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Percy Jackson VS Jason Grace

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Started: 6/19/2012 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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DebateBehemoth

Pro

I will try to prove that percy jackson son of posiedon is stronger than jason grace son of zeus from the rick riordan series
No semantics
WesternGuy2

Con

Jason Grace will be described as son of Zeus.

1. He has lightning. Lightning can electrocute water, so he would win against Percy

2. He can travel faster. He can travel by plane while Percy can't

Good Luck!!
Debate Round No. 1
DebateBehemoth

Pro

I thank you for accepting this debate
I Will Refute and argue
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1.Percy has the ability to not get wet or not get touched by water even under water himself so electricity will not reach him Percy can also turn into a hurricane which will defend him and send Jason flying.Feat wise Percy was able to beat 2 Giants and the leader of the titans
2.Plane who needs a plane when you can turn into a hurricane or even run on water Percy can also make an underwater path to his destination he can control the water to push a boat or just him faster than boats while jason still needs to buy a ticket Percy can travel on a plane the problem was that Zeus may or may not strike percy plus Percy has posiedons guidance so huge chance that zeus will not strike the plane

Percy Jackson has also been in more books giving him more powers and experience since he was the first creation
I got lazy and decided Feats next time
WesternGuy2

Con

Good Luck!!

Your first argument is that Percy has the ability to not get electrocuted and get wet. He also has hurricanes

My response is that Electricity electrocutes water. This is science.
In case you weren't aware, while Percy was fighting the Titans in NYC, In California, Jason was fighting at the Titan Base.

Your second argument was about planes. Jason does not need a plane to fly, he can fly without a plane. Percy, however, only flew on a plane once, with the master bolt. Zeus wouldn't destroy him because he had the master bolt. At the end of the book, Zeus said to Percy to never fly on a plane again. Poseiden does not have power over Zeus.

Percy being in more books doesn't mean that he has more experience. Instead, more people know about him. While Percy was on missions or training, Jason was doing the same in the Roman Camp.

Thanks you, and vote CON
Debate Round No. 2
DebateBehemoth

Pro

REFUTE THAN EXPLAIN
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My response is that Electricity electrocutes water. This is science.
In case you weren't aware, while Percy was fighting the Titans in NYC, In California, Jason was fighting at the Titan Base.
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I do understand what you mean but Percy can control which water touches him and has complete control which means the water will not touch him and merely surround him and bend the water back to Jason which still can get hurt by his own attacks.I do know that Jason was fighting the titans base but With a huge army and merely killed 1 titan while Percy killed The father of zeus hades and posiedon which is Kronos
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Your second argument was about planes. Jason does not need a plane to fly, he can fly without a plane. Percy, however, only flew on a plane once, with the master bolt. Zeus wouldn't destroy him because he had the master bolt. At the end of the book, Zeus said to Percy to never fly on a plane again. Poseiden does not have power over Zeus.
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I do know that Jason can fly but you said that not me Percy flew on a plane twice once in the lightning theif issue and on the son of neptune issue which means even if Posiedon does not have control over zeus Zeus is smart enough and has enough mercy to not start a war and let his brothers son use planes
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Percy being in more books doesn't mean that he has more experience. Instead, more people know about him. While Percy was on missions or training, Jason was doing the same in the Roman Camp.
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Percy still had more experience having this feats
BEATING KRONOS
KILLING 2 GIANTS
BEATING ARES,HADES,TITAN HYPERIUM in combat shows more skill than jason
BEING ABLE TO LIFT THE SKY(ATLAS CURSE) FOR SOME TIME SHOWS MUCH MUCH MORE TALENT THAN JASON
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THANK YOU
VOTE PRO



WesternGuy2

Con

Good Luck!!

I believe I win the debate and here is why

First off, there were no books on Jason, so one cannot know how many gods or titans he defeated.

Second, OK, i consent that Percy rode a plane twice, but Zeus had other matters at hand, and did not have time to smash Percy out of the sky.

Third, Again, Jason could have been doing many feats. We have no idea what he was doing as there are no books on him.
Also, Didn't Jason Fight Midas and a bunch more giants in the Lost Hero?

Lastly, Since we are argueing that Jason's dad can kill Percy, one MUST vote for the Con side for today's debate

