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crlopez131
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kgomez210
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People convicted of pedophilic crimes ought to be treated and not incarcerated in all instances.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/25/2014 Category: Education
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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crlopez131

Pro

1.Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to children who have not yet reached puberty.
2.A pedophilic crime is when a person has been convicted for acting based on his or her sexual attraction to children.
3.If people convicted of pedophilic crimes are treated and not incarcerated in all instances, then their pedophilic behavior can be prevented.
4.Treatment is the administration or application of remedies to a patient for an illness, disorder or injury.
5.If a person has an illness, disorder or injury then he or she should be treated, if treatment is available.
6.Pedophilia has been diagnosed as a disorder.
7.This disorder is associated with mental, emotional and/or behavioral problems.
8.Treatment is available to reduce or prevent the expression of pedophilic behavior.
9.If the pedophilic behavior is prevented then he or she will not commit pedophilic crimes.
10.Not committing pedophilic crimes is good.
11.Treatment is good for the individual since their disorder will be treated for the benefit for his or her own health.
12.Negative consequences of treatment such as not always curing pedophilic behavior, being costly and resulting in partial loss of identity are acceptable in light of the benefits resulting from treatment.
13.Incarceration is the state of being confined in a prison.
14.If people convicted of pedophilic crimes are not treated and incarcerated in all instances, then their health conditions will most likely worsen.
15.Incarceration will prevent treatment for the inmate.
16.If treatment is prevented then he or she will continue their pedophilic behavior.
17.Continuing pedophilic behavior is bad.
18.Furthermore, incarceration can make these individuals worsen.
19.Issues with prisons such as overpopulation, prison violence and the damaging impact on the families of the inmates may only worsen the health of the pedophiles.
20.It may cause further mental, physical and emotional distress as a result.
21.This is not good because instead of treating a condition, incarceration worsens it or gives rise to more health issues.
22.Positive consequences of incarceration such as deterrence, preventing victim revenge and keeping society relatively safe are not acceptable in light of deteriorating the health of the individual.
23.More acceptable benefits result from treatment than from incarceration.
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24.Therefore, people convicted of pedophilic crimes ought to be treated and not incarcerated in all instances.
kgomez210

Con

1.Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to children who have not yet reached puberty.
2.Pedophiliac crime is when a person has been convicted for acting based on his or her sexual attraction to children.
3.If people convicted of pedophilic crimes they should be incarcerated in all instances, then society and the children won"t be affected by their pedophilic behavior.
4.Incarceration is the state of being confined in a prison.
5.Pedophilia has been diagnosed as a sexual orientation.
6.Sexual orientation is a sexual interest that is instinctive and unalterable.
7.It is impossible to treat a sexual orientation, which in this case is a sexual preference that pedophiles have towards children.
8.Allowing treatment for these pedophiles will only prevent them from acting out on their wants, needs, and desires won"t prevent them from wanting the children.
9.In those cases society is gambling whether they will commit the pedophilic crime again.
10.Not having pedophilic criminals in the society is good.
11.Incarceration is good for those pedophiliacs because their sexual preferences cannot be cured.
12.Other negative consequences of incarcerated and not treating pedophiles is that the root cause isn"t treated, not all of them act on their thoughts, and people who think they are pedophiles won"t reach out for help without a fear of getting locked up are all acceptable in the light of locking away all Pedophiles.
13.Treatment refers to the application of remedies to a patient for a disease.
14.Since pedophilia is a sexual orientation, like being gay or bi-sexual, and not a disease it can"t be cured.
15.If people convicted of pedophilic crimes are incarcerated in all instances, then the society will be free of the pedophiliacs.
16.Treatment will be a waste of time because the minds of Pedophiliacs have an unusual wiring in their brains structure that programs them to want children, in a sexual way.
17.Incarcerating Pedophiliacs will confine them in prison and keep them from harming the children in society.
18.Positive consequences of treatment are that they can stop the pedophiliacs from acting on their behavior, it will relieve the prisons from over population are not acceptable in light of having a chance to harm the children in society.

19.Pedophiles should be incarcerated and not be treated, in all instances.
Debate Round No. 1
crlopez131

Pro

There is controversy that Pedophilia is not treatable because it is not a disorder. Premise 7 states that Pedophilia has been associated with mental, emotional and/or behavioral problems. If this is the case then there can be no denying that it is some type of illness. Studies have shown that pedophiles often have low self-esteem, poor social skills or have an impaired self-concept. Pedophiles have flawed personalities and these issues can be resolved. If it is a disorder then there may be a treatment to change or prevent such behavior. There are programs that have reduced pedophilic behavior and this proves that pedophilia is something that can be treated.
kgomez210

