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People Not having a Job Because they were born into Poverty?

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Started: 9/4/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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I just read a ladies debate saying people were born into poverty? How can someone be born into such a thing when they can be successful as they choose? She then stated the government should keep giving out food stamps for these type of people who simply cant work because they were born into poverty


I will make the presumption that you are trying to say that, 'the fact someone is born into poverty is no excuse for them to stay poor.'

Now to me, this appears to be quite naive.

Poverty is often centralized around a particular area, the poverty in that area not only effects the people, but the hospitals, the recreation centers and perhaps most destructively the schools. So these children born into their relative deprivation find themselves with less education and therefore less opportunities to escape their social situation.

The lack of education, plus a lack of opportunities creates a cycle of poverty that is passed down from generation to generation.
Debate Round No. 1


Just because your "area" as you say has low standards does not mean you cant go get an education that is the point of school is to LEARN things! Once you learn you can get a good job, and to add a cherry on top the gov't pays for people with low standards schooling. OH and Phones, Food, Health care, and the monthly check on top of it. No wander they dont want to work or get educated. Look at all those Freebees they got right there.


So everyone can go to school, learn and then get a good job? The answer simply is no. The economical system we have in place needs educational winners anď losers in order to allow the system to continue. Winners get good jobs, losers get bad jobs.

Living in an impoverished area generally means that a heightened use of slang will occur, this is the form of english that the child will learn. How could the child then achieve a good education when all the school textbooks are written in a language that is only partially understandable, this is called the restrictive code and is a widely accepted sociological theory.

I will ask you a simple question, and i would like an honest answer.

after trying your best in a losing battle against education and leaving school with poor grades.

You are faced with two options

Would you clean public toilets for 15k a year

or stay at home and recieve 15k a year?

The answer is simple.
Debate Round No. 2


You should not base it all off of 1 Job opportunity, there are plenty more jobs then cleaning toilets and to be truthful i would rather work for my money then to bum off other peoples hard earned money. So my point here, it is more important to earn money yourself then to live off the government.


JoshRice forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by cheyennebodie 3 years ago
Of course the more America slides into socialism and communism under Obama, the opportunities will be far less. But when the going gets tough, the tough get going. That is a true statement.I was born intoverty myself. Father left my mother with 4 children never to be heard from again.Money was very tight. But I did have one advantage, an honorable mother. Went to work at a low paying job. NEVER took welfare. Raised us kids in an old hose, paid her own bills the first of the month.Then we have the welfare crowd. Sitting around watching the calendeer for the first of the month . Their children would not know honor if it ran over them with a truck. But all of them can , and some do, rise above that dishonorable lifestyle.We are not a hindu nation. Where they treat people born in one clanever rise out of it. That is why they have the caste system. In America, there are many people who rise in wealth not hampered by social restraints. Now there are plenty government hindrances to creating wealth. But the dildgent can overcome even those.
Posted by Ragnar 3 years ago
Look at it like this, when you got your first job it was probably within the same town as you. Now imagine being from a poor area where there was not that job... it's a cycle, one people should strive to break, but with too many children born not everyone has a chance at.
Posted by matt2122 3 years ago
People are born into a poor family okay i get that but thats not an excuse for the to be bummy their whole life like their family.
Posted by Domr 3 years ago
Are you trying to say people have a choice if they are born into poverty or not?
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