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cafoltzy
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EdgeOfTheInfinite
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People should fear dolphins more than sharks

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Started: 2/4/2017 Category: Science
Updated: 11 months ago Status: Debating Period
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cafoltzy

Pro

Round 1= acceptance... I say that people should fear dolphins more than sharks.
EdgeOfTheInfinite

Con

I accept.
Debate Round No. 1
cafoltzy

Pro

Thanks for accepting, here goes...

I say people should begin to fear dolphins more than sharks. Yes, I know at some point the death rate of people from shark attacks each year is going to come up some time in the argument so might as well say it now... in the United States, nineteen people are attacked by sharks and two of them are fatalities. Now that I got that repetitive fact out of the way, I can challenge it. More people end up struck by lightning or crushed by falling vending machines in a year compared to being fatally attacked by a shark. And, many more people are killed by fireworks. So your chances of actually getting attacked by one are pretty slim. 1 in 3,748,067 to be exact. And yes, I do realize that there are a lot less deaths from dolphins although there are records of a wild killer whale injuring someone and four instances when killer whales have killed trainers in captivity plus others who have been seriously injured. So yes, the numbers stand as so but I'm arguing from a different perspective. As much as numbers like these help us see what HAS happened, they may falsely lead us in a wrong direction in the future.
For instance, a diving expedition may go wrong in a matter of seconds. Lets say Jim and his diving crew plus cameramen are diving at a certain fish hot spot. While there, they can see a pod of orcas swimming together in the distance. The boat that they arrived at the hot spot in radios to them and tells them that they see some orcas and tells them to be careful. Jim, being not such a seasoned diver, ignores that last part like he is ignorant to the dangers of a wild animal. (You have to also play in the chances of the orcas being disturbed by other human activities.) So Jim doesn't exactly call in the group for safety. Instead, he watches as the orcas make their way towards the group. (For this next part, I'm not saying orcas will attack naturally just because they see a group of people because sharks don't exactly do the same like portrayed in Jaws.) A certain male in the group feels pressured by one of cameraman's tethers connected to a camera. The orca takes the tether in its mouth, and pulls and drags the cameraman with it. Now, this might not be the most accurate or believable anecdote, but still has a greater chance of happening than getting attacked by a shark. And this story could end in one or two ways; the cameraman gives up his camera out of fear and retreats to the ship or he freezes in fear of the massive animal and lets go a little later suffering from a dislocated shoulder or possibly a severely broken arm. So the point of this is that wild animals, even dolphins, are unpredictable and can be just as dangerous or more than sharks also due to their bigger population.
To add, even if it weren't a pod of orcas rather a pod of bottlenose dolphins a similar occurrence may take place. The dolphins may become to playful in their frenzy and end up slapping someone or dragging someone down to the bottom. Either way could lead to a potential death if not practiced with calmness. And you must also remember that these animals are not exactly your docile, toothless Grandma or pa. Both bottlenose dolphins, orcas, and a lot of the other types of dolphins have teeth. Yes, a shark's jaws may be equipped with more chompers and replacements, but that doesn't necessarily mean that a bite from a dolphin might hurt any less. A shark's bite will most likely cleanly bite a limb off... (clean used in way of how many times a bite must be preformed to result in a complete loss of limb... not the amount of blood lost or appearance of the wound.) A dolphins bite, with meaning, will inflict a great deal of damage to a diver. Although the force behind a behind a dolphin's bite is not as great as a bite of a shark's, both bites may cause the death of an unfortunate victim. Yes, a dolphin does not chew its prey, but under certain circumstances, whose to say a dolphin wouldn't take a snap at someone who deals a great bit of aggravation?
And if you were to challenge me on sharks not needed aggravation to attack a person, I would have to accept that challenge. Just like dolphins, sharks do not attack just because they see a person. In fact, a shark may be swimming right next to someone who is the water at a beach and they won't even act interested. Most people don't know it, but a shark may actually be a few feet away from them in the water. And a seriously misused myth that sharks attack people because they may think that they look like a seal, is not a good argument to put up. I do not believe this myth. Rather, I believe sharks attack out of pure curiosity. And sharks don't necessarily have hands to investigate things with, they have mouths. So like a toddler or young child, they'll use their mouths to learn about new things. It is also said that bull sharks will often ram their victim with their nose before biting. And if you were to find yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time, most would suffer from a heart attack first from the site of the animal before actually getting bitten. Heart disease is actually the number one killer. So to sum this all up, sharks do need aggravation to attack people. Instead, they attack from pure curiosity. And dolphins, especially orcas, prove to be just as dangerous as sharks.
EdgeOfTheInfinite