Con

Reading an article, "A Disorder, Not a Crime," in the New York States: "that while treatment cannot eliminate a pedophile"s sexual interests" but can help him manage the urges." Going back to my original Premise 5, although the article is about explaining pedophilia, as a disorder it still says the urges of "sexual interests" will still be there.
Debate Round No. 2
crlopez131

Pro

The claim is that Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and if it is a sexual orientation then its not treatable. The claim assumes that sexual orientation is a way of life not a disorder. The claim goes further by stating Pedophilia is a sexual orientation like heterosexuality, bisexuality and homosexuality. Sexual orientation is a person"s sexual identity in relation to the gender to which they are attracted to; it is the state of being a heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual. This claim deviates from the issue. The problem with pedophilia is not that the person is sexually attracted to men or women, it"s that the person is sexually attracted to boys and/or girls. Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation, meaning it is not the attraction to a male or female, it is a disorder of sexual preference. It is a disorder of sexual preference because pedophilic behavior causes harm, unlike sexual orientation. Pedophilia may put children at risk because they are not in the age of corresponding to the sexual attraction of pedophiliacs. It is why pedophiliac behavior should be prevented. Treatment can help prevent it.
kgomez210

Con

Sexual orientation refers to the sex of those to whom one is sexually and romantically attracted. If we accept "bestiality" as a sex concept where people want to have sex with animals then why we can"t accept "pedophilia" as a sex concept where these people want to have sex relationships if those individuals who have yet to see puberty. In Christina"s Premise 2 she acknowledges that the crime consist of a person acting on their sexual attraction to children; but to a pedophilic this is all they are attracted to so why can"t it be said that a being a pedophilia is a sexual orientation. Therefore as you see you can"t cure a gay and make them straight just as you can"t treat a pedophilic to not like children. All the treatment is going to do is help him/her manage those urges, but they will still want them. The arguments goes in further stating that the disorder is associated with mental, and emotional, and/or behavioral problems however the define Christiana stated in Premise 2 doesn"t state that the crime occurs based on the following issues associated with this "disorder."
Debate Round No. 3
crlopez131

Pro

1.People claim if a person is convicted of a pedophilic crime then he or she ought to be incarcerated and not treated because it is a better alternative to treatment.
2.The claim goes further by stating that treatment does not always cure pedophilic behavior so when the offender is released after treatment he or she will pose a threat to the children.
3.There is a risk that the person will commit a pedophilic crime again.
4.Incarceration prevents this by imprisoning the offender, making it impossible for the person to commit a pedophilic crime.
5.Incarceration physically prevents the offender from re-offense, but it does nothing to prevent pedophilic behavior from reoccurring.
6.Treatment offers an opportunity to reduce pedophilic behavior.
7.By treating the patient"s emotional, mental or physical difficulties then there is a chance at curing the individual.
8.If the person is cured then upon release then he or she will not engage in pedophilic behavior.
9.So it is more likely for the person to commit a pedophilic crime again after incarceration, since incarceration only serves to physically disable the pedophilic behavior.
10.Incarceration keeps the individual away from society so he or she would not commit pedophilic crimes, but once the person is released there is no barrier preventing re-offense.
11.The disorder remains.
12.Treatment, even if it doesn"t always cure a person, attempts to prevent future pedophilic behavior.
13.Ultimately treatment serves a better purpose at preventing pedophilic behavior permanently.

14.Therefore, treating persons convicted of a pedophilic crime is a better alternative to incarceration.
kgomez210

Con

1.Christina has claimed if a person is convicted of a pedophilic crime then he or she ought to be treated and not incarcerated because pedophilia is a disorder and disorders can be treated.
2.Her claim also states that this disorder is associated with mental, emotional, and/or behavioral problems.
3.With treatment as an only option we run the risk of letting pedophiles go through society as suppressors just merely repressing their feelings toward the children.
4.We are gambling with society by just treating them and putting them back into to society where we run the risk of the pedophilic crime being committed again.
5.Treating a pedophilic individual will create a lot of relapsing where they will have to continue over and over again to go through treatment because the root cause won"t ever be cured.
6.Incarceration will put an end to the pedophilic crime.
7.No pedophilias on the streets and no pedophilic crime will occur.
8.With treatment there"s no telling whether the criminal likes children or not anymore because a sexual orientation can"t be cured.
9.Therefore Pedophilic crime continues to happen.
10.In due course; incarceration serves a better purpose than treatment.
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Thus, any persons convicted of a pedophilic crime should be incarcerated in all instances, and not treated.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Wylted 2 years ago
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I'd love to take pro in one of these
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Reasons for voting decision: This debate suffered badly from lack of reference to source material. If one side had referenced their point of view with some hard data it would have clinched it. At present I think it is a draw as no-one proved anything and whilst an interesting excerise in speculation it did not lead to a resolution being proven either in fact or probability. Grammar, sources and conduct also drawn.