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VampyIceMan
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Emily77
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Perfection is Subjective: The VampyIceMan Strikes Back

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Emily77
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/10/2013 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 438 times Debate No: 40283
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VampyIceMan

Pro

Regarding our last debate, I think we failed to clarify some things. Your mission, if you choose to accept it, will be to mention what you failed to do the last debate (what we could have done better, not what arguments we could have made)in the first round. Three rounds of continual debate will follow, with a summary of the last two debates. I hope that this will be better that the last debate. Good luck. This message will self destruct.
Emily77

Con

I hope this does turn into a much more in-depth debate, and let us bring out our inner Socrates!

Parameters of the Debate
The onus of this debate are, as I see them with regards to the last debate, as follows:

Pro:
  • To prove the SUBJECTIVITY of the term 'Perfection'.
  • To prove that SUBJECTIVITY and OBJECTIVITY with regards to 'Perfection' are mututally exclusive.
Con:

  • To prove the OBJECTIVITY of the term 'Perfection'.
  • To prove that OBJECTIVITY and SUBJECTIVITY with regards to 'Perfection' are mututally exclusive.
  • To clearly define the two terms 'Perfection' and 'Flaw'.

Issues to Correct from the Previous Debate:

Pro (VampyIceMan):
  • To address the contradictory ideas of a 'total absence of flaws' and 'Perfection' being qualitative (good, better, worse).
  • To elucidate your own arguments as to not simply why it is not OBJECTIVE, why 'Perfection' is only SUBJECTIVE
Con (Emily77):
  • To explain how an entity with apparent flaws can be deemed 'Perfect'
  • To define 'Imperfection' as well as 'Perfection' and 'Flaw'
  • To show that 'Imperfection' and 'Perfection' are mututally exclusive

Definitions:
I have listed here what I believe the two definitions gathered from the previous debate are. I believe that we both agreed on these terms, however if you feel that they are inadequate, feel free to redefine what you believe to be the proper definitions and why below. Otherwise, please clearly state your acceptance of these terms before you begin your arguments.

Perfection: The total absence of flaws.
Flaw: A defective component to an entity that renders it incapable of successfully fulfilling a task for which it was intended.
Debate Round No. 1
VampyIceMan

Pro

VampyIceMan forfeited this round.
Emily77

Con

Hrm. Where did you go?

You seemed pretty excited to debate this that you created a part II. Hopefully this was just a miscalculation on your timetable and you will post something in the next round.

Cheers!
Debate Round No. 2
VampyIceMan

Pro

VampyIceMan forfeited this round.
Emily77

Con

Emily77 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
VampyIceMan

Pro

VampyIceMan forfeited this round.
Emily77

Con

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Debate Round No. 4
VampyIceMan

Pro

VampyIceMan forfeited this round.
Emily77

Con

Emily77 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Vote Placed by kbub 3 years ago
kbub
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