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Kierkegaard
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People that drive electric vehicles care about the Earth more than people that drive non-hybrid cars

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Started: 1/16/2008 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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solo

Con

I've heard some say that people who drive electric vehicles, care about the Earth more than people that drive non-hybrid cars that grossly pollute our planet. I disagree. I think many of these people care just as much, if not more, but cannot afford to purchase an expensive electric vehicle. The automotive industry hasn't made enough progress for electric vehicles to be affordable by the general public. Many people also have to commute long distances and an electic car either can't operate on the freeway for safety reasons or it cannot make the necessary journey.
Kierkegaard

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Although your point is understandable, it's simply not true.

First off, I'd like to point out that people who drive electric cars care about Earth and the planet's welfare an extremely large amount. If someone is willing to give that large of an investment into an issue such as that, they're obviously going to care about it a lot.

So, if someone cared about the environment that much (which is an extremely big amount), but couldn't afford a hybrid car, do you seriously think they're going to drive around in a car, knowing that they're polluting the Earth and destroying what they care about so much?

What you fail to realize is that there are many other different modes of transportation for getting around. And not only are these modes of transportation more cost-effective, they also pollute a whole lot less. Some of these may include walking, riding a bike, taking the public bus, etc, etc.

If someone cared enough about the Earth that if they had the money to afford such a humongous investment as a hybrid car, but didn't have the money, they'd use a different mode of transportation to get where they needed to go.
Debate Round No. 1
solo

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No, that simply shows that they have more money to spend on such a purchase. Not everyone has the same luxury (or income).

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Many believe that it is more important to take care of their families and have to commute long distances in order to provide food and shelter for their loved ones. Would you have them suffer and die for their love of the Earth? It's a matter of self-preservation. They must put themselves first and do so under the impression that future generations will be able to repair the damage that today's society is inflicting on the planet.

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Yes, but most people have hectic lives to navigate through. Public transportation won't allow a single parent to drop off his/her kids at school on the way to the office that is thirty miles away, while allowing the family to get an adequate amount of sleep. The majority of these families recycle and conserve energy and do everything they can to care about the Earth, but it's unfair to say they care less than others because of their financial situations.

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Yes, unless they had commitments that caused them to make the tough choice. I believe non-hybrid auto drivers care for the Earth just as much as electric car drivers, but they just don't have the means of making the same kind of contribution to the environment.

Thanks for the debate.
Kierkegaard

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"No, that simply shows that they have more money to spend on such a purchase. Not everyone has the same luxury (or income)."

What you're failing to realize is that there aren't just two types of incomes: rich and poor. First off, whether someone is EXTREMELY "rich" or moderately "rich", a hybrid car is a large investment either way. Besides, if I was any type of "rich", I could think of many other ways I'd rather spend my money rather than buy a hybrid car. I don't think many people go "My god! I have so much money! I think I'll go buy a hybrid car just because I can!" If anyone takes the time, effort, and money to buy a hybrid car (whether an EXTREMELY large investment or moderately large investment, as it's a large investment either way), then they're going to care more about the environment than people who don't.

"Many believe that it is more important to take care of their families and have to commute long distances in order to provide food and shelter for their loved ones. Would you have them suffer and die for their love of the Earth? It's a matter of self-preservation. They must put themselves first and do so under the impression that future generations will be able to repair the damage that today's society is inflicting on the planet."

Have you ever heard of planes? Or trains? Or boats, perhaps? Each of these modes of transportation carry people long distances. Besides, if not being able to travel somewhere is going to make their family "suffer and die", it's obviously going to be for a job, right? Are you aware that the extremely large majority of jobs give this transportation to their employee instead of just making them spend the however-much-money to buy it?

"Yes, but most people have hectic lives to navigate through. Public transportation won't allow a single parent to drop off his/her kids at school on the way to the office that is thirty miles away, while allowing the family to get an adequate amount of sleep. The majority of these families recycle and conserve energy and do everything they can to care about the Earth, but it's unfair to say they care less than others because of their financial situations."

I'm sorry, but that's just a horrible excuse. If someone cared as much as the people who take the time, money, and effort to buy a hybrid car, then they wouldn't let their life, no matter how hectic, get in the way of helping the environment. Your thirty-miles-away school example is a tad over the top, anyways. If someone's school is actually thirty miles away, then they probably live either in the country or outside of town. The majority of these people get rides from school buses, as limits change for different common lifestyles. As a matter of fact, the majority of "poor"er people live in highly concentrated areas, like cities, for example, so the school wouldn't be thirty miles away. And even IF your example is valid (which its not), if someone cared about the environment as much as someone who'd buy a hybrid car did, they'd find a way. They would find SOME means to get through their life and get still get home for dinner in time. You'd be surprised.

"Yes, unless they had commitments that caused them to make the tough choice. I believe non-hybrid auto drivers care for the Earth just as much as electric car drivers, but they just don't have the means of making the same kind of contribution to the environment."

Of course they have the means. You always have the means. People who drive non-hybrid cars just don't choose to use those means.

No problem. A pleasure.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by sadolite 9 years ago
sadolite
I find that people who think they care about the earth more care less about people.
Posted by C-Mach 9 years ago
C-Mach
Travel, shipping, lead-acid batteries can't be disposed of, lots of zinc required (produces a lot of pollution), etc. Tht is why they are bad for the environment.
Posted by Paco3837 9 years ago
Paco3837
neither driver cares about their effect on the planet, only their self image. I would call hybrid drivers intelligent, as their choice of car affords them maximum efficiency. I do not think there are any major companies producing electric cars anyway.
Posted by Kierkegaard 9 years ago
Kierkegaard
What, and you think it's the same amount of pollution?

Oh, and yes, of course, every single electricity plant in the WORLD is nuclear. That's just common sense! All those dams that use flowing water, all the wind siphons, all the hot-warm water generators just don't exist! That's just a conspiracy, isn't it?

You must be an idiot.
Posted by Mikegj1077 9 years ago
Mikegj1077
Electric cars? How about electric cars charged by electricity from a nuclear power plant? Now, that's something.

Must be an AlGore robot…
Posted by Kierkegaard 9 years ago
Kierkegaard
Whether electric or hybrid, they're both better for the environment and cost a bunch.

...How is it harmful to the environment in any way?
Posted by C-Mach 9 years ago
C-Mach
By electric, do you mean full electric or hybrid, assuming you mean hybrid, even though hybrids actually more harmful to the environment.
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