People criticizing Christians because of what they believe in.
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He is choosing to sentence me to hell because I am an atheist. Add any bells and whistles you want, in the end the net is that I do not believe in ridiculous nonsense and you think I will go to hell for it. not only that, but you think this is a good thing since you think your god is good.
Putting all of this together, you think it would be good for me to be tortured, and you have the gall to whine like a little baby about being told that you are an immoral sack of dirt? Go cry into a cup of milk as I don't care that a person who thinks I deserve torture has himself a cry.
Read your own words. You believe that one must ask your particular version of a particular god for forgiveness for particular crimes that he finds particularly offensive or else he will roast you.
It is dishonest to refuse to admit that that your beliefs necessarily mean that you believe that some people will be sent to hell and that you think it is a good thing. Every branch of Christianity would say that if I were killed in the next 5 minutes I would go to hell and deserve it while the Catholic pedophile priests get to go to heaven if they say sorry to God. Note, they need to apologize to an imaginary god to get forgiven, not to the actual victims.
Your beliefs are based on a morally bankrupt ideology. Now, I doubt most Christians actually consider the fact that they think it is good for people to burn forever for not believing in an almighty wizard playing a neverending game of hide and seek, but now you have been exposed to this fact about your religion and you can no longer accept your religion without accepting you would support me being tortured.
As to your link, this is just awful. I will rebut each point made, in order.
Flaw that they all fall under: Even if all of the arguments given worked, they only get you to the point of having a hypothesis. You still need to prove that a god is possible and that it created anything. On the assumption that I have an angry and violent roommate, the bruise on my face is much more likely to have occurred. Without that roommate it is odd for a grown man who doesn't get in fights to have a bruise like that. Does that tell you anything about whether I actually have a roommate? No.
1) Most of the universe, and even the earth, is uninhabitable. The tiny bit we are able to live in is not designed for us, rather we evolved to survive it. This argument would be like a puddle remarking how the pothole it is in was clearly designed to fit the puddle since the puddle fit in the pothole perfectly.
2) This is simply false. There are current models about how the universe came into being from "nothing".
3) Pure argument from ignorance fallacy. The author doesn't understand how something works, so god.
4) More argument from ignorance. Additionally, that only a small number of building blocks exist actually makes sense in a naturalistic sense since it is difficult to get any made at all, so a simpler system fits reality better.
5) This one had to be a joke, it is just so bad. He knows because he knows that he knows that he knows that god exists.
6) This is almost as bad as 5. The proof is the stuff written in a book. That does not prove miracles happened any more than comic books prove Spider Man was real.
By the by, based on the logic my opponent presented in his last post, only Holocaust survivors could hate the Nazis. Christianity is a bunch of fairy tails that were useful in scaring people into building societies, but it is now a burden on society. That, however, is not the point. The point is that the doctrine requires bigotry as I clearly pointed out.
This is a flat lie. I was a Christian for 27 years and I bloody well know the faith. My opponent is basically just making things up and pretending that his faith is not the morally bankrupt thing that it is.
" If you are a good person and do good deeds then good things shall happen to you " Lies. *putting my Christian hat on again* You cannot buy your way into heaven with works. If you could, then the sacrifice of Jesus was pointless. He had to die for sins to be forgiven, but you need to accept that sacrifice.
Look at your own arguments. YOu have flip flopped on this issue from the start and now that you can clearly see that it is morally bankrupt, you are forced to deny that one must accept the grace of god to go to heaven.
I suggest my opponent come to the side he really supports which is atheism. Sure, it is scary to die, but making up stories won't change that and my opponent has clearly realized that his religion's position makes no sense and is immoral.
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Vote Placed by johnlubba 11 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro's conduct was awful and couldn't contain himself for insults.
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