsmanlike behavior" but nothing says about running the score or a more simpler definition "not fair or sportsmanlike". So running up the score is like a opinion that means different things to different people.
KevinL75

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You said: "Meaning that they will run up the score to 75 points, if necessary to win the game."

If scoring 75 points is necessary to win the game, it's not running up the score. If you think running up the score just means scoring a lot of points, then you're not using the term correctly.

Running up the score means something like instead of calling plays designed to run out the clock when you're up by 3 touchdowns with 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter, you go for that extra touchdown.

It's generally considered to be unsportsmanlike and arrogant, and I don't believe it's in the Patriots' best interest to do it. I have no idea why you think the media will talk negatively about the Patriots if they DON'T run up the score, as you haven't said anything to lend credence to that idea.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by KevinL75 6 years ago
KevinL75
There's a difference between unsportsmanlike conduct (the penalty) and being perceived as unsportsmanlike by the public, IMHO at least.
Posted by shlh1514 6 years ago
shlh1514
Running up the score is not unsportsmanlike conduct and it shows it in the game. The officals don't call a penalty on the teams for running up the score?
Posted by kels1123 6 years ago
kels1123
Also I hate to break it to you , but there are many people who love The Patriots. If others don't that is their problem.. Funny noone likes a team when they start winning alot. Same thing with the Red Sox , all of a sudden after two world Series wins so many people voice they dont like them and they are like the Yankees ...blah blah blah.
Posted by kels1123 6 years ago
kels1123
Its the pros , stop whining about it. One of the teams they played, the coach was interviewed and asked what he thought of the Patriots "running up the score" and he said if the Pats had given up, he and his team would be insulted. He said the Patriots played much better ball than his team and to blame anyone but his own team for the score being high is ridiculous. He said his team should have played better football ... End Of Story.
Posted by wingnut2280 6 years ago
wingnut2280
Are they pros? Yes. Is there technically a rule that says "don't run up the score"? No. But history will remember the Pats for what they were. Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, John Elway. All great professionals, but all great sportsman. Sure, the Pats will have a boatload of records, but in 20 years people will look back on them with disdain. Whats the point of winning when no one recognizes or admires you? Had the Pats come out after the scandal and apologized, people would have been rooting them on. Instead, the Pats are the new Yankees, everyone hates them. Let Tom Brady have the touchdown record. He will beat Manning by a couple TD's and everyone will look at his record and remember that two dozen of them were thrown in the fourth quarter with a lead. Yeah, they are setting all the records, but what is the point if everyone hates them? There is no honor in keeping your starters in when you are up 45-7 with 4 min left, I wouldn't want to set records that way.
Posted by kels1123 6 years ago
kels1123
We are talking the NFL , Pro football ..Pro sports should not try and make the other team feel better by not scoring points. You have to score as many points as you can to guarentee a win. A team should never feel safe. This isnt little kids playing a game of football and they don't want to hurt another kids feelings. This is pro sports. Why shouldn't Tom Brady be able to play his heart out to win records?? Why shouldn't the team? Why should they play anything less than perfect football to appease others. What about baseball , there are times the scores get crazy ... I have seen the Red Sox beat a team 19-1 and I have seen other teams do the same. Should they just stop the game when they get so far ahead? It is so crazy to me that people are actually complaining that The Patriots score too many points, Come on its pro ball. I agree Ragner Rahl , This is not little kids , its the Pros .
Posted by KevinL75 6 years ago
KevinL75
There's a difference between building a sizable lead and what most would consider "running up the score." Running up the score refers to a situation where you're up by 3 touchdowns with 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter, and you choose not to run the ball up the middle or take a knee (etc.)
Posted by Ragnar_Rahl 6 years ago
Ragnar_Rahl
This is the NFL, not some local 10 year olds league. Massive comebacks have happened before, so if you can score, do so.
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