Con

I honestly do not believe sharks are dangerous. I am a strong advocate against shark fin soup and absolutely love sharks, but compared to dolphins they are far more dangerous.

Rebuttals
"More people end up struck by lightning or crushed by falling vending machines in a year compared to being fatally attacked by a shark. And, many more people are killed by fireworks. So your chances of actually getting attacked by one are pretty slim. 1 in 3,748,067 to be exact."
This is not a rebuttal. That is an argument for sharks being less dangerous than perceived.

My opponent then proceeds to go on about a preposterous hypothetical. All members of an expedition are thoroughly briefed on all the dangers of the ocean. The first rule of working with any animals including in zoos and vets is to treat all animals as wild animals, so no one would be foolhardy enough to approach an orca like a bewildered five year old. All approaches with animals are with extreme caution or care. Instances like this are just as rare if not more than shark attacks. That's why you don't see "rest in piece bill" on every documentary.

"The dolphins may become to playful in their frenzy and end up slapping someone or dragging someone down to the bottom. Either way could lead to a potential death if not practiced with calmness"
This is not dolphin specific this can happen with each and every species including baby sharks actually. With a team that has spent a lot of time with them or breeders sometimes even strangers sharks can be pretty playful, but a wrong move and you get an arm snapped off or at least a good tear in your swim suit. A wrong move with a dolphin maybe you get snapped at or hit my a flipper.

"And a seriously misused myth that sharks attack people because they may think that they look like a seal, is not a good argument to put up."
It's not a myth[1].

"I believe sharks attack out of pure curiosity."
No this is incorrect. The reason sharks only attack once is because sharks only see faint shadows. So if they see something that resembles their pray they bite once. When they get a mouth full of plastic or human flesh(they most likely don't like the taste of humans or they would attack us more) they swim off[2].

"So like a toddler or young child, they'll use their mouths to learn about new things."
You obviously don't know much about sharks.

"orcas, prove to be just as dangerous as sharks."
You are not aloud to change your stance in the middle of a debate. You are arguing on the side that dolphins should be feared MORE than sharks not the same.

Dolphins are not as aggressive as sharks
This[3] video shows that dolphins do not see humans as a threat. They're an intelligent species and they like us as we like them. It is very apparent that they are not very aggressive simply by the fact that we can feed them at Sea World and similar parks and their are multiple companies that let the average person swim with them. Yes you can swim with sharks, but those are for thrill chasers and you have to be locked in a metal cage to do it. People do free swim as well but those are professionals. An 8 year girl can swim with dolphins, but she cannot swim with sharks. Most 18 year olds would not want to do that.

Sharks do more damage than dolphins
If you get bitten by a shark you need immediate medical attention. You loose a lot of blood and might possibly loose a limb or at least a lot of flesh[4]. When a dolphin attacks you get a check up to make sure you're not infected, a band-aid and kiss to make it better[5]. In the surfer's case he was just cruising enjoying some waves, in the girl's case, which she was warned about she was holding up food. The shark didn't need anything to attack, the dolphin did otherwise it wouldn't have.

Citation
[1]http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov...
[2]72 Most Dangerous Animals, Season 1, Episode 6 12:30
[3]http://www.dailymotion.com...
[4]http://www.discovery.com...
[5]https://www.youtube.com...
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