Thanks you
Debate Round No. 3
DebateBehemoth

Pro

GOOD LUCK TO YOU SIR
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I believe I win the debate and here is why
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I do not agree with this and here is why
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First off, there were no books on Jason, so one cannot know how many gods or titans he defeated
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Actually one can know why because Rick Riordan states such facts in the latest of his books it is one of the reasons we do know that he fought 1 titan Plus The Camp Jupiter only encountered Gods twice in Reyna's words(leader of camp jupiter)
and at that time Jason was still in Camp Jupiter which means all he did was train and attack the Titan Base the 2 encounters they had with Gods are with Mars and Juno in which both where not to battle them and simply tell them what to do which exactly shows his feats and if had so much feats of defeating Gods and Titans it will have been said in the book
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Second, OK, i consent that Percy rode a plane twice, but Zeus had other matters at hand, and did not have time to smash Percy out of the sky.
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I beleive he did not have matters they are gods that can talk to there children what more simply shoot somebody flying without even knowing they have this capabiltiy he can simply think of lightning or be angry and it will be enough to hit Percy
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Third, Again, Jason could have been doing many feats. We have no idea what he was doing as there are no books on him. Also, Didn't Jason Fight Midas and a bunch more giants in the Lost Hero?
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Exactly how will you know plus if he did do many of feats it would have been shown in his fighting ability and power
I do remember him fighting midas but he only killed 1 Giant with the help of Juno JUNO (HERA) THE WIFE OF ZEUS WHICH IS VERY POWERFUL
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Lastly, Since we are argueing that Jason's dad can kill Percy, one MUST vote for the Con side for today's debate
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Your the one arguing that plus Posiedon can kill Jason to a The Gods no matter how unmerciful they are have respect for there brothers plus its a percy vs jason fight now father son vs father son fight so your argument is invalid and dont Vote for Con Vote for PRO FOR TODAY'S DEBATE
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I thank you for posting such facts but Percy will win this one
WesternGuy2

Con

Good Luck!!

You say first that we know that Jason only saw two gods.
As there are no books on him, we must give him the benefit of the doubt as he is a good fighter.

You say that Zeus was not busy, but if you had read the Lost Hero and the Son of Neptune, All the Gods were busy on Gaea and had no time to shoot Percy out of the sky. As you can see, he is still alive...

You said it would have shown in his fighting ability, (his feats)
But, then why do I remember him fighting bunches of giants and holding off a hige giant while piper and Leo got Hera out of the cage?

You say that Poseiden
Then why is Percy scared of flying on planes but Jason is not scared of water?

For all these reasaons, Jason (con) will win this debate against Percy (pro)
Debate Round No. 4
DebateBehemoth

Pro


Refuting again
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You say first that we know that Jason only saw two gods.
As there are no books on him, we must give him the benefit of the doubt as he is a good fighter.
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I sated that Reyna the camps leader herself has said that this is the first time Gods have faced them personally which means Jason has no proof that he ahs fought Gods plus you exactly provve the point there are not enough books so you cannot prove that he is a better fighter than Percy but yes he is a good fighter plus Rick Riordan describes the characters abilities and shows them in the book so though there are not many books Rick Riordan would have shown what he is capable of since he fought a giant a titan and a Midas that can turn things into Gold the only challenge there is the giant while Percy beat 2 Giants The leader of the Titans beat his own brother that had control on earth beat Hades Helped beat typhoon the King of monsters
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You say that Zeus was not busy, but if you had read the Lost Hero and the Son of Neptune, All the Gods were busy on Gaea and had no time to shoot Percy out of the sky. As you can see, he is still alive...
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Again you are wrong Juno still had lots of time to let Percy send her into camp jupiter while carrying her Mars still had time to tell camp jupiter lots of things he was able to talk to his son Poseidon still had a little conversation with percy which clearly prove Zeus could have but didnt because The greek Gods still had respect for their brothers plus in the percy jackson series Gods although busy can see who are in there domain or who is near their throne like an moment when Percy sat on Poseidon's throne Poseidon was about to blast him but did noteven though he was fighting A titan under the sea so Zeus could have blasted him
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You said it would have shown in his fighting ability, (his feats)
But, then why do I remember him fighting bunches of giants and holding off a hige giant while piper and Leo got Hera out of the cage?
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A giant is the Son of gaea with tartarus they are extremely strong and the only way to kill them is to have a demi god and a god working together the other giants are cyclopes if that is what your saying this to happened to Percy they foguht cyclopes he himself killed thousands of ressurecting Ghosts plus this happened once and that adds to his fighting abilities yes but Percy exceeds this
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You say that Poseiden
Then why is Percy scared of flying on planes but Jason is not scared of water?
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Have you not seen the gods personalities Zeus does not like any one of his brothers children to be in his domain without his permission while Poseidon is Kinds hearted but he still has the ability to Kil anyone he pleases Zeus is just to proud of himself to show any sign of weakness being King of the Gods and all
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For all these reasaons, Jason (con) will win this debate against Percy (pro)
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I would like to put more of my reasons so just wait do not get into a fuss about winning yet since Percy ahs showed more ability and talent than Jason has
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Hephaustus himself says this line
Not that powerful, eh? Could have fooled me. You're the son of the Earth-shaker, lad. You don't know your own strength.

