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esmith1617
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Patrick_Henry
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People who buy hummers have small private parts.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/26/2008 Category: Society
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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esmith1617

Con

That is a ridiculous assertion. Whether or not somebody purchases a hummer has nothing to do with their endowment below the belt.

This should not even dignify a response.
Patrick_Henry

Pro

1.) Size is about perspective. A penis in a Geo-Metro looks larger than a penis in a Hummer.

2.) However, the statement that they're compensating isn't just about the actual size of a man's member. There are many other insecurities that individuals can develop. Many times with men, these can be linked to an overall physical size and strength, or perhaps some sort of mental or financial inadequacy, which they feel they can over come by over zealously projecting some "manly" trait.

3.) There is absolutely no good reason to drive a Hummer, the vehicle is unnecessary and is not the best option for many of the functions that people claim to own them for. The absence of a good, logical reason, causes one to have to assume an emotional reason. "I just like them." Is an emotional reason. It doesn't take Sigmund Freud to get down to it. What emotion could drive a person to purchase a large and expensive vehicle? Obviously some sort of feeling that they need people to perceive them as being both large and successful. Therefore they must not feel large and successful, which naturally translates into a lack of vitality, and in men this means a lack of endowment.

4.) Size is about perspective, it's cheaper and easier for a man with confidence that may also have a small penis to only be involved with women that have small hands, and not care about the size of his vehicle or how he is preceived by others.
Debate Round No. 1
esmith1617

Con

That was a very intelligent response.

I would argue though that somebodys insecurities would often drive them to be a prius driving snob. I do not mean to hate on the prius as I drive a camry hybrid myself. However, many people drive them for the wrong reasons. Often they feel insecure and want a way to feel superior over others. These people I would argue are just as likely to have small penises. Richard Gere for example is an environmental activist and general humanitarian. When he posed nude in a film he had a tiny penis. Arnold Schwarzenegger on the other hand drives a hummer and it is well documented that his penis is huge.

I challenge you to cite other examples of people with hummers having small penises. Otherwise you are just speculating.
Patrick_Henry

Pro

Of course I speculate. It has never been a hobby or research of mine to track the size of a man's penis. However, I can discount the example which you are using. Arnold Schwarzenegger at the time of his Mr. Universe win, and those nude photographs was injecting himself with male growth hormones. It is a documented fact that steroid use causes the growth of the male member, while their testicles shrink in size due to the fact that they're not necessary for producing male hormones.

The result of coming off of steroids is often a loss in muscle mass that is accelerated by the fact that the human body of the user has effectively slacked off on producing male hormones. So, not only would the temporary benefits like large muscles, but also penis tissue would significantly be reduced. Arnold Schwarzenegger became Mr. Universe in the late 1970s. He began driving the civilian version of the Army HUMVEE, which is not the SUV "Hummer" which is ridiculous and impractical, in the 1990s. Perhaps Arnold Schwarzenegger began driving this large vehicle to compensate for an obvious loss of both muscle mass, and perhaps to deal with the insecurity of now having a smaller penis, and physique.

So, to this I ask you, have you seen Arnold Schwarzenegger's penis lately?

When it comes to creating a concrete statistic for the size of a man's penis, it should probably be established only at the fully erect state. The penis is an incredibly receptive organ. It is sensitive to temperature, humidity, and the overall homeostasis stasis of the host body as well as physical sensation and emotional delight or distress. Since size is largely dependent on blood flow, measurements should only be considered at the height of that blood flow to establish accuracy. So, we can't count Richard Gere's nude scene as conclusive evidence of overall penis size. Especially given that it is unlikely that the film could have been released if it featured a fully erect penis. That's just not tasteful.

The insecurities that likely lead to someone purchasing a Prius are much different than those leading to someone who purchases a "Hummer." While someone who is not leading the most environmentally friendly life style might consider their Prius to be a way of excusing minimal effort in other parts of their life, or using it to lord some sort of intellectual superiority over other individuals, there are still plenty of good and logical reasons to own and operate a Prius. This requires much less denial, and much less emotionally based rationalization to drive a Prius because you can always defend it with a sound argument, such as "I get 60 miles to the gallon." Where as the Hummer? To believe you have a good reason to own it is not a belief based on reality.
Debate Round No. 2
esmith1617

Con

Arnold Schwarzenegger may have peaked in the 70's but he didnt lose his physique completely later on. Have you seen Terminator 2 and 3? He was very well defined in both of them. He was driving his giant SUV during the making of these films as well. Yes he lost his physique recently, but hes still confident enough to wear a tiny little spedo. If you dont believe me check out this link
http://www.popular-pics.com...
Also notice his bulge is roughly the same size.
Therefore, my example is very valid.

You have argued well my friend but you have not given me any solid evidence to your assertion. It is dificult for you to argue that there is any correlation between people who drive hummers and penis size since all you are doing is speculating.

People who drive hummers are more manly men and more manly men have bigger penises.

People who dont drive hummers are girly men and have smaller penises.
Patrick_Henry

Pro

No matter how the vote for the debate goes I've won a moral victory in that I sent you to google to search for images of Arnold Schwarzenegger in a speedo.

At any rate, I do not find those images to be acceptable. In both cases, the speedo is dark and details regarding anything, especially a definitively size cannot be made out. Neither photograph meets my criteria of necessary conditions to create a definitive measurement.

Its not just endowment, its more psychological than that. While it's speculating, there certainly is a trend. There's been no research done to definitively prove either stance bas off of proof, and your side has only offered a one time steroid enhanced athlete turned politician, and even then he is likely still compensating. Most people who become obsessed with weight lifting do so out of some former feelings of inferiority.

I'm just going to ignore directly addressing the last statements, because it's all about perspective, and I don't want to have to release personal details.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Chuckles 9 years ago
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heheheh, me & my friend are gonna order a bunch of stickers that say "i'm compensating, OK?" or "i'm compensating for something, guess what?" and slap them on all the bigass trucks we see
Posted by mindjob 9 years ago
mindjob
Oh. i should have read the first comment on here. LOL
Posted by mindjob 9 years ago
mindjob
Wait...con set up the proposition, railed against it, then said it didn't even dignify a response, which he effectively did with his opening round. If it really didn't deserve a response, why did you even create the debate?
Posted by Patrick_Henry 9 years ago
Patrick_Henry
I'm enjoying this too much.
Posted by SportsGuru 9 years ago
SportsGuru
dang it! I was going to take this debate.
Posted by esmith1617 9 years ago
esmith1617
because i hate you and want you to leave
Posted by JustCallMeTarzan 9 years ago
JustCallMeTarzan
If it should not dignify a response, then why did you post it?
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