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Pearl Harbor: Japanese Military Failure

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/20/2011 Category: Politics
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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craic37

Pro

Round one is for acceptance. Please ask any questions you have before accepting this debate. Round 2 constructive, Round 3 rebuttal , Round 4 closing arguments.
johncha345

Con

Can you please describe this more in detail..?
Debate Round No. 1
craic37

Pro

Pearl Harbor was a failure for the Japanese for three main reasons. 1) it gave the Japanese "victory disease" 2) the Japanese primary mission failed. and 3) it "awakened a sleeping giant.
The online sensagent dictionary defines victory disease as "a psychological phenomenon noted in various episodes of military history in which, because of complacency brought on by a victory or series of victories, an engagement ends disastrously for a commander and his forces" (Victory Disease). Sue Brown states that the victory at Pearl Harbor was a disaster because afterward it gave them victory disease and they ran into battle after battle and lost (Brown). In an online military review Major Karcher explains how arrogance has a lot to do with victory disease. "A nation with a strong, proven military and a highly developed economy will display a national pride that can easily develop into arrogance. National arrogance can lead to an expectation for quick, decisive victories in almost any undertaking, especially a military conflict." (Karcher) The Japanese victory disease can be seen as they entered battle after battle constantly underestimating the United States power and overestimating their own military power, which caused defeat after defeat in the battle over the Pacific. It was so destructive that towards the end of World War II, as Japanese Casualties soared over one million (Ready), Japanese soldiers fell back to kamikaze tactics. Over all, the victory disease that Japan received from Pearl Harbor certainly helped them towards their road to destruction.
Pearl Harbor was a mission failure for the Japanese for a lot of reasons. One reason is that there was only small damage to the U.S. fleet and aircraft. Sue Brown explains that of the 21 ships that were reported as damaged only 2 were unsalvageable, and by December 20 because of repairs and new planes shipped from the mainland, there were almost as many fully functional planes as there were before the attack on Pearl Harbor (Brown). According to a PBS article on Pearl Harbor, the Japanese hoped destroying Pearl Harbor would give them a two year head start to domination of the Pacific. (Pearl Harbor) However this objective was not reached and America was ready for war much sooner than Japan had hoped. The Japanese also failed to bombard and destroy the dry docks, repair facilities, and the fuel storage. One of the largest disappointments for the Japanese was the fact that the U.S carrier fleet was not to be found at Pearl Harbor. It could have been worse if Japan had tried to invade Hawaii but apparently such an idea was beyond Japan and any real advantage Japan could have had was lost when they left America to start repairs after the attack. In other words Pearl Harbor may have been an inconvenience, but it was certainly not a disaster.
Even Yamamoto said "I fear we will awaken a sleeping giant." (qtd in Pearl Harbor) Pearl Harbor certainly woke up America. American production sped up to prepare for World War II at a rate neither Japan or Germany could have even imagined. According to EH.net civilian employment jumped 7 percent between 1940 and 1942. Also national unemployment dropped from 8.1 percent in 1940 to 2.7 percent in 1942 and later to 0.7 percent in 1944 (Tassava). Americans were never more ready to work as war propaganda posters encouraged people to save gas and meat, grow their own food, recycle metals that could make planes and ammo, join the military, buy war bonds, and build bomb shelters. The economy started looking good and World War II is often said to be responsible for pulling the United States out of the great depression. America pulled its self together and active personnel skyrocketed from less than 500,000 in 1940 to over 12 million in 1945. ( "Active Duty Military Personnel, 1940–2011.") An increase of 2400 percent! Strictly speaking, America woke up. Works cited will be posted in next round for lack of space.
johncha345

Con

johncha345 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
craic37

Pro

Works cited are as followed
Works Cited
. "Active Duty Military Personnel, 1940–2011." infoplease. infoplease, 2007. Web. 20 Dec 2011. .
Brown, Sue Avery. "Japan's Mistake." People. People Magazine, 12/0. Web. 20 Dec 2011. <http://www.people.com...;.
Fischer, John. "A Brief History of Pearl Harbor prior to World War II." about.com. The New York Times Company, 2011. Web. 20 Dec 2011. <http://gohawaii.about.com...;.
. "PEARL HARBOR." The Perilous Fight. PBS, 2003. Web. 20 Dec 2011. <http://www.pbs.org...;.
Ready, J. L.. "Casualty Section." World war II Timeline. Arms and Armour, 2006. Web. 20 Dec 2011. <http://www.worldwar-2.net...;.
Tassava, Christopher J. , Tassava. "The American Economy during World War 2." The American economy during wwii. Economic History Association, 05. Web. 20 Dec 2011. .
Timothy Karcher, . "The Victory Disease." Air University. N.p., 2003. Web. 20 Dec 2011. <http://www.au.af.mil...;.
. "Victory Disease." sensagent. wikipedia, 2011. Web. 20 Dec 2011. <http://dictionary.sensagent.com... disease/en-en/>.

looking forward to hearing from my opponent.
johncha345

Con

johncha345 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
craic37

Pro

craic37 forfeited this round.
johncha345

Con

johncha345 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by craic37 5 years ago
craic37
that is the attack in general.
Posted by craic37 5 years ago
craic37
Resolved: that Pearl Harbor was a Japanese failure.
Posted by CAPLlock 5 years ago
CAPLlock
Someone C/P or link it to us.
Posted by BlackVoid 5 years ago
BlackVoid
I think he's referencing a chain e-mail thats been going around a lot recently that talks about some mistakes Japan made in the attack.
Posted by CAPLlock 5 years ago
CAPLlock
He is trolling.
Posted by Ore_Ele 5 years ago
Ore_Ele
This really needs to be expanded upon. Are we talking about only the battle, or the ramifications of the battle?
Posted by 16kadams 5 years ago
16kadams
wait the battle or the whole war it started
Posted by 16kadams 5 years ago
16kadams
wait the battle or the whole war it started
Posted by 16kadams 5 years ago
16kadams
lol are you kidding?
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Vote Placed by Man-is-good 5 years ago
Man-is-good
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Reasons for voting decision: Both sides forfeited, but johnchan345 forfeited more....Pro managed to at least uphold the resolution by noting how the attack on Pearl Harbor not only proved costly by giving them "victory disease" that would lead to more and more casualties , a failure to achieve the overall goal of facilitating their domination of the Pacific and especially by provoking the US to attack. Sources were also provided, so additional points for arguments and sources are to be given to Pro.