–Hephaestus, to Percy Jackson about his power in The Battle of the Labyrinth

So how would Jason land if Percy can send water shots and tidal wives high enough to reach Jason unless he is in space which he has not ability of breathing
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The feats that Jason did not seem to be able to do in another form
Fighting Skills: Percy is a natural and expert swordsman, capable of holding his own against larger, more experienced, and more powerful opponents, including gods and Titans. In The Son of Neptune, even after losing the Curse of Achilles, he is still shown to be able to fend off an entire army of continually resurrecting ghosts by himself while still protecting Frank. His Greek training and unpredictable, solo fighting style make him particularly dangerous to the demigods of Camp Jupiter, who are used to fighting as a group, allowing him to easily defeat multiple opponents at a time.
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This shows his abilities that far exceeds Jason
Demigod Abilities

As a son of Poseidon; one of the Big Three, Percy is more powerful than the children of minor gods. He has a degree of divine authority over his father's domains and subjects. Hazel had considered Nico di Angelo the most powerful demigod she knew, until she met Percy, and believed that Percy's power might rival Nico and Jason Grace's powers. Both through his father's authority or his inherent power, Percy's abilities include:

Water-Induced Abilities: When in contact with or in the presence of water, Percy gains a disproportionate amount of superhuman clarity, strength, speed, agility, and endurance equaling a god and he has shown to be more powerful than Ares while in this state. However, this only lasts for a limited amount of time unless he is completely submerged in water. He also heals himself from any wound and most poisons when he comes into contact with water, the amount of water and time needed for the healing being proportionate to the severity of the wound.

Hydrokinesis: With the power of the sea within him, Percy can control every form and great volumes of water, being even able to summon and heal his wounds and cure himself of most poisons with it. Percy can control water almost omnipotently. He can control it in order to make it explode, or use it to grab something. His hydrokinesis abilities include:

  • General Hydrokinesis: He can create water from petrified seashells,as well as being able to create water with his own energy and summoning the "force of the ocean" to his will, as long as he concentrates hard enough. He can also harden water into an almost solid shape.
  • Superhuman Strength: Percy's strength increases greatly to the point where he was able to hold the sky, (which is The Curse of Atlas), on his shoulders.
  • Healing Factor: He can heal most wounds and cure most poisons when in contact with water.
  • Water Propulsion: He can control the water around him to propel himself through water. Percy can shoot water, not only from being in water, but he can blast the own water he creates.
  • Waterbreathing: Percy can breathe underwater and diffuse the oxygen in the water to create oxygen bubbles that allow his non-hydrokinetic friends to breathe underwater.
  • Water Immunity: Percy can fall from great heights into water, and is unaffected by any amount of water pressure. He does not get wet if submerged in water, unless he wants to. Percy can temporarily dry items underwater, such as a lighter.
  • Water Solidification: Percy can harden water into an almost solid shape. He can use this power to walk on water, by increasing the surface tension of the water to the point where it is solid enough for him to stand on, and water constructs. So far, he has demonstrated creating a strong water shield, and on two instances inThe Son of Neptune, he hardened the water into giant hands that followed and imitated the movements of his own hands. In the movie, he also formed a trident made of hardened water.

Aerokinesis: Percy can summon hurricanes and other types of storms, but the extent to which he can control them is as of yet unknown. By the events of The Son of Neptune he is able to sustain the storm with less effort than his first use of the skill against the Titan Hyperion, although it still drains him over time.

Geokinesis: Percy can generate earthquakes and (consequently) cause volcanic eruptions, but his control of this technique is less than that of a child of Hades.

Cryokinesis: Percy can use cryokinesis to a small degree. He is able to use the ice and snow around him to make an icy hurricane, as he does during the battle in Alaska in The Son Of Neptune. He can also manipulate frozen or icy water around him, demonstrated during his interrupted fight with Thalia in The Titan's Curse.This will blind Jason

Since there is little space left for me to post some of his other abilities I will just post them on the next round
for this reasons VOTE PRO(PERCY)

WesternGuy2

Con

This paragraph will attack all the arguments my opponent threw at me and show how Jason (con) wins against Percy (pro)
Reyna said gods visited the CAMP, she didn't say if a god visited Jason on a mission. and again, how do you know if Jason fought anyone before going to the Greek Camp? Juno was there to guide Percy to the Roman Camp and Mars was there to tell the camp an imporant message. Poseiden talking to Percy was important. All these are important. I know, he could have blasted him, but didn't because he is his favorite son. Zeus hates Percy since the first book. Jason helped Hera kill the Giant. This overpowers fighting some ghosts on his terrain. Posieden has nothing against Jason, but Zeus does have something against Percy, so I win that argument. In that same book, Hephaestus said that Percy couldn't control his power so that quote is counter intutuive. Percy would never fight Jason as they are friends. By the way, Jason is also a son of the Big Three. Hazel never said anything about Jason's powers in the Son of Neptune. Most of the powers the you state is currently there in a son of Posieden, but Jason has powers too! He can fly (Lost Hero caught Piper and Leo in the air), has inhumane strength, (Lost hero, caught the dragon), Call for lightning (Lost Hero against Midas) and Call for wind (Lost Hero near the wind palace). He can use his lightning to hit Percy and melt his snow and electrocute his water powers.

For all these reasons, please vote Con (jason)

Thank you for a great debate and I hope we could debate some other time!!!
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by DebateBehemoth 2 years ago
DebateBehemoth
Yeaaaaaaa
Posted by WesternGuy2 2 years ago
WesternGuy2
Great debate!!!
Posted by DebateBehemoth 2 years ago
DebateBehemoth
Since their will be no more next round I will not post them anymore
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