People who support gay marriage and homosexuality are delusional.
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2. Gay supporters view gays as if they were a race. People who oppose gay marriage see gays in the category with incest, bestiality and pedophilia. Who's right? Race is not even a behavior.
Like homosexuality, incest, bestiality and pedophilia all involve high health risk sexual desires. Race has nothing to do with sexual desires or behavior. Therefore, gay supporters are delusional for even comparing gays to race.
I have accepted this debate because I thought it would be fun, and disprove my opponents point on how supporters of Same Sex Marriage and Homosexuality are not "delusional". To begin, I wish to provide the definition of "delusional" since my opponent has not. The definition is defined as: "H
I never claimed the legalization of gay marriage is unrealistic. Just because something is legal doesn't mean its supporters can't be delusional. Some countries consider atheism a crime and that law is rooted in the belief in God. As an atheist, I don't believe God exist.
Like the legalization of gay marriage, that law is rooted in a delusion. Many gay supporters also embrace delusions. An example is, if a man thinks he's a woman, gay supporters would embrace that delusion even though he's clearly a man. Living in these modern times does not make humans immune to mass delusions.
I ask my opponent how its "delusional" to have the right to have freedom when getting married to the same sex? Because if we still continue to follow the definition of "delusional", it means to have an unrealistic opinion. Is my opponent claiming that an opinion is wrong? An opinion, stated from the article "Fact, Opinion, False Claim, or Untested Claim", it states that an opinion is: "An opinion is a self-report of feelings or personal judgment". In this case, the LGBT Community have an idea that they should have a right to marry someone as the same sex. That is not unrealistic, but is a fact that can happen in society. My opponent is making a claim that all Gay Supporters are "delusional" because of having an opinion that is opposite to his.
Secondly, my opponent gives the following quote: "An example is, if a man thinks he's a woman, gay supporters would embrace that delusion even though he's clearly a man". First off, I wish to state the fact of what the LGBT Community stands for, which is the rights for Same Sex Couples, Bisexuals, and Transgenders. Through research, I found out more information about a Transgender and that its a choice to be the opposite sex. Stated under "Do Transsexuals have a Choice" it states: "The rationality of decisions is very much about the way you view the options. This culture wants to convince us that no rational person would do either, and enforces that decision with stigma". If we define "rational", it is defined as: "Based on or in accordance with reason or logic". Technically being Transgender is a choice, it falls more under the category of a choice in being rational, and rational is the usage of logic. That is not delusional because of the decision being more logical, than "unrealistic".
This is a loaded question. I didn't say it's a delusion to have freedom to marry the same sex. My point is, gay supporters are delusional for believing that allowing gay marriage is marriage "equality" when other types of marriages aren't legal. By definition, equality means equality for everyone. if it's "equality" for some, then its not "equality". some people would like to marry their sisters or more than one person. those people can't marry who they want so therefore, there is no marriage "equality"
"Because if we still continue to follow the definition of "delusional", it means to have an unrealistic opinion"
Believing that allowing gay marriage is marriage "equality" is clearly a delusion when other types of marriages aren't legal.
"Is my opponent claiming that an opinion is wrong? An opinion, stated from the article "Fact, Opinion, False Claim, or Untested Claim", it states that an opinion is: "An opinion is a self-report of feelings or personal judgment"
A belief is an opinion and an outrageous, false belief is a delusion. Therefore, believing that allowing gay marriage is marriage "equality" is a delusion
"In this case, the LGBT Community have an idea that they should have a right to marry someone as the same sex"
The belief that fuels the idea is a delusion
"That is not unrealistic, but is a fact that can happen in society. My opponent is making a claim that all Gay Supporters are "delusional" because of having an opinion that is opposite to his"
Again, you spewed a straw man fallacy. My point is, the belief that fuels the support is a delusion
"Technically being Transgender is a choice, it falls more under the category of a choice in being rational"
Using my opponents logic, If a man who's darker than Michael Jordan Chooses to be Caucasian even though his DNA clearly shows that he's black, that man's choice is somehow "rational". In reality, That man's "choice is clearly fueled by a delusion
Any man who thinks he's a woman even though the scientific evidence clearly shows that he's a man has to be delusional.
Gay supporters are delusional
For the final round, I wish to point out some flaws within my opponents argument. The first being that my opponent is referring to that now that Same Sex Marriage is legalized does not mean we have achieved "true" equality. If we look at my opponents point of view, everyone in the country is technically delusional. We all want to be equal, but we are not truly "equal"; however we make the assumption of being "equal". Technically, nothing in our society will be truly equal; but we just assume everything is equal. If we take a look again at the definition of "delusional" it is defined as: "H
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Reasons for voting decision: The major problem with Pro's case is just that, once again, he's not arguing the resolution. He appears to be more interested in arguing for "People who believe they are supporting equality by supporting gay marriage and homosexuality are delusional." Pro then ascribes equality as the reason people support gay marriage and homosexuality. But he waits until R3 (too late) to explain what his view of delusional is, letting Con define the term. The definition provided has nothing to do with the reasoning behind why one wants gay marriage, but rather whether or not gay marriage is achievable. Much as Pro would have liked a different debate, he takes far too long refocusing, and fails in his basic burden by not showing that all people who support gay marriage and homosexuality do so to support equality, something that his argument requires to be true. Both sides go off on several tangents, but this is where the debate resides, and thus, I must vote Con.
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